President Trump shot (2024 Butler PA)
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Far king
.357 mag
Just great ! The roof is covered with LEOs in full loadout and there’s a friggin chopper in the air .
a day late and a dollar short in my book.
Vinson57
.475 A&M Magnum
Drone recon of the area
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
I want to see Crooks drone footage .
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
There had to be a second spitter
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
It could be, they reported it as his , said his ""red sonata ""car , and his van were packed with explosives. but weren't at the grounds. drone was found in his car . the only police photos of his car are in his driveway. I default to the truth is simple lies are complex.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
You assume its someone else's in the house, its also simple to show pics of his car at the crime scene if he he had one .pics of the exsplosives, drones, ladder. bombsquad. How do you know if someone else owned a similar car? the reports said the sonata was his.So im going off of that. If so it was parked in the driveway of his home in police photos, How in the hell would it have been parked in driveway? it means he didnt drive it to the rally or the police thoughtfully brought it home for him. CNN said it was a 1 hour drive to the rally. (probably 3 by bike at least. ) it was packed with explosives in his driveway. His drone was found in his car he didnt take it to the rally. you dont see any problems with that?? some kid on the side of the road carting a ladder wearing a back pack. that sounds right?
why pack your car full of explosives and then leave it home?
why bike 3 hours to the rally when you have a car?
the story they are painting is that he went to the store and bought a ladder and Ammo, went to the rally early, flew his drone , drove an hour back home , packed his car with exsplosives then took his bike , took or didnt take his 5 ft ladder( no pics) with him grabbed his back pack and rode 3 hours by bike back to the rally
Shooter had explosive device in his car parked nearby. Thomas Matthew Crooks' car was found near the Trump rally in Butler, Pa., sources close to the investigation into the shooting told The Wall Street Journal.
that doesn't seem weird to you? How did he get to the rally if his car was at home? Bike. why pack the car with explosives and bring your detonator with you?
Wheres the car?I just need to see the car the explosives the drone and the ladder at the rally and Ill submit I was wrong
Explosive devices found in Trump shooter Thomas Matthew Crooks’ car after failed assassination attempt at rally: report
Explosive devices were found inside the car of the gunman who attempted to assassinate former President Donald Trump during his Saturday rally in Pennsylvania, according to a report.
nypost.com
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4WHLDRFTN
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holdover
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They said he looked up JFK assassination too.
Vinson57
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We may be looking at the wrong window?
Vinson57
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Water tower drone investigation
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
Who wrote this Assassination plot .. Christopher Steele
holdover
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spat
.700 Nitro Express
Rube Goldberg
That thumbnail sure looks like Crookes had a twin.
so many different stories coming out, many contradicting previous stories.
Yeah, someone or some group is flooding the airwaves to try to muddy the investigative waters.
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Well, lets bog down the American people with a minutia of irrelevant details and minimize Trump actually being shot With FBI chief saying the agency isn't sure. Um, hey Wray, there is a picture of the bullet, in the air after it passed through his ear, there is a picture of him with a hole in his ear. Where's the missing man with ties to Washington D.C.?
All this just makes me feel stronger that Government entities are somehow involved with this assassination attempt.
Sad and disgusting.
Robin
All this just makes me feel stronger that Government entities are somehow involved with this assassination attempt.
Sad and disgusting.
Robin
4WHLDRFTN
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Cavalry
.338 Win Mag
Again, I am not following your logic path.You assume its someone else's in the house, its also simple to show pics of his car at the crime scene if he he had one .pics of the exsplosives, drones, ladder. bombsquad. How do you know if someone else owned a similar car? the reports said the sonata was his.So im going off of that. If so it was parked in the driveway of his home in police photos, How in the hell would it have been parked in driveway? it means he didnt drive it to the rally or the police thoughtfully brought it home for him. CNN said it was a 1 hour drive to the rally. (probably 3 by bike at least. ) it was packed with explosives in his driveway. His drone was found in his car he didnt take it to the rally. you dont see any problems with that?? some kid on the side of the road carting a ladder wearing a back pack. that sounds right?
why pack your car full of explosives and then leave it home?
why bike 3 hours to the rally when you have a car?
the story they are painting is that he went to the store and bought a ladder and Ammo, went to the rally early, flew his drone , drove an hour back home , packed his car with exsplosives then took his bike , took or didnt take his 5 ft ladder( no pics) with him grabbed his back pack and rode 3 hours by bike back to the rally
Shooter had explosive device in his car parked nearby. Thomas Matthew Crooks' car was found near the Trump rally in Butler, Pa., sources close to the investigation into the shooting told The Wall Street Journal.
that doesn't seem weird to you? How did he get to the rally if his car was at home? Bike. why pack the car with explosives and bring your detonator with you?
Wheres the car?I just need to see the car the explosives the drone and the ladder at the rally and Ill submit I was wrong
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Explosive devices found in Trump shooter Thomas Matthew Crooks’ car after failed assassination attempt at rally: report
Explosive devices were found inside the car of the gunman who attempted to assassinate former President Donald Trump during his Saturday rally in Pennsylvania, according to a report.
Are you saying he did not have a have a Hyundai Sonata as reported and the Hyundai Kona? in the driveway is his vehicle? How did you come to that conclusion?
Cavalry
.338 Win Mag
I find it interesting that the Heritage Foundation did not find this trip to the gun range. One would think that would have been a juicy tidbit to share if they had discovered it.
