GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
C'mon man you know the thing
State Police Arrest Herkimer County Man for Failing to Store a Firearm Safely
On September 11, 2024, State Police arrested Robert D. Hollum, age 49, from Mohawk, NY
State Police Arrest Herkimer County Man for Failing to Store a Firearm Safely
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C'mon man you know the thing
OwnTheRide
6.5 Creedmoor
Unclear whether or not he had a truck, but it seems like this could be a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. He ran out of fuel, and if he didn't have a trunk to lock the gun into, then his choices were to either leave it there, or walk all the way to (wherever he went) while carrying a long gun, which could freak out the ninnies.
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
More dumbfuckery from the state that brought you more unconstitutional laws than all others combined! Were number one!
Robin
Robin
Hmmmmnnn. Still strikes me as kind of chicken shit by the cops. Now, - was he drinking, and crashed and then bailed off the scene to avoid a DUI? Maybe...
But it makes me ask the question: if I am legally carrying my loaded EDC in my car, and am in a crash where I am injured and hauled off by an ambulance, - and my EDC ends up on the floorboard, would I potentially be facing this same charge?
spat
.950 JDJ
Everyone has run out of gas once in their life.
It's a bone headed thing to do, but it shouldn't be the basis of a criminal charge.
Similarly, this guy make be a POS based on some of the other suggestions in this thread. But he wasn't charged for being a POS.
Maybe he was drunk, but he wasn't charged for being drunk.
This whole attitude of "well, he was doing this bad thing that we couldn't catch him for, so we made up these charges for something else to get him on" is disgusting.
It doesn't matter if he had 10 dead hookers in his trunk, the gun charge is Bullshit.
ManualF150
.308 Win
So does this mean you can't have a long gun in a truck's gun rack and have the doors locked?
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
so what about his history; he was out in public and deserves all his RIGHTS ..
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
"Troopers observed a long gun (.22 caliber) in the rear passenger floorboard and 500 rounds of .22 caliber ammunition nearby. Troopers secured the gun and responded to the registered owner's address who stated he ran out of fuel."
so broke into his locked vehicle, stole his gun and ammo and then arrested him
so broke into his locked vehicle, stole his gun and ammo and then arrested him
IrishMick
.44 mag
Well, it says the vehicle was in a ditch. I have run out of gas before, but never in a ditch. Gun charge is still kind of BS.
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
If the doors were locked then whats the difference if its your home and the doors are locked?
And if they werent locked its illegal to steal someone elses property so what if the stole a hammer from his car?
Laws like this are designed to punish gun owners, and discourage gun ownership.
And if they werent locked its illegal to steal someone elses property so what if the stole a hammer from his car?
Laws like this are designed to punish gun owners, and discourage gun ownership.
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
He had 500 rounds of ammo. He probably ran out of gas on his way to shoot up several schools!!!
Good to know cops are looking in the windows of every car the see parked on the side of the road. It's not like we have a problem with violent thugs, child molesters, illegal immigrants, or cat eating Haitians to worry about.
Good to know cops are looking in the windows of every car the see parked on the side of the road. It's not like we have a problem with violent thugs, child molesters, illegal immigrants, or cat eating Haitians to worry about.
Lets think a second. We all know reporting today is all made up fake bs.
Car in a ditch, was it in or on the side of the road?
Was it out of gas?
How far from home was it?
Who picked him up?
www.wktv.com
Car in a ditch, was it in or on the side of the road?
Was it out of gas?
How far from home was it?
Who picked him up?
Chair of Herkimer County Legislature, Robert Hollum, Pleads Not Guilty During Arraignment
Herkimer County Legislator Robert Hollum appeared in court on Friday morning.
Willyone
6.5 Creedmoor
If I "ran out of gas" before or after running my truck into a ditch and had to walk home or to wherever, would I leave my .22 rifle + 500 rounds of ammo in plain sight, out in the open? Fuck no, I would not. Who here would do that... probably no one here. That's a stupid thing to do. Is it reason for an arrest?... not a law guy so I don't know if it is or not, but there should be some consequences for STUPID.
You have to be the drunk, crack head to understand them.
Example, the "found" coke at the white house; that not one camera picked up on.
Obviously they had something in this hand and what was in the other hand was forgotten.
Beverly hills cop
Example, the "found" coke at the white house; that not one camera picked up on.
Obviously they had something in this hand and what was in the other hand was forgotten.
