Active Shooter Mandalay Bay

[Marine Cpl]

So now we have both ISIS and Antifa claiming the shooter was one of their own. At least one of them is lying.

Until either group can prove his membership I am discounting both claims.

Here's what we know. He was a wealthy gambler. Both are claiming him. Of the two which one can you rule out more?

I say ISIS. No way a wealthy man joins ISIS. No way ISIS reveals themselves to a recent white convert.

He was been seen at anti Trump rallies. There's video out the that has since been removed. Why? Then you have a Hispanic women warning the crowd that they are all going to die. So who is this woman more likely to be affiliated with? ISIS? Probably not.

More points to ANTIFA then ISIS. There is more motive for ANTIFA to specifically target a concert that is comprised mostly of Trump supporters.

 

[Phazer]

Better image of one of the rifles here:

 

[tirwin1]

He was been seen at anti Trump rallies. There's video out the that has since been removed. Why? Then you have a Hispanic women warning the crowd that they are all going to die. So who is this woman more likely to be affiliated with? ISIS? Probably not.

More points to ANTIFA then ISIS. There is more motive for ANTIFA to specifically target a concert that is comprised mostly of Trump supporters.

Was he positively identified at anti-trump rallies or is it simply some guy that bears a resemblance? I find the connection to ISIS a stretch. I also find a connection to ANTIFA a stretch based on both the attributes you mentioned (wealthy white guy) and hiss brother's comments (no political or religious axes to grind). Doesn't mean he wasn't a member. There just isn't any evidence thus far.

It wouldn't surprise me if every anti-american group pulled a "spartacus" moment and claimed him as one of their own. Just to screw with us.

 

[VietnamEraVet]

And the crap continues:

House Speaker and full blown RINO Paul Ryan, who has his own leadership security detail, and a big wall around his home in Janesville, WI has just announced that he is shelving the SHARE Bill HR 3668 indefinitely as he agrees with the Hildabeast! What a god damn traitorous cocksucker he is.

And he has also held up HR 38 National Reciprocity even though it has 212 cosponsors, with only 218 needed to pass the house! Fucker has to go!

Paul Ryan Sides with Hillary: Shelves Bill to Deregulate Suppressors - Breitbart

 

[Defilade]

^^^^^^Like someone said, The timing is unreal on all this.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Was he positively identified at anti-trump rallies or is it simply some guy that bears a resemblance? I find the connection to ISIS a stretch. I also find a connection to ANTIFA a stretch based on both the attributes you mentioned (wealthy white guy) and hiss brother's comments (no political or religious axes to grind). Doesn't mean he wasn't a member. There just isn't any evidence thus far.

It wouldn't surprise me if every anti-american group pulled a "spartacus" moment and claimed him as one of their own. Just to screw with us.

ANTIFA isn't a secret organization like ISIS is. It's just a name given to anti Trump protestors. There isn't a top leader or anything. At least here in the US. Maybe Soros. I mean kids say they are ANTIFA. The requirements for membership are a hatred for Trump, more than 1 protestor standing together, and a mask.

 

[BerettaGuy]

This is my biggest fear as far as a motive for this horrific crime. I think IMO the left becoming violent is a greater threat to America and freedom than ISIS is.

The fanatical left fringe whackos are becoming emboldened, increasingly unstable and violent.

I'm the past 6 months we have seen a gradual escalation of violence.

First it was resist
Than antifa gaining support
The media hailing them all as heroes and trump as an evil dictator
Then free speech at Berkeley died. Colleges are becoming radical. The left openly uses violence to silence opposition
Then whacko shoots up congressional baseball practice.

If this guy turns out to be some recently converted hardcore left activist....man that opens pandoras box.

If you pay attention, it is the alt-left whacko's in the media that refer to the victims as Trump supporters. Talk about bigots! But I see what you mean. Could be a modern day beginning of the inevitable upcoming civil war.

 

[ECU Pirates]

Arm the nation!

Police took 72 minutes from first emergency call to reach Las Vegas shooter

I read the first group of officers reached him (officers armed with rifles) and didn't make entry. They waited for SWAT. The Israelis do this stuff right. They don't wait.

 

[ECU Pirates]

Who is this woman warning people? Is there a link? I don't have time to search all 17 pages.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

Who is this woman warning people? Is there a link? I don't have time to search all 17 pages.

She is one of the extremely unsubstantiated rumors/theories just like the previous 16 pages.

 

[Marine Cpl]

She is one of the extremely unsubstantiated rumors/theories just like the previous 16 pages.

Many eyewitnesses who were interviewed on the news described her. Unless they were all in on it to give that description to various news outlets.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ttack-brianna-hendricks-marilou-a7978821.html

 

[Phazer]

Well, here's the "explosive" that was found at the murderer's house: A reactive target.

Investigators Probe Las Vegas Shooter’s Motive

The 64-year-old also had a large stockpile of ammunition and an explosive that detonates when shot by bullets in his home, authorities said.​

 

[Airborneguy]

I read the first group of officers reached him (officers armed with rifles) and didn't make entry. They waited for SWAT. The Israelis do this stuff right. They don't wait.

Depends on the department. Our active shooter training is first one there, go in to end the killing. They even mention the fact that most active shooters kill themselves when confronted with cops.

