Israel: 'State of war' declared after thousands of rockets fired from Gaza Strip

[tirwin1]

I belive these conditions were conveyed to the US and passed on to Isreal . Which would make sense why the US is attempting to reign in Isreal

Or, it could be the desperate attempt to fend off a civil war within the democratic party heading into an election year.

My guess is the arab nations would be perfectly fine if the Israelis killed most if not all of the palestinians. That is the best outcome for them. First, they won't have to deal with them within their own borders. Second, they get to condemn Israel publicly for years.

 

[holdover]

Or, it could be the desperate attempt to fend off a civil war within the democratic party heading into an election year.

My guess is the arab nations would be perfectly fine if the Israelis killed most if not all of the palestinians. That is the best outcome for them. First, they won't have to deal with them within their own borders. Second, they get to condemn Israel publicly for years.

Thats not what they are saying though. Turkey and Iran have already threatened to jump in on behalf of the Palestinians. But humor me for a minute, and suppose Im right. Isreal would be faceing a regional war it cant win , the US lacks the will or the means to take on mulitple countrys in the mideast which could last for a decade . Israel belives the mideast is bluffing and wont do anything , It would be in the intrest of the US to then reign in Isreal before she kills herself

 

[kev74]

Just sayin'... If they kill all the Palestinians, nobody will be displaced.

They should be careful what they ask for.

 

[livingston]

Would love to see footage of the video feed being blown up during him talking. THAT I would watch. Not watching this subhuman have diarrhea of the mouth.

What this leader says is important. The world says for Israel to hold back and even stop.. .. While at the same time Total war is being spouted against them ... A promised war to continue..

 

[Dr. Evil]

What this leader says is important. The world says for Israel to hold back and even stop.. .. While at the same time Total war is being spouted against them ... A promised war to continue..

Israel is not going to hold back. Screw the world. Israel will never be liked so they need to go for broke with Hamas and destroy them once and for all to the best of their ability.

 

[holdover]

Israel is not going to hold back. Screw the world. Israel will never be liked so they need to go for broke with Hamas and destroy them once and for all to the best of their ability.

That appears to be the case, but If destroying Hamas means the end of Isreal, of what good is it?

The point being , the exsistance of Isreal is at stake .If the US decides it doesn't have the means and the intention to fight a regional war and decides to hold back weapons , Israel is on its own.

 

[tirwin1]

That appears to be the case, but If destroying Hamas means the end of Isreal, of what good is it?

The point being , the exsistance of Isreal is at stake .If the US decides it doesn't have the means and the intention to fight a regional war and decides to hold back weapons , Israel is on its own.

I understand what you are saying. (I don't know why erdogan from Turkey is so hot for the Palestinians but the Iranians have been using them for decades). But if Israel faces defeat then their nukes will fly. I think both erdogan and the mullahs know this. Which makes me think they won't actually go to war with Israel. They'll do everything they can short of actually engaging hostilities. I suspect Hezbollah in the north will be used to hit the Israelis at some point.

 

[holdover]

I understand what you are saying. (I don't know why erdogan from Turkey is so hot for the Palestinians but the Iranians have been using them for decades). But if Israel faces defeat then their nukes will fly. I think both erdogan and the mullahs know this. Which makes me think they won't actually go to war with Israel. They'll do everything they can short of actually engaging hostilities. I suspect Hezbollah in the north will be used to hit the Israelis at some point.

You can keep a good thought, but Pakistan has told Turkey in the past they would give them nuclear weapons , ""To protect themselves"" ie: attack Isreal. Erogon stated in the first video "" Your end is near , Isreal can have all the nuclear weapons it wants, Your on the way out"""

 

[Dr. Evil]

That appears to be the case, but If destroying Hamas means the end of Isreal, of what good is it?

The point being , the exsistance of Isreal is at stake .If the US decides it doesn't have the means and the intention to fight a regional war and decides to hold back weapons , Israel is on its own.

I think many underestimate their will and their fight. Many will find out. I said from day one. Don't mess with them.

 

[tirwin1]

What Arab Nations Are Reportedly Saying to Israel in Private Is Quite Interesting

It feeds into everything that’s been reported about Israel’s Arab neighbors and why they don’t want

townhall.com

Watch the actions of the Arab league.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Those that say Israel should pull back need to listen to this. Yeah, I know I didn't see video of any of the following stories. If that is your position, well, what ever.

