No... I didn't mean the Rothschild part. I get that.
I meant, why are we picking a fight with cuba right now?
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No... I didn't mean the Rothschild part. I get that.
I meant, why are we picking a fight with cuba right now?
TEOTWAWKI inc.
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Mexico is another top candidate for a bankers war. Cartel attack during the world cup would probably be enough of an excuse to send our troops down there. Do we have armored busses yet? AM General could crank those out pretty quick.
Cuba is not under Rothchild Central Bank control. Just like Venezuela was not. In order to have a one world currency, that has to be changed. It will be really interesting how they think we will take over Russia.
spat
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Ahh, Europe, China, and Russia.
Truly you have assembled the finest collection of state actors available.
When it comes to international politics, Western Europe is the afore mentioned Turnip.
Russia and China have their own reasons for wanting to keep Iran around. None of them good for anyone else.
You might as well poll the drug cartels to see who should be running Mexico.
Nothing from Iran since then has done anything to American. Propaganda media has fooled you.
Huh? Trump is like best friends with Xi Jinping and Putin. Am I missing something? Almost golfing with those guys.
Fuck Israel!!! Got it??? If you dont, Ill be happy to clue your ass in!!
Today we remember the 34 American crew members killed and the 171 wounded aboard the USS Liberty on June 8, 1967 when they were attacked by Israeli military forces.
Rest in peace men
Today we remember the 34 American crew members killed and the 171 wounded aboard the USS Liberty on June 8, 1967 when they were attacked by Israeli military forces.
Rest in peace men
holdover
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Just keep making bullshit statements and ignore reality. that pretty much is the rest of the world, unless we include the Mid east too.
holdover
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not sure what your saying there.
spat
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You apparently get all your news from China and Russia.
Because they're known for their honesty and candor.
As for Western Europe, actual Muslim majority countries now worry that their kids will be radicalized by visiting there. Maybe they're not the beacon of truth you want to follow either.
holdover
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yeah, I still dont get what your trying to say
holdover
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Yes good morning Hong Kong,
Tass, Pravda. Moscow today and New York Times, the only news I trust is MSNBC , and CNN
Steal2B
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TEOTWAWKI inc.
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Looks like Iran shot down one of our helicopters.
The peace deal must be nearing completion.
The peace deal must be nearing completion.
Steal2B
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TEOTWAWKI inc.
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Cool. We must be getting close to a deal.
Back to "proportional response" !
Drop every old bomb on them today, then smoke every one of them at their house, location, stop the proportional crap we know it will not work.
The people in the middle east only know/respect power.
When you start stuff you better be ready to end it; the quicker the better or you get, Vietnam, iraq, Africa war.
holdover
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In the days before the latest flare-ups of violence in the Middle East, President Trump’s aides were negotiating with Tehran on four major elements of a nuclear agreement that U.S. officials contend would grind the program to a halt for 15 years or so.
The negotiations, according to U.S. officials and diplomats who have been briefed on the confidential talks, have gone considerably beyond discussion about reopening the Strait of Hormuz, which the Iranians have all but shut down for 101 days.
The result is what American officials describe as the hazy outlines of an accord — assuming the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps and hard-line Iranian politicians do not overrule Iran’s chief negotiator, Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi, or torpedo the much more detailed talks that the United States has proposed to hold in Switzerland this summer.
It is not clear whether talks will be set back by the latest developments, including Mr. Trump’s statement on Tuesday that Iran had shot down an American helicopter near the Strait of Hormuz and that the United States would have to respond.
According to the officials and diplomats, here are the four major points of negotiation on a nuclear agreement between the United States and Iran:
The discussions are at a precarious state. Iran and Israel exchanged fire on Sunday and Monday, and Mr. Trump said a U.S. Army Apache helicopter gunship was shot down off the coast of Oman on Monday. (The crew was rescued.)
Mr. Trump spoke by phone with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel on Sunday and Monday, demanding that he halt Israel’s attacks. During the calls, Mr. Trump argued that more Israeli strikes on Tehran and Iran’s energy and military infrastructure could undercut any effort to bring Iran closer to surrendering its stockpile of nuclear fuel, according to a U.S. official familiar with the conversation.
The negotiations, according to U.S. officials and diplomats who have been briefed on the confidential talks, have gone considerably beyond discussion about reopening the Strait of Hormuz, which the Iranians have all but shut down for 101 days.
