holdover
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Im not so sure they are planning any ground operations in the near future, but I did read they were massing a lot of tankers in Isreal
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Im not so sure they are planning any ground operations in the near future, but I did read they were massing a lot of tankers in Isreal
Apparently ~60 are in Israel right now.
They are being positioned further back because they were are risk being deployed closer and multiple took damage.
I'm absolutely not ruling out a ground/amphibious/air invasion of some sort, somewhere in Iran. Either Qeshim Island, Kharg Island or some other region of Iran (Southern Iran desert, pickaxe mountain etc). Personally I think it's a terrible idea but that doesn't mean people aren't considering it as a real option.
holdover
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I think its on the table, but I think the commanders understand the situation better than the administration. you want to go in to win , not play fucking games , and that requires a lot of planning, a lot of resources , a shit ton of men , prepositioning ect.
they are going to want to establish an air base as soon as possible so the turn around time on strikes is minimal , right now they are flying from Jordan and Isreal(?) Diego Garcia, NATO bases, and carriers but the turn around time and matinence is to long for ground support , when seconds count, help is just minutes away. Delays can cost lives
Qeshm island has an airport , its a great defensive postion to hold , but the airfield will be under constant attack from drones and missiles and artillery . the main objective would be the airfield , but if its unusable or to costly to hold , the objective is not worth taking .
If they go in half assed , they could have a serious problem, the drone threat has to be nuetralized to move forward , in my opinion .
I would think a better option is to go in as far south and close to pakistan as possible and you might be able to get the carriers closer to the fighting where they can shine . drones are still going to be an issue . My guess is the best anti drone system is a drone. high speed fighter drones able to intercept drones forward of the battle area . I dont know what the possibilities are at this point but that seems the way to go rather than shooting at them when they are right on top of you You could put up an umbrella over the battle area . might not stop missles so well but it can keep drone strikes to a minimum
I'm certain plans are being developed for a ground attack of some sort. Doesn't mean it will happen but you know there are all kinds of plans. The problem is Iran is a big country, with lots of places to hide and the mullahs have had 45 years to think about an invasion from the great Satan. If we go in we will want something quick and surgical to eliminate the regime. I think the IRGC knows this and is planning on it.
I think things are about to re-escalate in a big way.
Bigfoot
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"Iran's foreign ministry spokesperson declared this week that Tehran's leadership is 'counting down the minutes to welcome' a U.S. ground invasion, as the Pentagon prepares plans for Special Operations Forces raids and potential seizure of Kharg Island — Iran's primary crude oil export terminal — backed by 82nd Airborne elements and A-10 Thunderbolt II close air support."
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Steal2B
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It looks that way but there is still a probability it's posturing in an expensive US strategy.
Iran has retained a substantial capacity to inflict local regional damage but the certainty of a devastating counter-response (mostly from the United States and Israel) keeps Iranian "leadership" from "pulling the escalation trigger" unless the IRGC perceives that a US strike is already unavoidable.
They conciously avoid crossing a line which would start suicidal ending that ends the current leadership's grip on power and they are betting their best defense is still a long drawn out costly affair.
Tehran has integrated more aggressive language into its propaganda, which may signal a transition from "strategic patience to wait for help from US politics " to "active and unpredictable deterrence" when faced with an existential threat.
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Oh so now we are talking boots on the ground! Imagine that. So its not going to be over in a few weeks like Trump said? Here I'll say it. Another 20 year tax paying blood draining war. Sink in yet?
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< sigh >
When you have nothing left, when your economy is in the tank, when you're about to be exposed for crimes that might find you on the end of a rope....Go to War!
holdover
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Karg is misdirection like Cali was in WW2. Taking Karg doesnt do anything to iranian economy because They cant ship anything out anyways .
Its only good as a negotiation chip .
hopeing Kurdish forces even show up is funny. I dont expect much from them . it looks like the US is trying to have a ground war without haveing a ground war , a raid on pickaxe mountain, taking an island , pinprick attacks , it like China taking Catalina island ,
Its only good as a negotiation chip .
hopeing Kurdish forces even show up is funny. I dont expect much from them . it looks like the US is trying to have a ground war without haveing a ground war , a raid on pickaxe mountain, taking an island , pinprick attacks , it like China taking Catalina island ,
Bigfoot
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Meh, throughout our history, American citizens have had to sometimes sacrifice something or another to support the troops and the war effort as a whole. (WWII comes to mind) If I have to pay more for fuel for the time being, to keep the "Death to America Fanatical Religious Cult" from getting/having nukes, I'm fine with that... YMMV
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Bigfoot
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Just a thought. Given that Mr. McCommie Mamdani and the Islamists have taken over New York City. New York City would probably no longer be the #1 target for the Islamic terrorists' hit list as it was during 9-11-01. I realize that NYC is the financial hub and all that; I'm just saying.