 

[kev74]

I think unlike Ukraine, Israel likely has a few contingency plans for continuing to arm its self if Uncle Sam turns off the tap. It likely involves buddying up with Russia and China. Not good.

 

[Dr. Evil]

 

[Dr. Evil]

 

[Dr. Evil]

 

[holdover]

I think many underestimate their will and their fight. Many will find out. I said from day one. Don't mess with them.

Thats a mistake Doc. without question Israel has a state of the art military. well trained . But thats not enough. theres a lot of other factors that come into play here. Its not just about weapons and will. The Ukrainians are learning a hard lesson about weapons right now. the Iron dome didn't go as well as advertised either. The German army got its ass handed to them too.

Thou has chosen war, that will happen which will happen, and only god will know the outcome.- Ghenghis Khan

A quote from no country for old men :

"Even in the contest between man and steer, the issue is not certain."

 

[spat]

Thats not what they are saying though. Turkey and Iran have already threatened to jump in on behalf of the Palestinians. But humor me for a minute, and suppose Im right. Isreal would be faceing a regional war it cant win , the US lacks the will or the means to take on mulitple countrys in the mideast which could last for a decade . Israel belives the mideast is bluffing and wont do anything , It would be in the intrest of the US to then reign in Isreal before she kills herself

Isreal can't rename a bridge without Iran threatening to start a war over it.

They cannot be allowed a hecklers veto over what is by definition an internal Isreali matter.

If Iran and Turkey are so worried about Palestinians, then they should start accepting refugees.

The Isrealis would gladly pay to ship as many as they will take.

Hell, Isreal would probably offer to buy out whatever property the Palestinians who are leaving claim to own. "Here's your $40k and a ticket on a boat, don't let the door hit your ass on the way out".

 

[holdover]

Isreal can't rename a bridge without Iran threatening to start a war over it.

They cannot be allowed a hecklers veto over what is by definition an internal Isreali matter.

If Iran and Turkey are so worried about Palestinians, then they should start accepting refugees.

The Isrealis would gladly pay to ship as many as they will take.

Hell, Isreal would probably offer to buy out whatever property the Palestinians who are leaving claim to own. "Here's your $40k and a ticket on a boat, don't let the door hit your ass on the way out".

Does the motivation really matter? who cares, whos right or wrong in this situation. the thing to do is to avoid a regional conflict costing millions of lives and possibly the destruction of Isreal .

If your in combat, and the enemy opens up on you from the treeline, does it really matter whether your country is right or wrong? who cares? You take cover and return fire. Its about surviving, I believe thats why the US is reigning in Isreal . Not because they side with the Palestinians, BUt because of threat of a regional war which could drag in the US when We are at our weakest point since the early 1900's

 

[holdover]

AMMAN (Reuters) - Jordan said on Tuesday the army had beefed up its presence along its borders with Israel and warned that any Israeli attempt to forcibly push Palestinians across the Jordan River would represent a breach of its peace accord with its neighbour.

Ya really think they sent armored units to stop illegal immigration? They are sending a message.

 

[holdover]

Approximately 1,000 boats will gather in Turkey on Wednesday before heading toward Gaza in an attempt to break the Israeli blockade and disrupt maritime trade coming into Israel during the war with Hamas, in an apparent repeat of similar attempts from over a decade ago.Nov 21, 2023

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Last time they did this 10 Turkish soldiers were killed by Isreali commandos

 

[spat]

Does the motivation really matter? who cares, whos right or wrong in this situation. the thing to do is to avoid a regional conflict costing millions of lives and possibly the destruction of Isreal .

If your in combat, and the enemy opens up on you from the treeline, does it really matter whether your country is right or wrong? who cares? You take cover and return fire. Its about surviving, I believe thats why the US is reigning in Isreal . Not because they side with the Palestinians, BUt because of threat of a regional war which could drag in the US when We are at our weakest point since the early 1900's

Appeasement is never a good idea.

If you allow Iran (or Russia) to affect your internal policy with threats, then they are effectively in charge.

So, either call their bluff, or just turn the whole place over to them.