The result is what American officials describe as the hazy outlines of an accord — assuming the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps and hard-line Iranian politicians do not overrule Iran’s chief negotiator, Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi, or torpedo the much more detailed talks that the United States has proposed to hold in Switzerland this summer.
It is not clear whether talks will be set back by the latest developments, including Mr. Trump’s statement on Tuesday that Iran had shot down an American helicopter near the Strait of Hormuz and that the United States would have to respond.
According to the officials and diplomats, here are the four major points of negotiation on a nuclear agreement between the United States and Iran:
1. A lengthy suspension of uranium enrichment
The United States has demanded for months that Iran agree to conduct no uranium enrichment for at least 20 years. The Iranians have countered by offering a 10-year halt, but American officials believe they will settle for 15 years.2. Iran’s current stockpile of enriched uranium is diluted, or “downblended”
3. Iran dismantles its nuclear sites
The United States has demanded that Iran dismantle its three major nuclear sites at Natanz, Fordo and Isfahan.4. Iran agrees to “snap” inspections
The United States wants international inspectors to be able to conduct “snap” inspections, anytime and anyplace inside Iran.The discussions are at a precarious state. Iran and Israel exchanged fire on Sunday and Monday, and Mr. Trump said a U.S. Army Apache helicopter gunship was shot down off the coast of Oman on Monday. (The crew was rescued.)
Mr. Trump spoke by phone with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel on Sunday and Monday, demanding that he halt Israel’s attacks. During the calls, Mr. Trump argued that more Israeli strikes on Tehran and Iran’s energy and military infrastructure could undercut any effort to bring Iran closer to surrendering its stockpile of nuclear fuel, according to a U.S. official familiar with the conversation.
Steal2B
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I have seen no reporting out of CentCom ... just had vague personal conversations with a retired General (who proudly was an Army chopper pilot during his youthful deployments) who insinuated our response is more significant than being reported by the US media. He also indicated that the most probable reason an Iranian drone could bring down that chopper is if it was riding low and slow making it a bit more vulnerable to a relatively slow and clumsy Iranian surface to air drone.
TEOTWAWKI inc.
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Did he happen to say if we are getting closer to a deal?
TEOTWAWKI inc.
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We've got to be closer than ever now.
Bigfoot
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There's a time and place for the art of the deal. This is not one of those times. IMO
I think so many bombs should be dropped and missiles fired like the Middle East maybe the even the world has never seen before. So many bombs and missiles that ah nevermind.
I think so many bombs should be dropped and missiles fired like the Middle East maybe the even the world has never seen before. So many bombs and missiles that ah nevermind.
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Steal2B
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Lol. No.
Even if terms are close I doubt either party is in a hurry.
Trump knows the painful economic pressure threatens Iranian leadership's control over time and the Iranians know that with relatively minor discomfort in comparison the US media and Dems likewise weaken the US posture over time.
holdover
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Honestly, it might just have been a bizarre mid air accident , just ran the fuck into each other ,Shit happens
holdover
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DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — The U.S. military launched airstrikes and Iran retaliated Wednesday following the crash of an Army helicopter near the Strait of Hormuz that U.S. President Donald Trump blamed on the Islamic Republic.
Iran launched attacks in Bahrain and Kuwait, which both sounded alerts and fired air defenses in response. Iran also said it targeted an air base in Jordan hosting U.S. forces, which was not immediately acknowledged either by American or Jordanian officials.
apnews.com
Iran launched attacks in Bahrain and Kuwait, which both sounded alerts and fired air defenses in response. Iran also said it targeted an air base in Jordan hosting U.S. forces, which was not immediately acknowledged either by American or Jordanian officials.
US and Iran launch airstrikes after Trump blames Tehran for downing Army helicopter
The U.S. military launched airstrikes and Iran retaliated following the crash of an Army helicopter near the Strait of Hormuz that U.S.
apnews.com
spat
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You don't fight a war with "proportional responses". You eliminate your enemies ability to wage war.
Fucking diplomats trying to run the show will screw this up yet again.
Bomb them, and keep bombing them until they surrender. You don't bomb until they start negotiating, you bomb until they're done negotiating.
spat
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Could be they shot down the drone and then ran into the debris field.
In any case, Iran shouldn't be flying drones there.