Bullet in air is almost certainly a Photoshop job, for a number of reasons. One simple one is the supposed trajectory (based on motion blur) does not make sense, given the location of the hole in Trump's upper ear.
Vinson57
.475 A&M Magnum
The new theory of it came from the window below and its a rising trajectory and would be different from crooks.
We have most asking why photog using such a high speed. Were moles sent to document the poteniial carnage?
Women in the back, she was to catch the back side
The message would be made - do what we say
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
We are in the midst of "Operation Muddy the Waters". Flood the net with tidbits of thruths, lots of conflicting info, stir conspiracy theories to make people sound crazy, and never let anyone know the full story.
Trumps assassination attempt failed, and just after we had a Crowdstrike failure, Bidens fake coviD, then Biden stepping down.
Whether a conspiracy or not the elites are panicking that Trump is the likely next president (if he survives).
Trumps assassination attempt failed, and just after we had a Crowdstrike failure, Bidens fake coviD, then Biden stepping down.
Whether a conspiracy or not the elites are panicking that Trump is the likely next president (if he survives).
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
It's pretty rare for a kid to have both. Since there were no pics of his car at the scene, and the press said he owned a sonata, an obviously similar car, I figured the press made an error in identification ,like they often tend to do.
Now you might be right , it may be his ma's or sisters car too,, it could also be a mistake on the medias part.
The media is saying his sonata was parked at the rally but not one shread of evidence shows it was. No car no bomb squad no flatbed no pics whatsoever.
My thought was he would to have to have help if no proof of his car is provided.
The fact that a Hyundai is parked in his driveway, and no other Hyundai can be found, I have to ask if that is the shooters car in the driveway mi's identifyed as a sonata.
That's kinda what I'm thinking.
I would need to see pics of his car at the rally, with explosives And a drone to say with certainty it was his car.
The car story with bombs is starting to look like a bullshit story to me.
I'm thinking the car bomb story is planted to demonstrate how he got there, I might be totally wrong here, but I'm leaning to the fact that he had asistance.ie a pre- placed ladder
My thought is that reporters from another paper, followed police to the house, and began asking neighbors questions , as reporters do, is that crooks house? Is that crooks car?
Maybe I'm going down a shallow rabbit hole, new pics come up proving me wrong.
Or maybe nothing surfaces , and it just remains suspicious.
Right now for me pics or it didn't happen
Celt
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That's easy because at least half of them are probably already dead so you only need to find housing for 40 million. I hear Guam is Nice this time of year.
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Secret service DENIED drone coverage for Trump rally.
www.breitbart.com
Hawley: Whistleblower Says Secret Service Declined Drones for Trump Rally
Sen. Josh Hawley (R-MO) on Thursday revealed in a letter that a whistleblower told him that the U.S. Secret Service (USSS) turned down offers from a local law enforcement partner to utilize drone technology to secure the July 13 rally where a shooter attempted to assassinate former President...
www.breitbart.com
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Vinson57
.475 A&M Magnum
The rounds fired by crooks is answered by telling us how big his magazine was and how many rounds are left with the assumption is that it was fully loaded with the only discrepancy possible is for the round in the chamber. We then get the answer is minus 5? or the answer is minus 8?
They hold all facts that do not fit in the crazed lone gunman narrative.
They like all us conspiracy theorist are going as it gives them time to think.
There were two mass formations groups and some may think this is wacko but it happened with safe and effective and i was never safe and effective
There is a large group who have complete aversion of considering a conspiracy - they act the same as telling them its not safe and effective.
There is a large group, stuck on stupid when the SS Chief uttered the words "sloped roof" - their brains locked up and that as far as their brain went.
They hold all facts that do not fit in the crazed lone gunman narrative.
They like all us conspiracy theorist are going as it gives them time to think.
There were two mass formations groups and some may think this is wacko but it happened with safe and effective and i was never safe and effective
There is a large group who have complete aversion of considering a conspiracy - they act the same as telling them its not safe and effective.
There is a large group, stuck on stupid when the SS Chief uttered the words "sloped roof" - their brains locked up and that as far as their brain went.
Laxman
.177 BB
I personally don't post a lot as you can tell, but I found this to be one of the most interesting of all the videos out there. I suggest you watch the entire video due to their opinion's on some of the subject matter is interesting. However if you want to see and hear their analytical evidence skip ahead to 20:32. You'll be surprised by the theory they've come up with about the possibility and location of a second shooter.
FYI. The day after the attempted and failed assassination... Fox News aired a video (that's been posted a few pages back) and interview with a local resident that videoed the supposed Van that the alleged suspect used. The video was taken by this individual on Lawrence Ave which is only a 1/2 a mile away from the rally. I determined the location of the Van by the house in the background using Google Street View. The house in the video is on the SW. corner of Lawrence Ave and Meridian Rd.
MothMan
.338 Win Mag
This is want the power brokers want. As a population in constant agiitation is easily manipulated. AGIPROP!!
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Well, against my better judgement. Pretty thin there Rap, having read the comments made by the camera man and how things proceed, He wouldn't have had time to photoshop, realizing what he captured it was immediately sent to his user. Bullet trajectory, there is no reliable way to predict the bullet path of the .556, after the initial impact, especially at the range indicated. I have seen tracers of that caliber ricochet off leaves.
You suppose, maybe, if, but, coulda, woulda, no data, no, corroboration. Yep, pretty thin.
Robin