Not to hijack but anyone supplement their nutrition with vitamins while training? I used to take a multi vitamin from GNC years ago when I worked out regularly. I'm starting to get back into it now and I'm not sure if there is anything I should be looking for in a vitamin. Any recommended brands?
Fitness and prepardness.. but im tired today
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Blimey
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I have on and off over the years (off for many now). I'm 99% convinced they are a complete waste of time and money. Study after study has simply failed to show any meaningful benefit from vitamin supplementation unless addressing a specific medical condition and, worse, in some cases vitamin supplementation is detrimental. I am able to comfortably say it is just not something the typical person should bother with.
Essentially the entire industry is built around fear and pseudo-science. How many people have you heard take a multi-day "just in case" or "just to cover all my bases"? Good nutrition has to come from good and cannot be short-cuted with pills.
Case Is Closed: Multivitamins Are a Waste of Money, Doctors Say
Unfortunately this article refers to supplements and vitamins as the same thing whereas vitamins are supplements but not all supplements are vitamins.
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Blimey
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When I was a teen I drank up arnold's bodybuilding encylopedia. Some of its teachings have been evolved on or changed but one thing he always emphasized was good form and I've always stuck to that. In over 20 years of weight lifting on and off i can truly say the only injuries I've ever received from it have been extremely rare teninditis (happened just once when I went back way too hard after a long break with tons of pullups and got tendinitis in one elbow) and lower back pain from squats (I've since quit squatting and deadlifts. I just could never get the form good on these no matter how hard I tried).
Contrast with running I have hurt my lower legs in numerous and unfortunately permanent ways.
Celt, reading about your dumbells. I personally have a hex DB set of 5-50 lbs in 5 lb increments and then a pair of 70's. Years back I was doing DB press but needed more weight so I actually used bungee cords wrapped tightly around my 70's and then with a 10 lber strapped onto each one (each DB's face on the other). Believe it or not I got a set done with these without the bungee undoing and dropping a weight into my face. I have not tried it since.
camper4lyfe
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That's one thing I learned early on with running: You can NOT cram training. Trying to do so will only lead to injury. Slow, steady, and consistently is the way to go.
camper4lyfe
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Form is extremely important when it comes to running, as well. Your injuries are quite possibly from the same things that caused your lifting injuries: too much too soon, and bad form.
Blimey
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It was caused by a mild hip imbalance that only manifested itself as an injury at high volumes (not too much too soon, though--my body just could not tolerate the volume I wanted no matter how slow the ramp up). Running is of course an extremely high injury activity, but I loved it. I was never able to mitigate my assymetry, though, so there was always disproportionate stress one side of my body, leaving me with a calf issue that only ever affected the left and a knee issue that only ever affected the right.
I absolutely adored triathlon training, and I was very successful in the competitions I went in considering how long I had been at it, but running just got more and more unrealistic, so I finally gave it up a few years ago and will suffer with knee pain until the medical establishment can develop a proper cure for tendinosis (so far it has no effective treatments).
Used to swim in high school. 100m and 200m freestyle and backstroke. I try to hit the pool at least once a month but sometimes its hard to work that in with some running and weights. I stick to running and the weights now but when I can I will do a few laps.
Celt
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So it's been a couple of weeks now since I tweaked my shoulders and oddly enough my left shoulder feels better and my right shoulder is not so good, I got a cortisone injection in my right shoulder last Wednesday and while it is feeling a little bit better it doesn't feel great. Today I'm actually going to try a moderate arm workout just to get something going on upper body again. My leg workouts have been going okay although last week I actually caught a bad cold and I lost most of the week from training.
I've been feeling pretty discouraged about my shoulder since I was doing so good, but I'm going to keep doing something regardless until I'm well enough to get back to it again. I also plan on investing in a good lat machine as I've always made do with homemade equipment but at my age I think my joints will benefit from some better equipment so I can work up my weight more slowly.
