spat
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"My body my choice" is a very strong argument.
I would say strong enough to override any other rational.
But the catch is that in an abortion there is more than one body involved.
Supposedly the Supreme Court will over turn roe v wade
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I would say strong enough to override any other rational.
But the catch is that in an abortion there is more than one body involved.
spat
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I think there shouldn't be any laws about abortion.
There should just be a legal definition for when "personhood" starts. I don't think conception or birth are reasonable places to make that distinction.
Once that line is drawn, the circumstances that led to the pregnancy are irrelevant.
spat
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Good news for the babies though.
Steal2B
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Well there is always the old school option now that they are available in woke liberal rainbow colors
Then take it out. If it lives it lives. If it dies it dies. A fetus meets the definition of a parasite. A human de-worming per se.
par·a·site
1.an organism that lives in or on an organism and benefits by deriving nutrients at the other's expense.
It's ridiculous to center the argument on the actual "abortion" part of it, when the ruling, if it does come down as leaked, has nothing to do with the "abortion" aspect but the fact that the Federal Gov't does not supercede a State Sovereignty, and the will of its voters. Let the people decide how they will live. It's unfortunate, but is the contemporary way, that those who defiantly support the overly heavy Federal Gov't are almost all from population dense municipalities that coincidentally are also heavily progressive liberal agenda voters.
So California in concert with a few other population heavy states should not have power over a Wyoming for example. Let each state decide. The freedom to travel will dictate that those who don't fit in, will migrate to where they do. Contemporary liberalism has to accept that there are actually people who don't believe the govt should have sway over every single thing we do. And this affirms that...
Waiting for all the liberals who will process they're tired of it all and can no longer stand this country and plan to leave! Same snowflakes who proclaimed that in 2016 of Trump won! Well... I don't remember any actually leaving.
So California in concert with a few other population heavy states should not have power over a Wyoming for example. Let each state decide. The freedom to travel will dictate that those who don't fit in, will migrate to where they do. Contemporary liberalism has to accept that there are actually people who don't believe the govt should have sway over every single thing we do. And this affirms that...
Waiting for all the liberals who will process they're tired of it all and can no longer stand this country and plan to leave! Same snowflakes who proclaimed that in 2016 of Trump won! Well... I don't remember any actually leaving.
kev74
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Even clothes hangers are gay now!
DoOver
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Steal2B
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Came out of the closet?
DoOver
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More than half of the states will allow the killings of babies.
DoOver
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Yet only 26 States allow Constitutional Carry.
If only babies could CC.
If only babies could CC.
And all 12 year olds have the ability for interstate travel....
Hey 12 year old Chloe....
Meet your rape pregnancy daddy, it was probably hard to see him as he blackened your eyes while raping you.
Dr. Evil
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The left needs to blame themselves although they would never would dream of doing such. This subject has morphed into infanticide where they have no issue killing fully developed humans and even go as far as allowing it post birth. They can never just leave well enough alone. They keep further pushing and pushing their ideology on others. This is represented in many parts of society. Sick fucking individuals they are.
Saltwater60
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So
so so many democrats, can we do the same?
DoOver
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DoOver
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Steal2B
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You mean like parasitic politicians, or parasitic unemployed libs living in mom's basement, or parasitic illegals getting handouts, or parasitic bureaucrats, or lobbyists, or gender study majors who can't find a job.
spat
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The left is in favor of allowing infanticide.
Not sure the American people are in favor of the Casey Anthony's of the world being allowed to just starve their 6 months old to death though.
As I said before, birth makes no sense for the distinction. If late term abortion is allowed, then why not infanticide ?
livingston
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That argument of My body my choice today has no bearing ... Covid has destroyed that argument. .. I understand that the liberals want it both ways.... Abortion on demand and shots mandatory to enter society ... New world folks .
If you are asking if I'm against welfare. Yes I am against it. That's another topic though. Make a thread on it and I'll post in it.
dwa12479
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Setting the particulars of the case in question aside.... the fact that this leaked ahead of the release of the actual final decision is massive. Heads need to roll and serious jail time levied for those responsible.
And all 12 year olds have the ability for interstate travel....
Hey 12 year old Chloe....
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Meet your rape pregnancy daddy, it was probably hard to see him as he blackened your eyes while raping you.
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Not sure what your point is to this? She is a victim of a horrible crime and she will still be able to have an abortion.
Not sure if you think a picture is going to move me in a way to change my mind on things.
I believe in the US Constitution, everything not spelled out in the Constitution, is a States Rights issue. Period.
No sad, horrific and disgusting stories are going to make me stop believing in the original laws of our land.
I have full control of my emotions and my feelings. In this case, if she and her family do not have the funds to travel, I promise there will be organizations that will be willing to assist. Or, people like you can donate money for her procedure.
Which is why I said take it out. If it lives it lives, if it dies it dies. At a certain point the body is no longer dependant on another to sustain life. If it's not at that point yet, I fail to see how a victim of a rape owes usage of their body and nutrients to another person. They certainly didn't choose it (ie. Rape), and I don't see a logical argument that a victim should be forced into that burden by force of another person. The rape victim doesn't owe anyone anything, including a fetus use of their uterus.
And all 12 year olds have the ability for interstate travel....
Hey 12 year old Chloe....
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Meet your rape pregnancy daddy, it was probably hard to see him as he blackened your eyes while raping you.
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This horrible crime took place in Utah, the elected in that State have already made plans for when Roe V Wade is overturned...
SB174 prohibits abortions in most cases, but it does allow exceptions if the mother’s life is at risk, if the pregnancy was a result of rape or incest, or if two physicians who practice “maternal fetal medicine” both determine that the fetus “has a defect that is uniformly diagnosable and uniformly lethal or ... has a severe brain abnormality that is uniformly diagnosable.”
So, unlike many here on this forum, I have done a bit of research. There is not a single State in the Union that wishes to ban 100% of Abortions. There will be limitations and exceptions for many different types of pregnancies. Rape and incest are two of those exceptions as is the viability of the mother.
Take the emotions out, life is better when you see through clear eyes.
So, that would be the case with all human babies. Once born, a human baby cannot sustain life without someone caring for him/her.
I understand The controversy with the Roe V Wade decision was about the court making a decision which “created a right out of whole cloth.” The courts are not supposed to legislate from the bench. I see this as correcting a mistake from the past. Now it is up to the legislative bodies to make a law stating abortion is illegal. After all isn’t the way this country is supposed to work, “everything is legal unless there is a law saying it is not?” Unlike socialist and communist countries where everything is illegal unless there is a law stating it is not.
To me it is about the right people making law vs the wrong people making the law. Only congress and legislative bodies make law. The executive branch if they agree with it signs it, if not they veto it and it goes back to congress/ legislative bodies to override the veto. Once it becomes law (either way) the executive branch enforces it and the judiciary interprets it in relation to the constitution.
To me it is about the right people making law vs the wrong people making the law. Only congress and legislative bodies make law. The executive branch if they agree with it signs it, if not they veto it and it goes back to congress/ legislative bodies to override the veto. Once it becomes law (either way) the executive branch enforces it and the judiciary interprets it in relation to the constitution.
BerettaGuy
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False Narrative Alert! All they are saying is it is up to the states and is not Federal issue. NY will stilli be able to chop up babies from conception to after giving birth. DONT FALL FOR IT! They are trying to incite insurrection.
Well look at it this way. Maybe the leak was designed to prepare the left to head the decision about the 2A decision coming so their collective heads don’t explode. Lol