At this point, it's probably something more like the Niagara Falls area would be nuked by the fanatical Iranian Death to America cult. Primarily due to the Niagara Hydroelectric Power Station and the SAB Generating stations. And besides that, WNY is still made up of mostly patriotic Americans who love their country. Not so much with the people in NYC...
It seems to me that at this point, NYC is made up of mostly foreigners who are obviously the enemy of our country and all that is good. The enemy is inside the gates, so to speak.
I'm not totally against President Trump and the Department of War dropping the bitch of all bombs on Iran at this point.
At this point, it's probably something more like the Niagara Falls area would be nuked by the fanatical Iranian Death to America cult. Primarily due to the Niagara Hydroelectric Power Station and the SAB Generating stations. And besides that, WNY is still made up of mostly patriotic Americans who love their country. Not so much with the people in NYC...
It seems to me that at this point, NYC is made up of mostly foreigners who are obviously the enemy of our country and all that is good. The enemy is inside the gates, so to speak.
I'm not totally against President Trump and the Department of War dropping the bitch of all bombs on Iran at this point.
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Beerman
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You really think they’d hang Trump?
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Bigfoot
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Meh. Another attempt at trolling.
Bigfoot
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I'm paying more for gas. I don't like it, but if it's a temporary thing, I'll live with it. Meh.
It's not like it was much of a difference when Fuck Joe Biden was the President, except for the fact that then there was no justifiable reason for it.
It's not like it was much of a difference when Fuck Joe Biden was the President, except for the fact that then there was no justifiable reason for it.
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Section 219 of the NDAA merges the United States military, American technology, virtually the entire federal government, AND elements of the private sector with Israel.
Anyone who tells you otherwise is either a total idiot or a liar. And they’re probably a foreign agent.
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Anyone who tells you otherwise is either a total idiot or a liar. And they’re probably a foreign agent.
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democrats certainly would, they started the moment he changed sides and announced his candidacy for POTUS.You really think they’d hang Trump?
spat
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He thinks his high school geography teacher is full of shit, let alone the FBI.
Not that *I* trust the FBI as far as I can throw them. Have you seen the people openly admitting they're directly defying Trump's lawful orders.
holdover
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Are you nuts? Republicans better start some perp walks or they will lose support totally. Nothing for allowing millions cross the border, The illegal voting in 2020 and no Epstein lockups. They also lost my support by giving up our military to Israel. As long as AIPAC buys off both sides, there is no point to voting. Congress doesn't answer to the will of the people, unless they are Israeli. It's a Uniparty scam. The Republicans are just a useless as the Democrats. They closed the border because they flooded enough in to take us over. This isn't how you take America back... You gotta be a retard not to see it.
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The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) issued a warning to Gulf States on the social messaging platform Telegram.
"To all citizens and residents of the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and Syria: For your safety, you are urged to immediately stay away from military and security bases, facilities, and headquarters, as well as locations where U.S. forces are deployed."
" Do not approach any area witnessing military movements or exceptional security measures,"
"Immediately maintain a distance of at least 500 meters (1,640 feet) from any covert or concealed accommodations used by U.S. military personnel,"
"These locations include American hotels, American banks, American companies, high-rise towers, properties owned by the Trump family, and investments associated with them"
Maybe?
Beerman
6.5 Creedmoor
Speaking of “switching sidess”, It’s pretty scary that so many people threw in with a rich NYC Democrat, ain’t it?
Robin
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holdover
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Hey do you have a number for how many children were killed in Gaza so far?. I dont want post fake numbers and your good at scopeing out the bullshit, what can you come up with?
CBS has it at 20K on the low end , what numbers you got?
Gaza war has killed an estimated 20,000 kids. CBS News meets many more orphaned, and "always scared."
CBS News meets young Palestinians who've lost their parents to Israel's war with Hamas, who say they're scared, and know "life will never be the same."
www.cbsnews.com
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holdover
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??? in reference to what? Not being a smart ass.