I've been feeling pretty discouraged about my shoulder since I was doing so good, but I'm going to keep doing something regardless until I'm well enough to get back to it again. I also plan on investing in a good lat machine as I've always made do with homemade equipment but at my age I think my joints will benefit from some better equipment so I can work up my weight more slowly.
Celt
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Been doing arms and legs since i hurt my shoulder and managing to stay fit. Im been developing a new routine im going to implement when the shoulder allows.
For 27 years (just turned 44) ive always done bodypart splits. For the past 17 years i do chest, front delts and tris, then a day off, legs, day off, back, rear delts and bis, day off, repeat (or close to that). And after alot of research ive still been doing too much volume.
Im going to switch it up to an Upper/Lower 4 day split.
For those that dont know that means i do upper body with main focus on compound movements (big multi joint movents), day off, lower body, off, upperbody, lower body, off.
I found a pro written program that is really close to what i wrote so that made feel like im on the right track. If anyone is interested in it for use or critique ill post it.
Also, after yeeeaaars of a home made cable set up i grabbed a lat pull down machine that has a lower pulley too. Its a body solid glm83.
For 27 years (just turned 44) ive always done bodypart splits. For the past 17 years i do chest, front delts and tris, then a day off, legs, day off, back, rear delts and bis, day off, repeat (or close to that). And after alot of research ive still been doing too much volume.
Im going to switch it up to an Upper/Lower 4 day split.
For those that dont know that means i do upper body with main focus on compound movements (big multi joint movents), day off, lower body, off, upperbody, lower body, off.
I found a pro written program that is really close to what i wrote so that made feel like im on the right track. If anyone is interested in it for use or critique ill post it.
Also, after yeeeaaars of a home made cable set up i grabbed a lat pull down machine that has a lower pulley too. Its a body solid glm83.
Been hitting the gym now for 3 weeks. I'm doing chest, biceps and legs Monday's, weds and fri. Then tues, thurs I do back, triceps and shoulders. Some new routine I found online. Works pretty good but my body will get used to it soon and plateau. Gotta switch it up in a week or two. I've always been skinny but every time I try to bulk up something happens. Injury or work gets in the way.
Celt
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Automan, it sounds like alot of training, too much. And with chest/bis 3x a week and back, shoulders, tris 2x a week you are doing serious overtraining. Your shoulders are getting worked on chest day, your shoulders are getting worked on back deck and you're doing shoulders twice a week on top of that. Not to mention you have a chest emphasis which surely is going to lead to an imbalance and impingement syndrome in your shoulders. I know from personal experience.
You should scale it back. Id be more than happy to help you come up with a program that will do much better, for longer, and with less chance of imbalances, and injuries.
You should scale it back. Id be more than happy to help you come up with a program that will do much better, for longer, and with less chance of imbalances, and injuries.
Acer-m14
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come on .. get the workout on 
JaguarJaguarGolf
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3 1/2 months since right knee replaced. Was getting back into steady workouts when.... I sneezed mowing the lawn. My back hurt still hurt so bad after a week I went to the doctor. Physical therapy, muscle relaxants, chiropractor and massage therapist, hot tubs. Whole month of June. One or two spasms a day for past week. Definitely better than it was.
Right now up in Canada at beach house, starting over. Long slow walks on beach with light weight boots and ski poles, bathing suit, swim after walk to cool down. Lifting 10 lb. dumbbells with basic curl,press, bent over row, dead lift, and the one where you stand up straight with the weights chest high and just bend your knees and then stand up straight.
Biggest problem, my mother-in-law is a great cook, and she likes to feed men. Thank God it's mostly fresh fish and vegetables, (but she insists on 2 whiskeys before dinner)
Right now up in Canada at beach house, starting over. Long slow walks on beach with light weight boots and ski poles, bathing suit, swim after walk to cool down. Lifting 10 lb. dumbbells with basic curl,press, bent over row, dead lift, and the one where you stand up straight with the weights chest high and just bend your knees and then stand up straight.
