Decent gun safe

[Automan21]

Hope this is the right section to post this in.
Im in the process of getting a safe. Something for long guns and handguns. My budget would be around $600 being that I don't have much space to put it. Definitely will bolt it down and has to be fire rated. Any suggestions guys? I have looked into the Stack-on Stack-On | Products | 24 Gun Safe with Combination Lock

 

[meketrefe]

I cannot tell you about stack on or centurion. Will probably get your guns locked but not sure about actual protection.
I think it is worrisome when they do not tell you the gauge of the steel they use. The thickness of the door or sides doesn't mean
much vs. the actual gauge and construction. Some makers make these huge doors but the actual metal is very little. Fire panels
can add weight but they do not add strength.
11 Myths about Gun Safe Theft Protection - Gun Safe Reviews Guy

Check some of the Liberty or Champion. You might be able to get one for $600-$800 that gives you more actual safety.

Cry once.

 

[Automan21]

Thanks

 

[NYGuns]

Hope this is the right section to post this in.
Im in the process of getting a safe. Something for long guns and handguns. My budget would be around $600 being that I don't have much space to put it. Definitely will bolt it down and has to be fire rated. Any suggestions guys? I have looked into the Stack-on Stack-On | Products | 24 Gun Safe with Combination Lock

I have a Stack-On safe. It's decent enough, get's the job done, but I have had issues with the electronic keypad. They sent me a replacement keypad and then the original started working again, so my lazyness has not allowed me to replace it yet. Overall I am happy with the safe and the price was right - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0058DHZHA/

 

[mosquito]

Part of safeguarding your firearms includes:

Alarm system
Cameras
Dog!
Safe: Hidden in a closet or generally "out of sight"!

 

[prambo]

IIRC, there was a thread just after I got here where this subject was discussed, but I can't find it.

 

[Snappo]

I have two of the Winchester, and if the battery runs out you cannot open the safe for about 15-30 minutes. The Browning is your typical dial approach but hard to see (versus the button codes of the Winchester). Winchester uses standard sheetrock with carpet over it - that keeps the fire out for almost an hour I think.

 

[Rocpo]

I have a Stack On in my basement and a Gun Vault in my bedroom closet.

I have had zero problems with either in the 2 years I've owned them. I change out the batteries every 1 Jan, like a smoke detector. Personally I prefer the electronic lock, which for the Stack on came with an "oh shit" key.

 

[Steal2B]

IIRC, there was a thread just after I got here where this subject was discussed, but I can't find it.

Here you go
Gun Safe

 

[Automan21]

Yup there it is. Will be going for the Liberty when financially ready. Thanks guys

 

[ProgSpear]

I have a Liberty FatBoy, but specifically ordered it without the electronic lock, as electronic stuff will ALWAYS fail when you really need it not to. OK, I admit, that glass looked half empty to me... I really like the safe though.

 

[Automan21]

So looking into the Liberty centurion or the revere. Can't go any bigger for now due to space constraints.

 

[Automan21]

Well went with a Centurion 18. Its bolted down and has the tumbler lock. Looking into an led light kit for it. Its 366 pounds but when you remove the door its like half and you can maneuver it easier. Pretty happy with it. Nothing will keep anyones valuables 100% secure but at least this will help.

 

[Automan21]

Thanks for the info. This is what i am looking for before i buy a gun safe

I would say look for the model and brand you want then go onto youtube and check out the reviews and see if they are easy to break into.

 

[fartgamer]

I have 2 Liberty Franklin 35's, both with dial lock, no electronic shit for me. They're 11 ga thick and I have a Safe Alert in each one. Move it, shake it, tinker with it, I get a alert on my cell. Police get called if I'm out of town. Checks for humidity levels in the safes also.

 

[Podmonkey]

I wanna ask the landlord if I can install a deadbolt in the closet door and making it my gun safe. Some extra locking hardware is gonna be a whole helluva lot easier to get up two flights of stairs!

 

[Toecutter]

 

[Toecutter]

I'd say a gang box for tools would be more secure and less expensive then a cheap gun safe. I went through the whole thing looking for a decent safe for cheap . your not gonna find one, building a false wall in a closet may be an option if you have the skills to do so.

