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holdover said:
pretty grainy

Heres the video , your 100% convinced this is a rifle?

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I’ve watched the video, that was a screen shot from it, so yes it’s noisy. I’m never 100% convinced of anything, but yes, to me it looks like a rifle covered in a towel.

I love a good conspiracy, lately most have been the truth. This just doesn’t scream government conspiracy to me, it was poorly planned, sloppy and the shooter is still alive.
 
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livingston said:
If the scope was removed and remounted after he was on the roof how true to center would it be when shot ? If it remained on the rifle shoved into the pants how true would the scope be true to center ? Scope would have been banged around a bit .
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The assumption/ speculation is he had the rifle shoved down his pants leg and covered by the sweatshirt and back going in; concealed and “normal” looking Going out wrapped in a towel blanket; speed of exit.
 
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Some people were trying to say he broke down the rifle and put it in the bag, why wouldnt he have done so when he was going there too? secondly were all pretty sure its not a break down rifle, 3rdly, Im supposed to believe he jumped off the roof and ran away from the crime scene and just decided to put it back together in the woods before he dumped it? And I dont want to hear about a friend who picked up the rifle after being tossed off the roof running to a car while everyone is looking around and dumping the rifle on the path the shooter took And If so then ya better make the arrest on the friend.

If one part of the story is bullshit, the whole story is bullshit,

If I can speculate I would entertain the possibility , that it wasnt this kid , it was a professional hit disguised as lone wolf amateur,

If I were going to set this thing up, all those videos would have been done days or weeks before, I would have made sure somebody saw a guy on the roof , days before, I would have made sure , I had pics of the shooter in the hallway , I would have a professional shooter hit him in the neck to make it looked like he almost missed , the real shooter would have been well inside the building, nobody is looking inside the building because the shooter jumped from the roof already, WHy write on the shells and never extract it? that was kinda the point of writing on them . The rifle was pre-planted in the woods .For all we know the kid wasnt even there, the only thing we have is the pics in the hallway which could have been taken weeks ago with a fudged time stamp . Nobody saw him there , only grainy video of him walking with a limp which may have been faked if it was even him to begin with . Who knows if this kid was supposed to show up but had a bad feeling about something and said fuck that , something is wrong here. Never showed up and fucked up the entire story, He was supposed to killed there by law enforcement.

Now the FBI has to explain why the rifle is in the woods and how the kid made it home that day and confirmation of what he did on that day and the last few days before his arrest.

I saw this kind of shit with the sandy hook shooting where the video evidence was contradicted by the eyewitness's and vice versa

One where barbra sibley said she heard shots and hid behind a fire truck , why was the fire truck there, and why wasnt the firetruck caught of video ? Why didnt gene rosen call the police when 5 terrified kids ran to his house and told them thier teacher was shot dead? I dont want to get into it but the whole story of what happened was bullshit.

Maybe Im way off course here, I dunno, but the whole thing is starting to look shady to me
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That whole Sandy Hook thing was shady, and they sued the shit out of Remington claiming their make you feel like a Man Ad and Jones for calling out the suspicious, coincidental, and obscured facts of the incident.

I'd hate to believe Our Government would have anything to do with Kirk's murder or the covering thereof, especially given the Republican/Conservatives holding charge, but stranger things have happened.
 
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Parzival said:
I’ve watched the video, that was a screen shot from it, so yes it’s noisy. I’m never 100% convinced of anything, but yes, to me it looks like a rifle covered in a towel.

I love a good conspiracy, lately most have been the truth. This just doesn’t scream government conspiracy to me, it was poorly planned, sloppy and the shooter is still alive.
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I too love a conspiracy, but not everything that happens or is discovered is one despite an ever increasing batting average...to me, jumping off a Roof that high up would be pretty hard to walk away from, but not impossible.
 
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Parzival said:
I’ve watched the video, that was a screen shot from it, so yes it’s noisy. I’m never 100% convinced of anything, but yes, to me it looks like a rifle covered in a towel.

I love a good conspiracy, lately most have been the truth. This just doesn’t scream government conspiracy to me, it was poorly planned, sloppy and the shooter is still alive.
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Fair enough, I can't say 100% it is or isn't, but I think it's always good to look close and question what were told
 
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BREAKING: Charlie Kirk Assassin Tyler Robinson Lived with his Transgender Partner – Partner is Cooperating with FBI​

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Criticalt said:
There are videos of him walking stiff legged onto campus with the rifle down his pants leg.
Also video of him jumping off roof, and running towards the woods where the rifle was found. Officials say there is more video from the surrounding area that has not been released. Its another "wait and see" thing.
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So why not take the same route off the roof as this commy Democrat assassin took to get on the roof?
 