Biggest problem, my mother-in-law is a great cook, and she likes to feed men. Thank God it's mostly fresh fish and vegetables, (but she insists on 2 whiskeys before dinner)
Blimey
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Most people who don't have a 2 in front of their age would end up at the orthopedist in short order doing that sort of thing.come on .. get the workout on
Doc8404
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You're correct. I'm sure doing her would send you to the ortho.
Celt
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Keep at it jg.. set backs are hard, but keep on keeping on.
Btw, i need some empty half kegs. I want to fill some with sand and water. I want 3 for now, one that weighs 75lbs, 100, and 125 for starters.
Btw, i need some empty half kegs. I want to fill some with sand and water. I want 3 for now, one that weighs 75lbs, 100, and 125 for starters.
Doc8404
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Just stop by a frat house and snag a few.
Get the kegs and I'll help you empty them.
masterswimmer
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Celt
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I pick things up and put them down.And what pray tell are you planning to do with the 1/2 full kegs?
Celt
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So, this wed is 10 weeks since i reinjured the shoulder. Still doing legs, arms, some rotator cuff work too. Legs and arms getting stronger, but obviously my chest, back, and shoulders are getting weaker. Yesterday i did 3 sets of theraband flies for chest to see how the shoulder held up and its a little aggravated today. It felt great to get some blood moving in my chest, but the shoulder isnt ready yet.
Ive been fixing up the home gym as well as making equipment for the outdoor gym so that its all ready once my shoulder is.
Down to 194lbs from 200 before the injury and its mostly lost muscle (that sucks).
Ive been fixing up the home gym as well as making equipment for the outdoor gym so that its all ready once my shoulder is.
Down to 194lbs from 200 before the injury and its mostly lost muscle (that sucks).
JaguarJaguarGolf
6.5 Creedmoor
It takes time to heal Celt. Shoulders take longer than other injuries.
JaguarJaguarGolf
6.5 Creedmoor
Summers over, back to the grind lads! Pool is closed at the "Y" 28th through the 5th for maintenance. Last day I was there was the 25th. I've had some good workouts in that pool since we came back from the beach. For a few weeks I was lifting and swimming 3x/week at the "Y". Love the webbed gloves. It is now 14 months since left hip replaced, 11 months since right hip replaced, 5 months since right knee replaced.
I'm breaking in my new workout partner. "Ranger" is now an 11 week old male Black Lab from Eastlake Labradors in the Finger Lakes. We've had him for 3 weeks. He has grown from 11lbs at 8 weeks to 22.1 lbs at 11 weeks. We met the parents. Dad, named Polar, is a 14 month old Yellow Lab @ 80 lbs. and Mom, named Roo, is a very smart, and pretty Black. Ranger's joining of the family was not planned, or rather, a year early. The plan was to wait until my wife retired next summer and we would then travel for a few months. It was a good plan until my wife saw this pup's picture.
Our old girl Jolie, a female black Lab was put down at age 14. She hunted pheasant with me until she was 11. She was my constant companion and I loved her very much. I put her down because she was in too much pain, and I held her in my arms as my friend administered the drugs.
Ranger has increased our morning walks from 20 minutes to almost an hour. He's a puppy so it's mostly him sniffing out his world. He sleeps more than he is awake. I bring him home and then go for an hour hike of my own. I end my hike with 10-15 minutes of target shooting at sporting clays I put on big piles of wood chips. Yesterday and today was sighting in my relatively new 10mm Glock 40. Today it even impressed me. 30 yards dead on, yesterday I was off to the left, but I didn't have the right size screw driver to adjust the sights. I also put the large grips on and that helped too. It felt more like my Glock 20 that I love.
Since the pool is closed two days a week after my hikes I lift my little weights down in my basement. With either my 25 or 35 lb dumbbells I've been mixing it up of 3 sets of lots of different exercises 8 reps each, or I do one set of as many reps as I can of curls presses and flies. I'm happy with the way things are going. Health and Happiness to all.
