uuum? Can Muslims be good American's....

[Jmac00]

Nope, they can not!

Joseph Matteo, Can Muslims Be ‘Good Americans
The Immigration and Nationality Act passed June 27, 1952 revised the laws relating to immigration, naturalization, and nationality for the United States. That act, which became Public Law 414, established both the law and the intent of Congress regarding the immigration of Aliens to the US and remains in effect today. Among the many issues it covers, one in particular, found in Chapter 2
Section 212, (28), (F) is the prohibition of entry to the US if the Alien belongs to an organization seeking to overthrow the government of the United States by 'force, violence, or other unconstitutional means.' This, by its very definition, rules out Islamic immigration to the United States. Islamic immigration to the US would be prohibited under this law because the Koran, Sharia Law and the Hadith all require complete submission to Islam, which is antithetical to the US government, the Constitution, and to the Republic. All Muslims who attest that the Koran is their life's guiding principal subscribe to submission to Islam and its form of government. Whether Islam is a religion is immaterial because the law states that Aliens who are affiliated with any "organization" that advocates the overthrow of our government are prohibited." The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
Can a Muslim be a good American?
Theologically - no, because his allegiance is to Allah.
no, because he must submit to the mullahs (spiritual leaders) who teach the annihilation of Israel and the destruction of America, the great Satan.no, because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.no, because when we declare 'one nation under God,' we are referring to the Christian's God and not Allah.They obviously cannot be both 'good' Muslims and good Americans/Canadians; they cannot and will not integrate into the great melting pot of America.

This makes an interesting point. Something I have been saying all along Muslims don't assimilate into other countries and cultures, they take over!

 

[prambo]

Only on teevee.

 

[Darth]

The constitution is based on biblical principals?

Good one.

 

[wizrd]

The literal translation of 'islam' is - 'submit'.

 

[Darth]

The literal translation of 'islam' is - 'submit'.

Oh, maybe I should be a Muslim!

But yeah, don't forget that whole "wives must submit to their husbands as to the Lord" thing.

 

[Deplorable Me]

Oh, maybe I should be a Muslim!

But yeah, don't forget that whole "wives must submit to their husbands as to the Lord" thing.

You can tell your wife to warm up the ewe.

 

[GOPerfect]

The constitution is based on biblical principals?

Good one.

You always add so much to these types of conversations.

Not. Like a broken record. Blah, blah, blah all the time.

 

[Darth]

You always add so much to these types of conversations.

Not. Like a broken record. Blah, blah, blah all the time.

You expected anything of substance from a thread titled "can Muslims be good Americans?"

I understand the truth hurts, and you can't take off the hypocrisy blindfold, but come on.

 

[GTN]

You always add so much to these types of conversations.

Not. Like a broken record. Blah, blah, blah all the time.

I think you mean ba, ba ba ba ba

 

[E the massive]

 

[GOPerfect]

You expected anything of substance from a thread titled "can Muslims be good Americans?"

I understand the truth hurts, and you can't take off the hypocrisy blindfold, but come on.

Just curious, what truth are you taking about?

 

[Deplorable Me]

I've worked with and known former Muslims from years ago who left their countries to avoid religious persecution by their own. This is about 20 years ago. If you're really bad as a Catholic you get ex-communicated. As a member of Islam you get stoned, lashes or beheaded.

 

[Mr. terzmo]

I've worked with and known former Muslims from years ago who left their countries to avoid religious persecution by their own. This is about 20 years ago. If you're really bad as a Catholic you get ex-communicated. As a member of Islam you get stoned, lashes or beheaded.

Former Muslims ?? They convert to Baptist or something ? Isn't something like ..eliminate the infedels the motto ?

 

[Darth]

Just curious, what truth are you taking about?

The same "Muslims R Da bad religion, Christians R Da good ones" trope is a hilarious lie.

 

[E the massive]

The same "Muslims R Da bad religion, Christians R Da good ones" trope is a hilarious lie.

In your opinion.

 

[Jmac00]

You expected anything of substance from a thread titled "can Muslims be good Americans?"

I understand the truth hurts, and you can't take off the hypocrisy blindfold, but come on.

the truth is, under Christian values you are free to do what you want (to an extent) But under Muslim values (Sharia Law) you, and more importantly, your wife and daughters are pretty much fucked....literally.