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JunkBoxFull said:
"cleared the weapon" ABSOLUTELY CORRECT! Bolt should have been open. Where`s those other rounds, too.
Does that action length look pretty short to be a 30.06 caliber to you?
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It was reported the spent shell was still in the chamber.
My opinion, anyone with experience, who fires a bolt action rifle, would have ejected that round and left the action open.
 
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It was reported the spent shell was still in the chamber.
My opinion, anyone with experience, who fires a bolt action rifle, would have ejected that round and left the action open.
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Shell casings are evidence. I've seen mob documentaries where it's explained that's why revolvers were often used by hitmen.
 
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DoOver said:
That's a high roof, why not exit the same way he entered and blend in with the fleeing crowd?
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Speed vs stealth.

The sneakiest way up may not be the fastest way down.

He could take all the time he wanted to get up there without being seen. But once that shot went off he was on a very short clock to get away.

And an area that is obscured when everyone is 200 yards away listening to Charlie might suddenly be full of people when the whole crowd starts suddenly evacuating.

No good having 10 people whip out their phones while you're climbing down from a roof trying to get away after this.
 
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DoOver said:
That's a high roof, why not exit the same way he entered and blend in with the fleeing crowd?
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Humans, trained and untrained in high stress situations will react very differently, often irrationally, defying logical exits, which is why Plans are made, rehearsed, and executed without variance for maximum efficiency...We're (mostly) not wired to murder and when we do, strange things happen both physically and mentally, so much so that some are never "right" again.
 
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Would like to see the other side of the box. Perhaps has a sticker on it saying?
Kmart 30:06, box fits nice only need the cardboard insert.
 
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holdover said:
Means nothing, spend a day or 2 with intell officers and you will admit you shot kennedy

We have to look at the hard evidence only.
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Which is why "Guilty" Pleas in capital crimes are not accepted: Have to prove the accused committed the crime and isn't just taking the fall for it or actually not guilty or perhaps another crime.
 
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I've watched the grainy CCTV video and even went to a friends who upsampled the video to 4k and the kid clearly is wearing wide legged baggy pants. As he climbs over the edge of the roof, his left leg is un-naturally straight and remains straight as he hangs and lets go. On impact from the fall, his left leg is extended outward almost 180 degrees from the camera angle, partially hiding the left leg and his right leg absorbs all the impact of the fall. Adrenaline has kicked in and so no pain and he jogs/walks away almost at a normal stride. Later he is on a security camera from someones home clearly limping and favoring the leg that took the severe impact and that shoe print the FBI is talking about. All him. Not some magic sniper shot from maybe 140 yards. Runs home to his father and confesses all. His entire family conservative. Its not a sexy story. Now if he mysterious was found shot or dies in the coming days, only then will I allow my mind to wander into uncharted territory. Just following the facts as I have researched them. :beer: :salute:
 
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fresch said:
Would like to see the other side of the box. Perhaps has a sticker on it saying?
Kmart 30:06, box fits nice only need the cardboard insert.
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One would assume Forensics will check to verify the Rifle actually chambers, fires, and ballistically matches the Bullet (recovered?)
Any word of where and how the Rifle was obtained? Not that it really matters, but no stone shall remain unturned.
 
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I've watched the grainy CCTV video and even went to a friends who upsampled the video and the kid clearly is wearing wide legged baggy pants. As he climbs over the edge of the roof, his left leg is un-naturally straight and remains straight as he hangs and lets go. On impact from the fall, his left leg is extended outward almost 180 degrees from the camera angle and his right leg absorbs all the impact of the fall. Adrenaline has kicked in and so no pain and he jogs/walks away almost at a normal stride. Later he is on a security camera from someones home clearly limping and favoring the leg that took the severe impact and that shoe print the FBI is talking about. All him. Not some magic sniper shot from maybe 140 yards. Runs home to his father and confesses all. His entire family conservative. Its not a sexy story. Now if he mysterious was found shot or dies in the coming days, only then will I allow my mind to wander into uncharted territory. Just following the facts as I have researched them. :beer: :salute:
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After jumping from roof He full out sprints , Not to mention If he hit the ground with the rifle in his pants He most likely would have torn his pants wide open, and possibly dislocate his shoulder from the stock hitting him in the armpit, The FBI also said the video of him limping was prior to the shooting
 
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He may have dropped the rifle from the roof then jumped down and later retrieved it. Did they release the entire surveillance video from the moment he fired a shot?
 
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