Election Coverage And Results Thread
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livingston
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Sydney said last week most of the country was compromised ... We would need a new election
kev74
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holdover
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Top 3 democratic Senators warned about Dominion voting
counting technology could switch the outcome of elections,
( including Sens. Elizabeth Warren (MA), Amy Klobuchar (MN), and Ron Wyden (OR)
They wrote a letter about thier concerns in Dec 2019.
December 6, 2019
Sarni Mnaymneh Founder and Co-Chief Executive Officer H.l.G. Capital, LLC 1450 Brickell Avenue 3 lst Floor Miami, FL 33131
Tony Tamer Founder and Co-Chief Executive Officer H.I.G. Capital, LLC 1450 Brickell A venue 31st Floor Miami, FL 3 3131
Dear Messrs. Mnaymneh and Tamer: We are writing to request information regarding H.I.G. Capital's (H.1.G.) investment in Hart InterCivic Inc. (Hart InterCivic) one of three election technology vendors responsible for developing, manufacturing and maintaining the vast majority of voting machines and software in the United States, and to request information about your firm's structure and finances as it relates to this company. Some private equity funds operate under a model where they purchase controlling interests in companies and implement drastic cost-cutting measures at the expense of consumers, workers, communities, and taxpayers. Recent examples include Toys "R" Us and Shopko. 1 For that reason, we have concerns about the spread and effect of private equity investment in many sectors of the economy, including the election technology industry-an integral part of our nation's democratic process. We are particularly concerned that secretive and ''trouble-plagued companies,"2 owned by private equity firms and responsible for manufacturing and maintaining voting machines and other election administration equipment, "have long skimped on security in favor of convenience," leaving voting systems across the country "prone to security problems."3 In light of these concerns, we request that you provide information about your firm, the portfolio
companies in which it has invested, the performance of those investments, and the ownership and financial structure of your funds. Over the last two decades, the election technology industry has become highly concentrated, with a handful of consolidated vendors controlling the vast majority of the market. In the early 2000s, almost twenty vendors competed in the election technology market.4 Today, three large vendors-Election Systems & Software, Dominion Voting Systems, and Hart InterCiviccollectively provide voting machines and software that facilitate voting for over 90% of all eligible voters in the United States. 5 Private equity firms reportedly own or control each of these vendors, with very limited "information availabl~ in the public domain about their operations and financial perfonnance."6 While experts estimate that the total revenue for election technology vendors is about $300 million, there is no publicly available information on how much those vendors dedicate to research and development, maintenance of voting systems, or profits and executive compensation. 7 Concentration in the election technology market and the fact that vendors are often "more seasoned in voting machine and technical services contract negotiations" than local election officials, give these companies incredible power in their negotiations with local and state governments. As a result, jurisdictions are often caught in expensive agreements in which the same vendor both sells or leases, and repairs and maintains voting systems-leaving local officials dependent on the vendor, and the vendor with little incentive to substantially overhaul and improve its products.8 In fact, the Election Assistance Commission (EAC), the primary federal body responsible for developing voluntary guidance on voting technology standards, advises state and local officials to consider "the cost to purchase or lease, operate, and maintain a voting system over its life span .. . [and to] know how the vendor(s) plan to be profitable" when signing contracts, because vendors typically make their profits by ensuring ''that they will be around to maintain it after the sale.'' The EAC has warned election officials that "f you do not manage the vendors, they will manage you." 9 Election security experts have noted for years that our nation's election systems and infrastructure are under serious threat. In January 2017, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security designated the United States' election infrastructure as "critical infrastructure" in order to prioritize the protection of our elections and to more effectively assist state and local election
officials in addressing these risks. 10 However, voting machines are reportedly falling apart across the country, as vendors neglect to innovate and improve important voting systems, putting our elections at avoidable and increased risk. 11 In 2015, election officials in at least 31 states, representing approximately 40 million registered voters, reported that their voting machines needed to be updated, with almost every state "using some machines that are no longer manufactured."12 Moreover, even when state and local officials work on replacing antiquated machines, many continue to "run on old software that will soon be outdated and more vulnerable to hackers."13 In 2018 alone "voters in South Carolina [were] reporting machines that switched their votes after they'd inputted them, scanners [were] rejecting paper ballots in Missouri, and busted machines [were] causing long lines in Indiana."14 In addition, researchers recently uncovered previously undisclosed vulnerabilities in "nearly three dozen backend election systems in 10 states."15 And, just this year, after the Democratic candidate's electronic tally showed he received an improbable 164 votes out of 55,000 cast in a Pennsylvania state judicial election in 2019, the county's Republican Chairwoman said, " [ n ]othing went right on Election Day. Everything went wrong. That's a problem."16 These problems threaten the integrity of our elections and demonstrate the importance of election systems that are strong, durable, and not vulnerable to attack. H.1.G. reportedly owns or has had investments in Hart InterCivic, a major election technology vendor. In order to help us understand your firm's role in this sector, we ask that you provide answers to the following questions no later than December 20, 2019. 1. Please provide the disclosure documents and information enumerated in Sections 501 and 503 of the Stop Wall Street Looting Act. 17 2. Which election technology companies, including all affiliates or related entities, does H.I.G. have a stake in or own? Please provide the name of and a brief description of the services each company provides. 10 Department ofHomeland Security, "Statement by Secretary Jeh Johnson on the Designation of Election
counting technology could switch the outcome of elections,
( including Sens. Elizabeth Warren (MA), Amy Klobuchar (MN), and Ron Wyden (OR)
They wrote a letter about thier concerns in Dec 2019.
