HOGWASH AND POPPYCOCK, are you blind sir? Some of us here have proved it to be the case... ... but I do get the rest of what you are saying...
D.C. "Stop the Steal" 1/5/21 & 1/6/21 protests
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HOGWASH AND POPPYCOCK, are you blind sir? Some of us here have proved it to be the case... ... but I do get the rest of what you are saying...
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
Folded like a house of cards. Fuck her.
People who say this wasn't the hill to die on, will not die on any hill. They will always find an argument for proverbial frog to stay in the boiling pot.
Any future leader who will call to arms will be promptly smeared, false flagged, discredited and taken down. Our alphabet agencies have 100% success record doing that. It was hard to do that to a POTUS, they still managed. Trump didn't even issues a call to arms.
We are going to have a bunch of political rallies, where we will be told to vote and contribute and then told to get lost.
Republican party benefits from butt-hurt base, there is no incentive for them to do anything except talk. They benefit every time there is a successful attack on American way of life and common values. When Democrats are doing that, Republicans are quietly rubbing their hands together in joy.
This is why I gave up on the system. I am not going to knock people who stormed the Capitol. I admire them for having the fire that no longer is burning inside me. I will say it again GOD BLESS THEM.
Any future leader who will call to arms will be promptly smeared, false flagged, discredited and taken down. Our alphabet agencies have 100% success record doing that. It was hard to do that to a POTUS, they still managed. Trump didn't even issues a call to arms.
We are going to have a bunch of political rallies, where we will be told to vote and contribute and then told to get lost.
Republican party benefits from butt-hurt base, there is no incentive for them to do anything except talk. They benefit every time there is a successful attack on American way of life and common values. When Democrats are doing that, Republicans are quietly rubbing their hands together in joy.
This is why I gave up on the system. I am not going to knock people who stormed the Capitol. I admire them for having the fire that no longer is burning inside me. I will say it again GOD BLESS THEM.
So now we have it. Many of you were pushing for this rally. Many of you push for just this type of protest. "The blood of tyrants, blood of patriots" etc. and when this rally turned violent, deadly, you now want to blame it on antifa! Is that what I'm hearing? Please! That's bullshit!
Who made the suggestion to go to the Capital building? Trump did. Trump fired them up, told them he would go with them to the Capitol. "If you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country. Let the weak ones get out It's time for strength" Guilani said "Let's have trial by combat."
No this is exactly what you wanted.
Who made the suggestion to go to the Capital building? Trump did. Trump fired them up, told them he would go with them to the Capitol. "If you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country. Let the weak ones get out It's time for strength" Guilani said "Let's have trial by combat."
No this is exactly what you wanted.
livingston
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Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
I went to every rally in Albany during the Safe Act. Got us nowhere. A rally is mainly helpful for people to be inspired and feel like they aren't alone so they don't eventually give up all hope IMHO. They typically don't accomplish much else in this country. In saying this would you have written the same post if ANTIFA was bused in to Albany like they were in DC and caused the same mayhem?
Every rally has disguised saboteurs, but most of the people who stormed the Capitol were genuine protesters. That woman who was murdered inside the Capitol, was she Antifa? Why agitate people into action and then abandon them? This is classic American Conservatism? Just talk and throw overboard those who act.
drowhawk
.44 mag
What you're not reading about during this media blackout (because that's what it is) is the fact that every major city had protests and some stormed the houses of state officials. If the protests keep up, I have no doubt Biden will use this to invoke the insurrection act or at the very least, to disarm the public through EO. I'm no conspiracy theorist, I think everyone here knows that by now. I do however believe that things are not as they seem and that this is only the beginning of the biggest shit show in American history.
Blimey
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Because Trump doesn't give a shit about these people. They are tools for his ego.
He frothed the crowd up yesterday, told them to walk on the capital, said he'd be there with them, and instead he just fucked off in his motorcade. He's realizing today he has no friends left. Even many of the diehards are abandoning him. It's over for him. His political future is kaput as well. No 2024 nomination for him that is for damn sure.
drowhawk
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Well, $1/round 9mm ball ammo was fun while it lasted. I'm going to have a solid retirement in my gun safe by the end of Biden's term.
Nice straman you build here...
You are fine tooth combing this and adding 2 issues together.
Andy & Annie TeaFa like antagonists were there for sure and did some of the damage and primed a pump. But also this was a direct result of pent up frustrations. It is not a one or the other, BOTH HAPPENED to deny that is disingenuous.