 

[Snappo]

Browning is probably a solid bet. Do NOT do Winchester. I have a pair of those and actually had to give one away on CL just to get rid of it. The circuit board is accessible from outside the safe, the battery drains (they have a known issue but won't recall them) in a matter of 2-3 months, and then you can't get in without a new battery and waiting 30 minutes with the new battery plugged in. Better is a Browning with a dial, and screw the touch pads. My Browning with dial is 100x nicer than my 2 Winchesters or my Homac. It is heavier, has a smooth feel to the tumbler dial, and it feels like it would do better in a fire. The cheap Winchesters have thin sheet rock inside with rug stapled to the sheet rock. The Homac feels even cheaper than the Winchester, if that's possible.

 

[spat]

Decide what you want protection from.

Realize that someone who comes prepared to break into a safe will bring whatever tools necessary to do it. A cheap safe will cover you against an opportunistic burglar who just wants to grab some jewerly and electronics.

Someone who brings powertools and prybars are probably planning on breaking into your safe. If you have a heavier duty safe, they will bring heavier duty tools.

 

[freddy]

I went through the whole thing looking for a decent safe for cheap . your not gonna find one,

How true it is.

 

[freddy]

11 Myths about Gun Safe Theft Protection - Gun Safe Reviews Guy

Cry once.

A lot of excellent info on that site.

 

[freddy]

My budget would be around $600 being that I don't have much space to put it. Definitely will bolt it down and has to be fire rated.

Just slap a couple layers of sheet rock on whatever... because that is what the cheap safe makers do. Save your money. In reality, proper fire ratings (UL) really only apply to relatively big dollar gun safes (several grand and up).

 

[Snappo]

Decide what you want protection from.

Realize that someone who comes prepared to break into a safe will bring whatever tools necessary to do it. A cheap safe will cover you against an opportunistic burglar who just wants to grab some jewerly and electronics.

Someone who brings powertools and prybars are probably planning on breaking into your safe. If you have a heavier duty safe, they will bring heavier duty tools.

The best you can hope for is that the thing is too heavy to cart out. The double Browning weighs well over a half ton. But if they want what's inside they are gonna get it. The safes are good for protection against little kids and hot fires. For theft, USAA sells a rider to your homeowners and you get replacements. Someone with a moving dolly and a chainsaw is gonna get that safe no matter what you do (short of 2 foot lag bolts with welded washers sunk into the cement and rebar in the basement. But you lag it to your floor - a chainsaw fixes that almost instantly.

 

[cgrutt]

I keep a small stack-on in my bedroom closet for my EDC/home protection guns. It's decent enough for money. My main goal for this safe was keeping my guns out of my son's and his friend's hands. I have it lag bolted to the back wall and floor. Only complaint with safe is the locking handle seems a little shaky. Afraid one day it will lock shut but not open again, LOL. So far that hasn't happened. I have a better safe downstairs for most of my collection.

 

[Shoots100]

Buy a snap safe.
A little more than you want to spend, but it's a formidable safe that comes in Pc's so you can assemble it in areas of your dwelling that you can't get other safes into.
Fireproof too.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

The best you can hope for is that the thing is too heavy to cart out. The double Browning weighs well over a half ton. But if they want what's inside they are gonna get it. The safes are good for protection against little kids and hot fires. For theft, USAA sells a rider to your homeowners and you get replacements. Someone with a moving dolly and a chainsaw is gonna get that safe no matter what you do (short of 2 foot lag bolts with welded washers sunk into the cement and rebar in the basement. But you lag it to your floor - a chainsaw fixes that almost instantly.

@Snappo I have USAA and I have been wanting to add my guns to my renters insurance but feel weird about giving them serial numbers Etc.. Any thoughts on this? Is it worth it? I know I can ask them, but in your opinion do you think they take privacy regarding guns seriously?

 

[Steal2B]

@Snappo I have USAA and I have been wanting to add my guns to my renters insurance but feel weird about giving them serial numbers Etc.. Any thoughts on this? Is it worth it? I know I can ask them, but in your opinion do you think they take privacy regarding guns seriously?

USAA did not ask for serial numbers for my homeowners rider. Renter insurance may differ. USAA has full time staff addressing security and privacy, you can give them a call. I trust my county sheriff and judges but I would trust USAA more than some NY counties or the state with my serial numbers. It is bad business for a company to screw with customers. Some politicians and beaurocrats, however, may not enthusiastically care as much about your s/n privacy.

 

[Uzi]

All I really need is a angle grinder and I'll get through some of the most expensive gun safes avalible.

 

[freddy]

All I really need is a angle grinder and I'll get through some of the most expensive gun safes avalible.

Yes, but it does it count if your grandkids have to finish the job?