December 6, 2019
Sarni Mnaymneh Founder and Co-Chief Executive Officer H.l.G. Capital, LLC 1450 Brickell Avenue 3 lst Floor Miami, FL 33131
Tony Tamer Founder and Co-Chief Executive Officer H.I.G. Capital, LLC 1450 Brickell A venue 31st Floor Miami, FL 3 3131
Dear Messrs. Mnaymneh and Tamer: We are writing to request information regarding H.I.G. Capital's (H.1.G.) investment in Hart InterCivic Inc. (Hart InterCivic) one of three election technology vendors responsible for developing, manufacturing and maintaining the vast majority of voting machines and software in the United States, and to request information about your firm's structure and finances as it relates to this company. Some private equity funds operate under a model where they purchase controlling interests in companies and implement drastic cost-cutting measures at the expense of consumers, workers, communities, and taxpayers. Recent examples include Toys "R" Us and Shopko. 1 For that reason, we have concerns about the spread and effect of private equity investment in many sectors of the economy, including the election technology industry-an integral part of our nation's democratic process. We are particularly concerned that secretive and ''trouble-plagued companies,"2 owned by private equity firms and responsible for manufacturing and maintaining voting machines and other election administration equipment, "have long skimped on security in favor of convenience," leaving voting systems across the country "prone to security problems."3 In light of these concerns, we request that you provide information about your firm, the portfolio
companies in which it has invested, the performance of those investments, and the ownership and financial structure of your funds. Over the last two decades, the election technology industry has become highly concentrated, with a handful of consolidated vendors controlling the vast majority of the market. In the early 2000s, almost twenty vendors competed in the election technology market.4 Today, three large vendors-Election Systems & Software, Dominion Voting Systems, and Hart InterCiviccollectively provide voting machines and software that facilitate voting for over 90% of all eligible voters in the United States. 5 Private equity firms reportedly own or control each of these vendors, with very limited "information availabl~ in the public domain about their operations and financial perfonnance."6 While experts estimate that the total revenue for election technology vendors is about $300 million, there is no publicly available information on how much those vendors dedicate to research and development, maintenance of voting systems, or profits and executive compensation. 7 Concentration in the election technology market and the fact that vendors are often "more seasoned in voting machine and technical services contract negotiations" than local election officials, give these companies incredible power in their negotiations with local and state governments. As a result, jurisdictions are often caught in expensive agreements in which the same vendor both sells or leases, and repairs and maintains voting systems-leaving local officials dependent on the vendor, and the vendor with little incentive to substantially overhaul and improve its products.8 In fact, the Election Assistance Commission (EAC), the primary federal body responsible for developing voluntary guidance on voting technology standards, advises state and local officials to consider "the cost to purchase or lease, operate, and maintain a voting system over its life span .. . [and to] know how the vendor(s) plan to be profitable" when signing contracts, because vendors typically make their profits by ensuring ''that they will be around to maintain it after the sale.'' The EAC has warned election officials that "f you do not manage the vendors, they will manage you." 9 Election security experts have noted for years that our nation's election systems and infrastructure are under serious threat. In January 2017, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security designated the United States' election infrastructure as "critical infrastructure" in order to prioritize the protection of our elections and to more effectively assist state and local election
officials in addressing these risks. 10 However, voting machines are reportedly falling apart across the country, as vendors neglect to innovate and improve important voting systems, putting our elections at avoidable and increased risk. 11 In 2015, election officials in at least 31 states, representing approximately 40 million registered voters, reported that their voting machines needed to be updated, with almost every state "using some machines that are no longer manufactured."12 Moreover, even when state and local officials work on replacing antiquated machines, many continue to "run on old software that will soon be outdated and more vulnerable to hackers."13 In 2018 alone "voters in South Carolina [were] reporting machines that switched their votes after they'd inputted them, scanners [were] rejecting paper ballots in Missouri, and busted machines [were] causing long lines in Indiana."14 In addition, researchers recently uncovered previously undisclosed vulnerabilities in "nearly three dozen backend election systems in 10 states."15 And, just this year, after the Democratic candidate's electronic tally showed he received an improbable 164 votes out of 55,000 cast in a Pennsylvania state judicial election in 2019, the county's Republican Chairwoman said, " [ n ]othing went right on Election Day. Everything went wrong. That's a problem."16 These problems threaten the integrity of our elections and demonstrate the importance of election systems that are strong, durable, and not vulnerable to attack. H.1.G. reportedly owns or has had investments in Hart InterCivic, a major election technology vendor. In order to help us understand your firm's role in this sector, we ask that you provide answers to the following questions no later than December 20, 2019. 1. Please provide the disclosure documents and information enumerated in Sections 501 and 503 of the Stop Wall Street Looting Act. 17 2. Which election technology companies, including all affiliates or related entities, does H.I.G. have a stake in or own? Please provide the name of and a brief description of the services each company provides. 10 Department ofHomeland Security, "Statement by Secretary Jeh Johnson on the Designation of Election
Dr. Evil
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Life imitates art.