 

[BerettaGuy]

Although the Pink pussy hat video has been removed, Here is a good recap of what it was all about.
Footage of Vegas Attacker Stephen Paddock at an Anti-Trump Protest - Geller Report

 

[ECU Pirates]

Depends on the department. Our active shooter training is first one there, go in to end the killing. They even mention the fact that most active shooters kill themselves when confronted with cops.

That's how it should work. Let the coward kill himself quicker. They had rifles. NYPD needs to wake up and get patrol rifles for the rank and file.

 

[tirwin1]

From the article:

"It is believed the man seen in this video is the las vegas shooter, Stephen Paddock, attending an anti-trump protest in Reno Nevada in August 2017."

Not proven. Not confirmed by any official source. Just a "belief" and some photos attempting to show the ear of one picture matches the ear of the other. I would not call that convincing. Doesn't mean he wasn't there. Just means it hasn't been confirmed.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

She is one of the extremely unsubstantiated rumors/theories just like the previous 16 pages.

Las Vegas shooting: Crowd 'warned you're all going to die'

 

[Marine Cpl]

That's how it should work. Let the coward kill himself quicker. They had rifles. NYPD needs to wake up and get patrol rifles for the rank and file.

No.

 

[ECU Pirates]

No.

Yes.

 

[Robin]

We don't know this Paddock guy did it, we know he is being named as the most likely suspect based on the evidence put forth to the public. We really don't know anything.
Robin

 

[Airborneguy]

NYPD needs to wake up and get patrol rifles for the rank and file.

Yeah right. I’m lucky we got vests with a thin plate. And flashlights last week. So stupid. At least give Sgts rifles.

 

[Robin]

Yeah right. I’m lucky we got vests with a thin plate. And flashlights last week. So stupid. At least give Sgts rifles.

HAH! You're lucky DeBlousio doesn't take all your guns and make you wear funny hats!!!
Probably let you have a whistle though.
Robin

 

[meketrefe]

And the crap continues:

House Speaker and full blown RINO Paul Ryan, who has his own leadership security detail, and a big wall around his home in Janesville, WI has just announced that he is shelving the SHARE Bill HR 3668 indefinitely as he agrees with the Hildabeast! What a god damn traitorous cocksucker he is.

And he has also held up HR 38 National Reciprocity even though it has 212 cosponsors, with only 218 needed to pass the house! Fucker has to go!

Paul Ryan Sides with Hillary: Shelves Bill to Deregulate Suppressors - Breitbart

It seems like what happens in Vegas doesn't stay in Vegas after all.
The political elite are not going to miss any opportunity to further the agenda to disarm the population.
What I want to know is what trump is going to do about these goons. We put him in there remember?
We don't need no stinky politicians. I want to see some executive orders to start bullet proofing fundamental rights.

This thug was a pilot right? Imagine if he had gone kamikaze with a plane full of gasoline and explosives.

We need to demand that Trump starts to take some action and deliver on his promise to protect the 2A.

He has to do something and the time is now.

....
on a side note.. I think the slide fire stock is retarded and certainly useless. if people think this made a difference they are wrong.

 

[Catskillkid]

It seems like what happens in Vegas doesn't stay in Vegas after all.
The political elite are not going to miss any opportunity to further the agenda to disarm the population.
What I want to know is what trump is going to do about these goons. We put him in there remember?
We don't need no stinky politicians. I want to see some executive orders to start bullet proofing fundamental rights.

This thug was a pilot right? Imagine if he had gone kamikaze with a plane full of gasoline and explosives.

We need to demand that Trump starts to take some action and deliver on his promise to protect the 2A.

He has to do something and the time is now.

....
on a side note.. I think the slide fire stock is retarded and certainly useless. if people think this made a difference they are wrong.

I was wondering this very thing. He supposedly owned several planes. Even if they were small, why didn't he load them up with explosives or just simply fly them into a building/crowd, etc. The damage would have been even greater. Probably easier then smuggling 10 guns up into a hotel room.

This whole thing is whack and doesn't make any sense.

 

[Defilade]

Here you go. Antifa=ISIS

Report: Antifa Receiving Military Training in Syria – Vegas Shooter’s Girlfriend Travelled to Middle East

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

Many eyewitnesses who were interviewed on the news described her. Unless they were all in on it to give that description to various news outlets.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ttack-brianna-hendricks-marilou-a7978821.html

Las Vegas shooting: Crowd 'warned you're all going to die'

Yup. Just another witness account in the sea of witness accounts. Like some people saying the shooting went on for 5 mins while others said 30mins. The shooter from the 4th floor, black ops etc etc. Without solid evidence this is all just he said she said.

 

[meketrefe]

If it is in infowars it must be true!

 

[meketrefe]

Yup. Just another witness account in the sea of witness accounts. Like some people saying the shooting went on for 5 mins while others said 30mins. The shooter from the 4th floor, black ops etc etc. Without solid evidence this is all just he said she said.

I bet you some of the very drunk people saw at least two shooters.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Yup. Just another witness account in the sea of witness accounts. Like some people saying the shooting went on for 5 mins while others said 30mins. The shooter from the 4th floor, black ops etc etc. Without solid evidence this is all just he said she said.

So which items of the story fed to you do you deem correct?

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

So which items of the story fed to you do you deem correct?

There was a shooting in Las Vegas. That's all I'm willing to believe on face value.