Two Dems who support police reform carjacked less than 24 hours apart

[Dr. Evil]

Two Dems who support police reform carjacked less than 24 hours apart

Illinois state Sen. Kimberly Lightford was targeted in suburban Chicago Tuesday night, while Congresswoman Mary Gay Scanlon was carjacked Wednesday afternoon after an event in South Philadelphia.

nypost.com

Karma, poetic justice...

 

[Acer-m14]

WHERE WAS THERE GUN SECURITY TEAM LMAO ..

 

[GOYABEAN]

Karma you reap what you sow

 

[Deplorable Me]

https://nygunforum.com/threads/philadelphia-congresswoman-carjacked.48728/#post-1017863

 

[Saltwater60]

It’s Jesse Smolette to get the body guards. It won’t be about the carjackings, but about Jan 6th.

 

[Grimscale]

It’s Jesse Smolette to get the body guards. It won’t be about the carjackings, but about Jan 6th.

Possibly.

But, in the mean time, I'm going to take perverse satisfaction in knowing these sleezeballs got to experience what they claim doesn't happen.

BTW - How quick was the police response when they called 911?

 

[DoOver]

So the dazzling urbanite whom carjacked the defund the police Democrat in South Philly is facing Federal charges.

Derp, derp.

 

[SonOfSun]

Would not reforming the police have stopped the car jacking? I'm not seeing how their stance police reform and if they would have been car jacked are connected.

 

[DoOver]

Would not reforming the police have stopped the car jacking? I'm not seeing how their stance police reform and if they would have been car jacked are connected.

Why do youse feel youse need to inform us of what we already know?

 

[SonOfSun]

Why do youse feel youse need to inform us of what we already know?

Because people seem to think its great that someone was car jacked based on a political stance... when that stance has nothing to do if those car jackings would have happened or not. If that's all it is then might as just well broaden the post to: "let's all post about bad things happening to people we don't like". Also, if this is the political discussion section, it's reasonable to question it on its political merits.

 

[DoOver]

Because people seem to think its great that someone was car jacked based on a political stance... when that stance has nothing to do if those carjackings would have happened or not. If that's all it is then might as just well broaden the post to: "let's all post about bad things happening to people we don't like".

The 1996 "Super Predator Law" as Killiar coined it, co-wriiten by Jim Crow Robinette JoePedo aimed squarely at Blacks, wouldn't be, in your learned opinion, political now either?

 

[SonOfSun]

The 1996 "Super Predator Law" as Killiar coined it, co-wriiten by Jim Crow Robinette JoePedo aimed squarely at Blacks, wouldn't be, in your learned opinion, political now either?

And that has what to do with; "Two Dems who support police reform carjacked less than 24 hours apart" ?

 

[DoOver]

Because people seem to think its great that someone was car jacked based on a political stance... when that stance has nothing to do if those car jackings would have happened or not. If that's all it is then might as just well broaden the post to: "let's all post about bad things happening to people we don't like". Also, if this is the political discussion section, it's reasonable to question it on its political merits.

And that has what to do with; "Two Dems who support police reform carjacked less than 24 hours apart" ?

Obtuse, much Sunny boy/girl?

 

[spat]

Because people seem to think its great that someone was car jacked based on a political stance... when that stance has nothing to do if those car jackings would have happened or not. If that's all it is then might as just well broaden the post to: "let's all post about bad things happening to people we don't like". Also, if this is the political discussion section, it's reasonable to question it on its political merits.

The reforms she supports are driving a major increase in the type of crime she fell victim to.

If you don't see how a bit of schadenfreude is warranted there, I'm not sure what to say.

This is a sort of "told ya so" kinda thing.

 

[IrishMick]

Apparently Lightford is a big anti gun advocate as well as police defunder. Funny that her husband defended them with his concealed handgun (which he has a permit to own and carry). Rule for thee but not for me! All these "common sense gun law" people should be forced to be disarmed and their families as well. No public/private armed security. If guns are so bad then they shouldn't be allowed to be protected by guns.

 

[DoOver]

 

[Celt]

Is the "police reform" they seek related to "defunding" the police? If so then HA FUCKING HA!