livingston
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Notice not a word....Cannot wait until she gets called on to the stand and questioned by Sydney....
holdover
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Thats the goal, if neither candidate receives 270 electoral votes...we go to the 12th and the House decides.
Watching Nancy’s head explode when she has to announce Trump won in the House vote would be glorious.
That makes perfect sense! Never has a President in history received the support Trump did..Not one!
Phazer
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Skynet Introduces New Line Of Voting Machines
MENLO PARK, CA—It's looking increasingly likely that Trump's lawsuits won't change the results of the election, and that his claims about fraudulent voting and suspicious voting machines won't swing the election in his favor.
babylonbee.com
By what measure?
spat
.950 JDJ
Votes ?
Trump got more votes in 2020 than any President in history.
And that's not counting the ones that ended up in a dumpster instead of a counting table.
kev74
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Just the magnitude of Rallies, Car parades, Boat Parades. Hell I have even seen a tractor parade. His merchandise I'll bet sold more then some sports stars. Crazy amount of support. Can't think of one President that came close.
Rd
I’ve said this before, but that’s all anecdotal. Also, most of these activities were taking place in states that were solidly red.
I’ve said this before, but that’s all anecdotal. Also, most of these activities were taking place in states that were solidly red.
Dr. Evil
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Not to mention the votes that probably went from Trump to Biden by, um, glitches.
Sure, that's true... but it's just leaving out the part that the other guy got more....
Haven't seen anything that proves or is strong evidence of that claim.
spat
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You'll never see evidence you're unwilling to look at.
I'll give you that for sure, I can't recall a larger raw number of people participating in boat parades etc. in my lifetime. Certainly seems that many of the people who like Trump, *really* like Trump.
Dr. Evil
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FEC Chairman: If Sidney Powell Says There Was Rampant Voter Fraud, ‘I Believe Her’
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Dr. Evil
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There are plenty that look but don't see.
Dr. Evil
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I'm willing to look at things, just everything I've seen seems way too conspiracy theory-ish without enough verifiable facts for me to take it as credible. Many of Trumps lawsuits regarding the election are getting dismissed because when it comes time to put up proof in court they can't.
Throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks makes me distrust the people doing it. If you want me to believe you, don't throw anything and everything up. Really work at a few cases with your strongest evidence and battle those out. Pick strong cases, not everything. In general I feel that people who throw anything at the courts are desperate, and they're desperate because they're losing (not talking specifically Trump here, more in general).
spat
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In general you would be correct, but the compressed time frame in these election lawsuits means that they probably had to file *everything* right now, before they even knew themselves what was legitimate.
If they had waited to vet all the claims they would have missed critical filing deadlines.
Dr. Evil
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I may be wrong but I believe they are doing just this. I suppose time will tell and everything else is speculation and hearsay.
stokes
.338 Win Mag
Not just a case of *really* liking Trump.I dont necessarily like the man or his manners,but his policies.Its more that we *really* hate commies.I have to admit, tho, that I do like the way his twitter posts (Trumps) make you libs heads explode.The last four years have been quite entertaining.
stokes
.338 Win Mag
This 100%
pjzwtl
.308 Win
Or worse.. don’t care
Blimey
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I know this may make me sound bipolar but despite my view that this dominion stuff is a red herring I was rather disheartened and also a bit shocked to find out that these machines are in some cases actually accessible to the internet. The intent of that is to aggregate results quickly of course. If done properly there would be ways for them to reliably get online with complete security, but it would be so much easier to never build network ports into them at all and remove the risk altogether.