Anyone up to speed on pre-charged pneumatic filling systems?

[FP1201]

I have a Benjamin PCP that I'd like to use more, but I don't have a good filling system: I bought an adaptor that screws onto a "paintball" tank (at least that's what I think) has a pressure relief valve and of course the High Pressure coupling that mates to the tip of the Rifle, I also have hand pump, and it does make the pressure (1,500~2,000 psi) but by the time I fill it I'm too tired to shoot!

I see these High pressure Compressors on amazon for $300. but I don't want to spend that much on something I relay don't shoot a lot.

I have a couple medicinal Oxygen Tanks: one Aluminum and one Steel, but the valving doesn't match unless I get a SCUBA tank adaptor, and they're "full" at 1,500 psi.

I've got a Nitrogen, and oxygen tanks and Haun Welding has always been good to me with swapping and updating tanks, but that's overkill, although that's where I'd go to have them refilled.

The Paintball gun tanks are advertised as having an 800psi built-in regulator: if that's the case, using one with the adaptor wouldn't charge the rifle to the optimum range would it?

Link to the Dual Fuel Fill adaptor I have: Benjamin Dual Fuel Fill Adaptor

What would you do?
why?

 

[218bee]

Been shooting PCPs for a long time, and my advice is to go on Ebay, and for $235 shipped, bite the bullet & buy one of the Yong Heng 4500 psi compressors and be done with it. They seem to have most of the bugs worked out of these, and parts are easily gettable. Also there's a bunch of YouTube videos on setup & operation. Fill the gun right from the compressor or get an in-hydro'ed SCBA tank if you plan on shooting away from the compressor. I messed around with O2 and CO2 bottles and adapters, and never got satisfactory results. Also make sure all your new fittings are 4500-psi rated. PCP guns are awesome, but there's no safe, inexpensive way around the refill process, short of the hand pump. For $235 you can then safely fill the Benjamin to 3000 psi quickly & I bet you'd shoot the rifle much more, and get much more enjoyment out of it. Just my .02 cents...

 

[holdover]

See if you can find a used scuba tank on craigslist. I had an airforce condor that I used a scuba tank with , refills were 7 bucks but you got hundreds of shots out of it

 

[ManualF150]

I've got a Hill EC-3000 and a Daystate compressor. Both have desiccant filter dryer systems installed.

Problem with SCBA tanks you need certs on them before 90% of commercial places (dive shops) will fill them. Also sometimes they don't fill them to 4500 psi.

As what was previously said, if on a budget, go with a Yong Heng and a hydro'ed SCBA tank with the right fittings.

Also, make sure the tank you buy is not only up to spec on it's hydro, but also designed for HPA!

 

[spat]

Don't have one, but if I did I would get one of these for sure.

$289 from Amazon.


YONG HENG PCP Air Compressor, Auto-Shut Off 4500 PSI Air Compressor, High Pressure Air Compressor Pump Set-Pressure Air Gun and Paintball Tank Pump with Water/Oil Separator,Built-in Power Adapter https://a.co/hwVB3eP

 

[FP1201]

Don't have one, but if I did I would get one of these for sure.

$289 from Amazon.


YONG HENG PCP Air Compressor, Auto-Shut Off 4500 PSI Air Compressor, High Pressure Air Compressor Pump Set-Pressure Air Gun and Paintball Tank Pump with Water/Oil Separator,Built-in Power Adapter https://a.co/hwVB3eP

I noticed a couple variations on compressors besides the auto shut-off feature: some were cased and most others somewhat exposed.

 

[Acer-m14]

idk .. but the resident Diver here may have some leads on used SCUBA Tanks

@Darth

 

[tgenec86]

I bought a "no name" compressor off Amazon that looked just like the Hatsan Spark. Had the chance to go to a small group shoot where several of the guys there had the Hatsan branded compressor and after close study - I realized they are nearly identical. Only the unbranded Amazon offering is $150-$200 less. I've been using it for two years now, shooting two to three weekend a month and it's been flawless. Currently $240. I'm shooting a .22 Hatsan Flash (wood stock) so nothing exotic, but it's been a great rifle and I've gotten no less than 18 Utica Mafia Squirrels with it. I declared war on squirrels at my home after the destruction they've wrought on my garden and blueberry bushes.
edit: Another option seems to be the VEVOR compressor. Have never seen this one before, but it's selling for the same price as the Amazon pump.

 

[Darth]

Buy an aluminum 80CF SCUBA tank. It will need a visual inspection every year (~$20) and a hyrdo every 5 years (~$70), but the fills should be around $10/fill.

 

[fresch]

Darth, we can buy air without a scuba license? Been a long time since I did any diving ~1970s.

 

[holdover]

Yes.

 

[Mosinitis]

I shoot International Air Pistol and scoped air rifle as cross training for high power rifle. Used SSP's for years. Switched to PCP's few years ago. Bought Hill Pump mk5.
A good aerobic work out 2-3 times a week, I consider a plus. It forces my lazy ass to exercise. If it's too much you can take as many breaks as you want. For me this was a simpler and better option, low maitenance as well.