It's like people have completely forgotten the lessons of WWII.

 

[spat]

Approximately 1,000 boats will gather in Turkey on Wednesday before heading toward Gaza in an attempt to break the Israeli blockade and disrupt maritime trade coming into Israel during the war with Hamas, in an apparent repeat of similar attempts from over a decade ago.Nov 21, 2023

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Last time they did this 10 Turkish soldiers were killed by Isreali commandos

Isreal should force every boat to take 10 Palestinians back to Turkey with them LOL.

 

[spat]

AMMAN (Reuters) - Jordan said on Tuesday the army had beefed up its presence along its borders with Israel and warned that any Israeli attempt to forcibly push Palestinians across the Jordan River would represent a breach of its peace accord with its neighbour.

Ya really think they sent armored units to stop illegal immigration? They are sending a message.

I think Jordan sees Palestinian refugees as a weapon of mass destruction.

Given their experiences with them in the past, they're not wrong.

 

[spat]

Thats a mistake Doc. without question Israel has a state of the art military. well trained . But thats not enough. theres a lot of other factors that come into play here. Its not just about weapons and will. The Ukrainians are learning a hard lesson about weapons right now. the Iron dome didn't go as well as advertised either. The German army got its ass handed to them too.

Thou has chosen war, that will happen which will happen, and only god will know the outcome.- Ghenghis Khan

A quote from no country for old men :

"Even in the contest between man and steer, the issue is not certain."

The best hope for peace in the mideast is a Trump win in 2024.

Another term with Brandon will have everyone over there trying to get every dollar of appeasement they can get.

Trump's mere presence in the oval office would put a stop for a lot of that shenanigans.

They know Biden will respond to threats with trucks full of cash and pressure on Isreal to stand down.

Trump responds by killing your foreign operatives.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

 

[Steal2B]

Pentagon: U.S. Navy Warship, Multiple Commercial Vessels Attacked in Red Sea

A U.S. Navy warship and multiple commercial vessels came under attack Sunday in the Red Sea, the Pentagon said, marking a potential escalation in a series of maritime attacks in the Mideast linked to the Israel-Hamas war.

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BREAKING: Pentagon Reports US Warship & Multiple Commercial Ships Under Attack in Red Sea

According to the Pentagon, an American destroyer and several commercial ships were attacked in the Red Sea on Sunday, perhaps signaling a dramatic escalation in a series of maritime strikes in the Middle East connected to the Israel-Hamas conflict. "We're aware of reports regarding attacks on...

thepoliticsbrief.com

 

[holdover]

Appeasement is never a good idea.

If you allow Iran (or Russia) to affect your internal policy with threats, then they are effectively in charge.

So, either call their bluff, or just turn the whole place over to them.

It's like people have completely forgotten the lessons of WWII.

When somebody puts a fucking gun to your head and demands your wallet , you may want to rethink your appeasement policy.

 

[Steal2B]

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Pentagon: U.S. Navy Warship, Multiple Commercial Vessels Attacked in Red Sea

A U.S. Navy warship and multiple commercial vessels came under attack Sunday in the Red Sea, the Pentagon said, marking a potential escalation in a series of maritime attacks in the Mideast linked to the Israel-Hamas war.

www.breitbart.com

BREAKING: Pentagon Reports US Warship & Multiple Commercial Ships Under Attack in Red Sea

According to the Pentagon, an American destroyer and several commercial ships were attacked in the Red Sea on Sunday, perhaps signaling a dramatic escalation in a series of maritime strikes in the Middle East connected to the Israel-Hamas conflict. "We're aware of reports regarding attacks on...

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[Phazer]

When somebody puts a fucking gun to your head and demands your wallet , you may want to rethink your appeasement policy.

When someone has already broken your fingers, shot your dog, stolen your car, and molested your wife, you may want to rethink taking their promises of peace.

 

[FrankenCub]

When someone has already broken your fingers, shot your dog, stolen your car, and molested your wife, you may want to rethink taking their promises of peace.

The goat fuckers already said they will attack Israel again when Isreal stops.

 

[Phazer]

The goat fuckers already said they will attack Israel again when Isreal stops.

Simple answer: Don't stop. Never stop. Until the threat is eliminated. Only when that happens can Israel reholster their weapons.