I'm breaking in my new workout partner. "Ranger" is now an 11 week old male Black Lab from Eastlake Labradors in the Finger Lakes. We've had him for 3 weeks. He has grown from 11lbs at 8 weeks to 22.1 lbs at 11 weeks. We met the parents. Dad, named Polar, is a 14 month old Yellow Lab @ 80 lbs. and Mom, named Roo, is a very smart, and pretty Black. Ranger's joining of the family was not planned, or rather, a year early. The plan was to wait until my wife retired next summer and we would then travel for a few months. It was a good plan until my wife saw this pup's picture.
Our old girl Jolie, a female black Lab was put down at age 14. She hunted pheasant with me until she was 11. She was my constant companion and I loved her very much. I put her down because she was in too much pain, and I held her in my arms as my friend administered the drugs.
Ranger has increased our morning walks from 20 minutes to almost an hour. He's a puppy so it's mostly him sniffing out his world. He sleeps more than he is awake. I bring him home and then go for an hour hike of my own. I end my hike with 10-15 minutes of target shooting at sporting clays I put on big piles of wood chips. Yesterday and today was sighting in my relatively new 10mm Glock 40. Today it even impressed me. 30 yards dead on, yesterday I was off to the left, but I didn't have the right size screw driver to adjust the sights. I also put the large grips on and that helped too. It felt more like my Glock 20 that I love.
Since the pool is closed two days a week after my hikes I lift my little weights down in my basement. With either my 25 or 35 lb dumbbells I've been mixing it up of 3 sets of lots of different exercises 8 reps each, or I do one set of as many reps as I can of curls presses and flies. I'm happy with the way things are going. Health and Happiness to all.
masterswimmer
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Nice update JJG.
I've been fortunate, my pool hasn't closed for maintenance in quite some time. I'm pretty sure they are planning the end of Sept for their annual ritual.
I'm still getting there 5-6 times/week. Still doing my 2+1/4 miles each time.
Was at the doctor last week. Nurse took my vitals and asked to take my heart rate a second time. She was concerned. The first time it came in at 41 BPM. The second time, the same. Swimming does nice things for cardio training.
I've been fortunate, my pool hasn't closed for maintenance in quite some time. I'm pretty sure they are planning the end of Sept for their annual ritual.
I'm still getting there 5-6 times/week. Still doing my 2+1/4 miles each time.
Was at the doctor last week. Nurse took my vitals and asked to take my heart rate a second time. She was concerned. The first time it came in at 41 BPM. The second time, the same. Swimming does nice things for cardio training.
Bananabandit
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Whew. Thanks for helping me break a sweat
E the massive
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Added the the Perfect ab roller to the pain room.
Celt
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Great update jag. And congrats on the new addition.
During this downtime I put a lot of extra emphasis on legs , until my patellar tendonitis started flaring up. So I took a couple weeks off for that. Still been doing arms and a lot of rotator cuff exercises. I've been doing some rubber band work on chest to get a little bit of blood moving and my shoulder is tolerating it so far. It's nothing extensive but just trying to get the blood moving. Looking forward to the shoulder getting better and I will be picking up a power Rack and an Olympic weight set so I can start incorporating even more exercises into my program.
During this downtime I put a lot of extra emphasis on legs , until my patellar tendonitis started flaring up. So I took a couple weeks off for that. Still been doing arms and a lot of rotator cuff exercises. I've been doing some rubber band work on chest to get a little bit of blood moving and my shoulder is tolerating it so far. It's nothing extensive but just trying to get the blood moving. Looking forward to the shoulder getting better and I will be picking up a power Rack and an Olympic weight set so I can start incorporating even more exercises into my program.
masterswimmer
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@Celt just be careful overdoing it. Since you don't make millions playing pro sports it doesn't pay to come back sooner risking re-injury.....or worse.
Celt
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Thanks ms, Ive almost convinced myself that that need to stop pushing heavier and heavier weights and that i just need to find a good moderate range and use that. Im not looking to get back up to 225lbs anymore, ill be content hovering around 200.