Beverly hills cop
Or he could have just walked down the road with the rifle in one hand and the brick of .22 ‘s in the other hand. Nobody would have Noticed right ? Imagine the imaginative shit storm that would have created if a Karen caught sight of him doing that ?? It was a damned if you do , damned if you don’t situation. Now, could he have taken measures to secure the firearm and bullets in the trunk before he walked off ? Of course. But as they often say, you can’t fix stupid.
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Willyone
6.5 Creedmoor
Yep, trunk of the car or if in a PU truck under the back seat or behind the seat in a regular/short cab truck. Either or he decided to leave it out in the open, stupid, no common sense. He needs some kind of slap on the peepee, dumb fuk.
Cavalry
.338 Win Mag
Storing under or behind the seat is not always an option. I have a Ram crewcab pickup, there is no place to store a long gun out of sight. I am betting he didnt know or didnt think it was going to be an issue, as it should be.
Willyone
6.5 Creedmoor
Understood. But I could flip up the back seat of my Silverado and stick a .22 rifle under it. Jus' say'n...
Or just walk down the road with it and let the Karens of the world shit themselves
In Massachusetts firearms must be locked up even when asleep.
A man had a heart attack. EMT's arrived.
EMT's observed a handgun on the nightstand. Unlocked.
You can guess the outcome.
PS Perhaps he was not "asleep" until the event ? Didn't matter.
A man had a heart attack. EMT's arrived.
EMT's observed a handgun on the nightstand. Unlocked.
You can guess the outcome.
PS Perhaps he was not "asleep" until the event ? Didn't matter.
Bustedknees
12-gauge slug (smooth bore)
It's time we all put gun racks in our rear windows again
Bigfoot
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I have run out of gas before, I have also been in a ditch, just not both at the same time.
Glad I live in an area where people wouldn't freak out to see a person walking down the side of the road carrying a gun. Just don't wear a ski mask at the same time and there shouldn't be a problem.
When I was a young teenager there would be 3 or 4 of us (friends) walking down the side of the road going to our shooting spot and all of us carrying our long guns. Nobody thought anything of it. But that was in farm country and in a different era. Most people had gun racks in their truck back then. I might be getting off-topic, so, over and out.
Glad I live in an area where people wouldn't freak out to see a person walking down the side of the road carrying a gun. Just don't wear a ski mask at the same time and there shouldn't be a problem.
When I was a young teenager there would be 3 or 4 of us (friends) walking down the side of the road going to our shooting spot and all of us carrying our long guns. Nobody thought anything of it. But that was in farm country and in a different era. Most people had gun racks in their truck back then. I might be getting off-topic, so, over and out.
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Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
there is ,.... your gun gets stolen and not just by the Cops ...
PS .. there shouldn't be one damn law dealing with guns ..
PSS... may be just one law .. by law you are required to have at least a dozen ..
that would be a Law that goes WITH the 2A and not Against it ..
Gunright
.45 acp
Last I remember reading, there was no clause in the 2nd where it states "unless STUPID, in which case this doesn't apply".
This is one of the reasons I'm leaving this fking state - so many here think they are smart because they know the intimate details of the guns laws, and he haw when someone not as "smart" as them gets jacked by the system. I don't know this "stupid" guy at all, and for all I know he cuuld be a real douche, but that doesn't matter. The state police could have easily run the vin, looked him up, called him or drove to his residence to bring him back to the vehicle to safety get his rifle and be done with it. Instead, gun charge here we go.
Willyone
6.5 Creedmoor
All well and good but the thing is, most gun owners in NYS realize the law will fuk with you if/when the opportunity arises, regardless of the 2A. So yeah, the guy was stupid for leaving the gun and ammo in plain sight when he left the vehicle. It left the window of opportunity open for the assholes to fuk with him.
This charge will LIKELY be dismissed in the interest of justice.....extenuating circumstances/non violent crime..and not an AR15.
Local official, local judges, very rural area..........Trooper may get a talking to by his Commander.
I am puzzled as to why he did not use his cell phone to call for gas....oops.probably did.
That he was home indicates that he may have been drinking, and got a ride home from someone after putting car into ditch.
Local official, local judges, very rural area..........Trooper may get a talking to by his Commander.
I am puzzled as to why he did not use his cell phone to call for gas....oops.probably did.
That he was home indicates that he may have been drinking, and got a ride home from someone after putting car into ditch.
Gunright
.45 acp
Thank you for reinforcing my decision to leave the state.