PS. I refill when needed after I shoot to keep the heart rate down when shooting.

 

[ManualF150]

I'll add, don't go with the Umarex ReadyAir! As neat as it looks, it is a very hit or miss unit and getting parts from Umarex USA is a PITA.

I had the opportunity to test one, and it started giving problems after about 5 hours of use and I had to use the single rebuild kit that came with it. Also, even the manual states about every 20 hours you need to rebuild it. For someone that has large capacity guns (especially big bores), or shoots a lot, that thing will need to rebuilt a lot.

My Daystate has a little over 150 hours and EC-3000 has about 70 hours on it. Other than oil changes, they work fine.

Umarex could've done better if they spent more time on R&D. Even if the product cost a little more.

As far as a gun, take a look at what JTS Airguns has... they seem to be quite popular right now.

 

[dsdmmat]

I bought a 444CF airtank while playing paintball. My team could practice all day before we got down from 4500 to 2800 psi. Local fire department would fill it to 4500 for 10-15 bucks.

 

[Darth]

I bought a 444CF airtank while playing paintball. My team could practice all day before we got down from 4500 to 2800 psi. Local fire department would fill it to 4500 for 10-15 bucks.

That's a huge tank though.

 

[spat]

That's a huge tank though.

Not if you're carrying it in a pickup truck instead of on your back

Should be about this size...

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[dsdmmat]

That's a huge tank though.

10 people using HP air at 68cu drains scuba tanks quickly

 

[Darth]

Not if you're carrying it in a pickup truck instead of on your back

Should be about this size...

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We use them as bank cylinders for our fill system.

 

[Jsmegs77]

Looking to invest in a few large caliber PCP rifles myself, currently eyeing the Airforce Texans. For my money, I’m getting a compressor… every other option seems to involve too much time and/or waiting on other people (filling scuba tanks). Time is money and by the time I’ve hand pumped a bunch of refills or gotten a scuba cylinder and a few refills, I’m coming within range of a compressor anyway. We shoot a LOT of recreational air guns, nothing competitive but I have 4 kids who absolutely love to shoot and air is the only way I can afford to match their appetite.

 

[CNYJohn]

Any of you near herkimer county?
I can part with either a steel or aluminum scuba tank I have.
Get them filled at my buds paintball field in Whitesboro
Out of hydro by years. Very good condition
Price negotiable

 

[ManualF150]

Go with the AirForce airguns. They are simple to work on and repair. Also made in the USA.

Captain O-Ring is a great place to source o-rings.

Also, check out Airgun Forum | GTA International Airgun Forum | 17,332+ Members -- A bunch of Upstate NY people on that forum.

Unfortunately, it's a bottomless pit just like regular firearms...

 

[Darth]

Any of you near herkimer county?
I can part with either a steel or aluminum scuba tank I have.
Get them filled at my buds paintball field in Whitesboro
Out of hydro by years. Very good condition
Price negotiable

What size steels you got?

 

[holdover]

Go with the AirForce airguns. They are simple to work on and repair. Also made in the USA.

Captain O-Ring is a great place to source o-rings.

Also, check out Airgun Forum | GTA International Airgun Forum | 17,332+ Members -- A bunch of Upstate NY people on that forum.

Unfortunately, it's a bottomless pit just like regular firearms...

They come stock with Lothar Walter match grade barrel . They are dead nuts accurate 100 yards + and you can get legal silencers for them from Talon tunes. and they are cheap as hell to shoot once you get past the expenses of buying it they come in 177 up to 308. no shit.

 

[CNYJohn]

What size steels you got?

I think its an 80 cu ft
i could include a filling station that quicks connect to the standard fill nipple found on paintball hpa tanks

 

[alistair]

I just use a hand pump.

 

[alistair]

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This gun and pump is a great buy.

 

[ManualF150]

They come stock with Lothar Walter match grade barrel . They are dead nuts accurate 100 yards + and you can get legal silencers for them from Talon tunes. and they are cheap as hell to shoot once you get past the expenses of buying it they come in 177 up to 308. no shit.

I really wish the DEC would allow 50cal airgun deer hunting... so many other states allow for it.

 

[Darth]

I think its an 80 cu ft
i could include a filling station that quicks connect to the standard fill nipple found on paintball hpa tanks

Don't need it. I'm interested in it for diving. HP80s are nice. When was the last hydro?

 

[Acer-m14]

bump

how about this tank ... fittings and adapters not included .... LOL ..

 

[Jsmegs77]

They come stock with Lothar Walter match grade barrel . They are dead nuts accurate 100 yards + and you can get legal silencers for them from Talon tunes. and they are cheap as hell to shoot once you get past the expenses of buying it they come in 177 up to 308. no shit.

The specs sold me, and the range of available calibers. I’m definitely snagging a .22 and a .50, because why not? Found bullet molds to suit as well so can scrounge wheel weights and cast my own.

I’m not so concerned about shooting deer with it, that’s my son’s job and he likes granddad’s 6.5 CM, but I’m sure it could do the job as well as a equivalent caliber muzzle loader.