 

[GOPerfect]

I'm not saying one is bad and the others are good....

I do not follow herder religions. I do all I can to learn about them. I try to understand them.

I have traveled the world pretty extensively. I have seen first hand how bad some groups can be. I am not better because I have seen the evil, I just know what I have experience in. There are indeed entire groups of people that, because of their core beliefs, cannot live peacefully under our constitution and our way of life.

 

[Darth]

the truth is, under Christian values you are free to do what you want (to an extent) But under Muslim values (Sharia Law) you, and more importantly, your wife and daughters are pretty much fucked....literally.

Really?

So can I have sex before marriage or with multiple women? And film it? Oh my, that's 2 broken law I've done this year.

All Christians do is the EXACT same thing as Muslims. Pick and choose the "love thy neighbor" stuff, and conveniently ignore that both religions call for killing nonbelievers in their doctrine.

Whoops.

 

[Curmudgeon]

the truth is, under Christian values you are free to do what you want (to an extent)

This I disagree with. The fact you qualified it parenthetically makes me think you do too.

 

[Darth]

I'm not saying one is bad and the others are good....

I do not follow herder religions. I do all I can to learn about them. I try to understand them.

I have traveled the world pretty extensively. I have seen first hand how bad some groups can be. I am not better because I have seen the evil, I just know what I have experience in. There are indeed entire groups of people that, because of their core beliefs, cannot live peacefully under our constitution and our way of life.

So true. There are groups that think atheists in this country shouldn't even be citizens.

But that old fart is worm food now, so that's nice.

 

[Curmudgeon]

Really?

So can I have sex before marriage or with multiple women? And film it? Oh my, that's 2 broken law I've done this year.

All Christians do is the EXACT same thing as Muslims. Pick and choose the "love thy neighbor" stuff, and conveniently ignore that both religions call for killing nonbelievers in their doctrine.

Whoops.

They only recently banned the filming piece. The bible couldn't have expected video cameras or the internet.

 

[Curmudgeon]

So true. There are groups that think atheists in this country shouldn't even be citizens.

But that old fart is worm food now, so that's nice.

Bush 41?

 

[Mr. terzmo]

Really?

So can I have sex before marriage or with multiple women? And film it? Oh my, that's 2 broken law I've done this year.

All Christians do is the EXACT same thing as Muslims. Pick and choose the "love thy neighbor" stuff, and conveniently ignore that both religions call for killing nonbelievers in their doctrine.

Whoops.

The furher does all of the above

 

[Darth]

They only recently banned the filming piece. The bible couldn't have expected video cameras or the internet.

Is have to have sex in the public square at the time.

That's fine.

You know, I've never tried a crucifixion myself, but the studio does have a cross...maybe Jesus was on to something.

 

[Curmudgeon]

Is have to have sex in the public square at the time.

That's fine.

You know, I've never tried a crucifixion myself, but the studio does have a cross...maybe Jesus was on to something.

I think you should just go the Michael Hutchence route.

 

[SomeSoldier]

Really?

So can I have sex before marriage or with multiple women? And film it? Oh my, that's 2 broken law I've done this year.

All Christians do is the EXACT same thing as Muslims. Pick and choose the "love thy neighbor" stuff, and conveniently ignore that both religions call for killing nonbelievers in their doctrine.

Whoops.

Please show me where it says to kill not believers in the Bible.

 

[repete]

Yes they can, BUT a 'good' muslim can't! What I mean is if they are strict in following their teachings then no they can't live in America under American law and be a strict muslim. If they are like most Americans and only go to church for weddings and funerals but yet still believe in god then yes I believe they can do well here. The real problem is that they can't really be muslim 'light'.

 

[Deplorable Me]

Former Muslims ?? They convert to Baptist or something ? Isn't something like ..eliminate the infedels the motto ?

More like athiest and agnostics. Sick of a crazy religion. Sort of like former NRA members .

 

[Darth]

Please show me where it says to kill not believers in the Bible.

Do you want just one?

Bible Gateway passage: 2 Chronicles 15:13 - English Standard Version

 

[Darth]

Too bad the post about "white knighting for Islam" disappeared. That looked like fun.