Now, defunding as in taking cops off the street, providing less training, etc. are all recipes for more violent crime, along with bail reform and decriminalizing certain crimes. And no one should be surprised when they get more crime. Just look at the crime waves in major cities, of course this would happen.

I think we do need police reform, less militaristic, more accountability, less abuse. This has nothing to do with BLM or anyone, it has to do with being a concerned citizen that could easily become a victim of the system, especially under leftist totalitarian control.

 

[SonOfSun]

Is the "police reform" they seek related to "defunding" the police? If so then HA FUCKING HA!

Now, defunding as in taking cops off the street, providing less training, etc. are all recipes for more violent crime, along with bail reform and decriminalizing certain crimes. And no one should be surprised when they get more crime. Just look at the crime waves in major cities, of course this would happen.

I think we do need police reform, less militaristic, more accountability, less abuse. This has nothing to do with BLM or anyone, it has to do with being a concerned citizen that could easily become a victim of the system, especially under leftist totalitarian control.

From the article in the OP;

Both Scanlon and Lightford have previously spoken out about police reform — especially in the wake of George Floyd’s death in Minneapolis last year. They both co-sponsored bills in their respective offices that called for mental health specialists to be dispatched instead of police to some incidents.

Doesn't seem like blatant fuck the police style hate. Seems like it's more targeted to domestic situations then letting car jackers back on the street with no bail or bond.

 

[Justincase]

From the article in the OP;

Both Scanlon and Lightford have previously spoken out about police reform — especially in the wake of George Floyd’s death in Minneapolis last year. They both co-sponsored bills in their respective offices that called for mental health specialists to be dispatched instead of police to some incidents.

Doesn't seem like blatant fuck the police style hate. Seems like it's more targeted to domestic situations then letting car jackers back on the street with no bail or bond.

If they’re on board with one of the new ideas on policing they’re on board with all of them. That’s how most politicians roll these days.

 

[dwa12479]

Police "reform" is just a lighter way to say "defund". Which leads to higher crime rates, as we've all seen. I don't feel bad for these 2 at all.

 

[SonOfSun]

Police "reform" is just a lighter way to say "defund". Which leads to higher crime rates, as we've all seen. I don't feel bad for these 2 at all.

No. I'm for police reform. For example I think no knock raids for situations that are not life and death needed to end, yesterday. You don't need to no knock bust someones door down at 1 am because you think they have a bag of weed. Police reform is definitely in order. Shit like this happens because of overzealous police no knock raids:

Death of Maryland man shows continued out-of-control nature of SWAT, no-knock raids

When police officers shattered his window and used a battering ram to enter his home, Duncan Lemp's worst fears had come true.

www.usatoday.com

I'm not for defunding or getting rid of the police, but some of the shit they do needs to be reigned in with a heavy hand.

 

[Deplorable Me]

Apparently Lightford is a big anti gun advocate as well as police defunder. Funny that her husband defended them with his concealed handgun (which he has a permit to own and carry). Rule for thee but not for me! All these "common sense gun law" people should be forced to be disarmed and their families as well. No public/private armed security. If guns are so bad then they shouldn't be allowed to be protected by guns.

Defended? Or negligent discharge? He didn't hit shit. Apparently she's not a believer in women's equality either, else she'd of provided cross fire.

Redirect Notice

 

[dwa12479]

No. I'm for police reform. For example I think no knock raids for situations that are not life and death needed to end, yesterday. You don't need to no knock bust someones door down at 1 am because you think they have a bag of weed. Police reform is definitely in order. Shit like this happens because of overzealous police no knock raids:

Death of Maryland man shows continued out-of-control nature of SWAT, no-knock raids

When police officers shattered his window and used a battering ram to enter his home, Duncan Lemp's worst fears had come true.

www.usatoday.com

I'm not for defunding or getting rid of the police, but some of the shit they do needs to be reigned in with a heavy hand.

I agree with actual positive reform as we'll. The left lumps it all together though. Like when they say "common sense guns laws."