Again, whatever may or may not be tge case regarding agent provocateurs is irrelevant. It does seem to be the case that whoever entered the building were allowed to by Capitol police to create a photo op. As I said, the establishment will create whatever excuses they need. Who did the storming and why isn't the issue here. The fact that people are extremely angry about being ignored and exploited is. What we need to focus on is what will do in response to tge incoming oppressive legislation. We cannot continue to be silent. We cannot continue to take "The High Road". We have to get down and dirty. We have to make some serious noise, in the streets. We must become and unruly and ungovernable mass. We are going to have to take cues from the leftist playbooks.
I can't hardly belive it but I agree with many of the points @Mosinitis has made above.
I can't hardly belive it but I agree with many of the points @Mosinitis has made above.
drowhawk
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Mark my words: the second that these people have any semblance of being organized the communications will be shut down or severely restricted. If you think the people are going to take back their gov't relying on the cellular infrastructure, you're wrong.
Phazer
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Alternatives always exist. Alt tech exists. Where there is a will there is a way.
prambo
.475 A&M Magnum
This was a setup right from the minute it was announced, just like Charlottesville. That was a given.
Many in Antifa/Black Bloc/BurnLootMurder are trained and street seasoned Maoist/Anarchist shock troops - what do you think Portland, Seattle, Berkeley, etc were about? This was OJT at first, and then their version of AIT.
Anarchy prepares the usually restricted battlespace of a protest into an environment where "regular" protesters, regardless of dedication to being peaceful, are surrounded by a level of agitation and chaos they are not prepared for. These are the sincere but hopelessly naive people who thinks the extreme left is adherent to "gentlemanly" behavior.
It is obvious that this is almost assuredly what happened. Once the chaos starts, all bets are off, and the provocateurs can operate with impunity, generating an environment in which more violence is possible.
Lenin did not initially command a large army in Retrograde in 1917. But they were good at agitation and fomenting chaos and anarchy.
Regardless of where the blame lies - and their are plenty of people who share any blame - the die is cast.
The rollout of draconian laws will start immediately after, if not on, 20 JAN.
Where will the fUSA end up? Anyone's guess is as good as mine. All empires collapse, ours had started.
The only consolation is that the left always eats their own.
Many in Antifa/Black Bloc/BurnLootMurder are trained and street seasoned Maoist/Anarchist shock troops - what do you think Portland, Seattle, Berkeley, etc were about? This was OJT at first, and then their version of AIT.
Anarchy prepares the usually restricted battlespace of a protest into an environment where "regular" protesters, regardless of dedication to being peaceful, are surrounded by a level of agitation and chaos they are not prepared for. These are the sincere but hopelessly naive people who thinks the extreme left is adherent to "gentlemanly" behavior.
It is obvious that this is almost assuredly what happened. Once the chaos starts, all bets are off, and the provocateurs can operate with impunity, generating an environment in which more violence is possible.
Lenin did not initially command a large army in Retrograde in 1917. But they were good at agitation and fomenting chaos and anarchy.
Regardless of where the blame lies - and their are plenty of people who share any blame - the die is cast.
The rollout of draconian laws will start immediately after, if not on, 20 JAN.
Where will the fUSA end up? Anyone's guess is as good as mine. All empires collapse, ours had started.
The only consolation is that the left always eats their own.
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Doc8404
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LMFAO.
worthless FBI already determined no evidence of Antifa involvement.
worthless FBI already determined no evidence of Antifa involvement.
Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
So is the Federal Bureau of Instigation conceding the cited provocateurs were not Antifa but their Agents?
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
Been thinking the following. Many are crying that violence isn't the answer. I agree yet am torn a bit. Yes, if there was a way to accomplish things without it life would be great. I do find it pretty stark that those politicians that are condemning the violence are also many that are too afraid to stand for the constitution, do the right thing and save this country because they fear the violent reaction from the left as a consequence. Just look at the tactics of the left over the past few years, this past year in particular, that has put them where they are currently politically. While I am not calling for violence it seems to have worked out pretty well for the left.
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spat
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There is a caveat.
They work when they have unconditional support from all the major media.
That is necessary.
The far left now fully controls the narrative that most of the country hears. I don't think you can overcome that without replacing *them*.
Phazer
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The model has been set.
All future protests by constitutionalists who speak out against the Liberal Progressives will be infiltrated by disguised Leftists who act violently. In turn, organizations that stand against the tyranny of the Left will be "shown" to be violent extremists.
The mainstream media will incessantly report about the "hard right domestic terrorists" who must be dealt with.
All future protests by constitutionalists who speak out against the Liberal Progressives will be infiltrated by disguised Leftists who act violently. In turn, organizations that stand against the tyranny of the Left will be "shown" to be violent extremists.
The mainstream media will incessantly report about the "hard right domestic terrorists" who must be dealt with.