 

[DoOver]

No. I'm for police reform. For example I think no knock raids for situations that are not life and death needed to end, yesterday. You don't need to no knock bust someones door down at 1 am because you think they have a bag of weed. Police reform is definitely in order. Shit like this happens because of overzealous police no knock raids:

Death of Maryland man shows continued out-of-control nature of SWAT, no-knock raids

When police officers shattered his window and used a battering ram to enter his home, Duncan Lemp's worst fears had come true.

www.usatoday.com

I'm not for defunding or getting rid of the police, but some of the shit they do needs to be reigned in with a heavy hand.

"Police" are a political enforcement arm of whichever political party is in power at the time.

 

[Cooolone]

I don't give a shit for any bleeding heart politician that believes they need to legislate every aspect of how people live and that they/others should live by permission and who have attacked the normal order of things in lending to the appearance that societal problems can be attributed to the application of law and order, in a slighted diversity balance BS perspective making that, rather than how miscreants and criminals are the problem, being the problem! How the prisons are slighted to a particular demographic but forgetting that they were convicted by a jury of their peers. Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot, the entire U.S. populace is racist, that's right... So let's reform police, but ignore those in society who break the law, let's give them a pass, let's let them roam the streets while awaiting returning to court to face their demise... Like they're going to show up! Yeah... Wait for that!

It's the natural order of things... that KARMA came and kicked them in the ass because I can assure you, the first thing they were thinking of when the situation occured is, "I wish I had a cop right here, right now!"

LMFAO!
Fuck em'

You definitely Reap what you Sow!

Fuck them!

 

[spat]

No. I'm for police reform. For example I think no knock raids for situations that are not life and death needed to end, yesterday. You don't need to no knock bust someones door down at 1 am because you think they have a bag of weed. Police reform is definitely in order. Shit like this happens because of overzealous police no knock raids:

Death of Maryland man shows continued out-of-control nature of SWAT, no-knock raids

When police officers shattered his window and used a battering ram to enter his home, Duncan Lemp's worst fears had come true.

www.usatoday.com

I'm not for defunding or getting rid of the police, but some of the shit they do needs to be reigned in with a heavy hand.

There is a lot that needs to change in how we police society.

Most of that reform needs to come from the legislatures that made the problems.

Asking police to enforce bad laws leads to bad things. No amount of change in the police will fix the root problem, which is bad laws.

The problem is that government *wants* the problems. That is where their power comes from.

People aren't willing to give up their freedom (and tax dollars) when everything is running well.

So, governments make problems just so they can offer solutions.


The biggest change that could be made that would improve policing would be to keep the actual bad guys locked up. If police didn't deal with as many real bad guys, they would lose the tendency to treat innocent people like they are.

 

[Shoots100]

The problem is that government *wants* the problems. That is where their power comes from.

People aren't willing to give up their freedom (and tax dollars) when everything is running well.

So, governments make problems just so they can offer solutions.

Without problems to divert the publics attention, the seedy Politicians wouldn't be able to get away with the crimes their committing !

 

[tc556guy]

Would not reforming the police have stopped the car jacking? I'm not seeing how their stance police reform and if they would have been car jacked are connected.

Reforming the police is not just about defunding the police, it's about letting the recidivist criminal element free to roam the streets. The carjackers in one or both of these incidents MIGHT have stayed locked up in jail and would not have been free to carjack anyone, under the old protocols.

 

[tc556guy]

No. I'm for police reform. For example I think no knock raids for situations that are not life and death needed to end, yesterday. You don't need to no knock bust someones door down at 1 am because you think they have a bag of weed. Police reform is definitely in order. Shit like this happens because of overzealous police no knock raids:

No Knocks dont happen because "someone has a bag of weed;" they happen because there is an element of danger indicated with that particular arrest which is deemed to warrant that level of interaction with the suspect

 

[SonOfSun]

Reforming the police is not just about defunding the police, it's about letting the recidivist criminal element free to roam the streets. The carjackers in one or both of these incidents MIGHT have stayed locked up in jail and would not have been free to carjack anyone, under the old protocols.

That's not the police. That's the criminal court system.

The police enforce the laws that are there. The courts decide the punishment. The courts are too lenient. The police aren't letting them out, the courts are.