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US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)
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Bigfoot
.475 A&M Magnum
President Trump is absolutely a political anomaly. The likes of which we will never see again.
And it’s a damn shame the press, the Fake News Media, is commie propaganda and refuses to cover him in a positive, or even in a fair way.
Bigfoot
.475 A&M Magnum
They were used to mostly ignoring the previous loser presidents, except for maybe some token stuff. President Trump will make them earn the title of allies.
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Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Correct, we do the same. We’re figuring out right now who is the least of our enemies and helping them overthrow Iran. We’ve don’t this numerous times and then abandon them creating a new enemy.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
We need more support not because we need the help but we need a unified front. This will do a lot of good for us and why should we be the only ones putting our resources on the line?
If this happened in Ukraine it would not have gone on as long as it did. I’m glad to see Trump forcing the other countries hands into assisting us.
Vapor
.308 Win
We produce the most oil in the world. 22% roughly. Canada is 5th or 6th producer.
There must be something in the supply chain or market I don't understand as to why the middle easts oil affects us so much.
There must be something in the supply chain or market I don't understand as to why the middle easts oil affects us so much.
Cavalry
.338 Win Mag
Global economy and futures
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Beerman
6.5 Creedmoor
“The enemy of my enemy is my friend.”
For the moment. We’ve seen this before, over and over again. It never lasts. When a band of merry cutthroats snuggle up knock over a stagecoach, it’s all yippee-kye-yay until the first double cross, then it’s every bandit for themselves.
It's the type of oil that makes the difference. There a 3 main kinds of crude oil. Not all refineries can handle them all. Most of the time a refinery is set up to handle just one type. You can't just switch types.
Why? Last time I checked the UK, etc. didn't bomb Iran. That's why. Even my 8 year old knows that if you spill the milk, you clean it up.
If America has America first, why can't the UK have UK first? Is spending a bunch of money on a war they didn't want beneficial for them? Nope, so why should they do it?
America doesn't get to just decide what's good for the rest of the world and then demand help for the decisions they made without the other countries agreeing. That would be like me buying some gym equipment, knocking on your door, and saying you are too fat, so I bought some exercise equipment for us to share so you need to give me your share of the cost.... all while never even talking to you about it or agreeing to share the equipment and purchase. You'd tell me to "fuck off", and you'd be right in doing so.
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Yes but trump can issue an executive order prohibiting oil exports. There would then be 2 markets for oil - a domestic one for us and a world one for everyone else. As we are mostly self sufficient I would expect a gap to open up with the domestic price lower than the world price.
stokes
.338 Win Mag
Thats fine, then we should consider the NATO agreements null and void, take all the arms, including nukes, that we gave them, empty our military bases in Gt Britain and leave them to become the radical muzzie future regime.
The NATO pact isn't about attacking other countries or forcing your will on them where all your allies are obligated to join in on the "fun". It's a defensive deterrent pact. The US attacked Iran, not the other way around.
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US refineries aren't equipped to process US produced oil.
stokes
.338 Win Mag
But how many times has Iran attacked the US via attacking our mid east interests and bases? This current affair is retribution for decades of abuse from these muzzie cockroaches. Fuck England, what do we do when they become a full fledged muzzie nation with nukes, our own nukes?
The US initiated it a long time ago. Turns out countries dont like when you fuck with their internal government and sovereignty. Who would have guessed?
The bad relationship began in 1953, when the C.I.A. engineered a coup to empower the shah as an absolute ruler by overthrowing Mohammad Mosaddegh, the prime minister who had moved to nationalize the oil industry.
You're cool with Iran working out a way to overthrow Trump and our government, right? Oh, you're not? Well, Shoe, meet foot.
stokes
.338 Win Mag
They reportedly tried, twice. If you want to trace history to set blame, lets go back to when Britain sliced up the entire mid east after WWII. You seem to have a great love for these muzzie scumbags, wouldnt you like to relocate to someplace where you can live under sharia law?
Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
I wondering how much money (and supplies/munitions) we're giving Israel so they can pick & choose the Iranian targets THEY want and are doing so independently of the US and our Plans?
Distasteful as it is, the majority of the Middle East and Southwest Asia IS radical Muslim WITH a Religious Agenda bent on killing , not just harming, but making people dead in the name of allah, yet the population is ho-hum, they haven't shot up my neighborhood yet, so I'm going to sit on the Fence and eat Milk-Toast.
There are a few that see it, many have lived and fought it, but that a reckoning is coming and it's going to suck.
spat
.950 JDJ
Yea, nobody is going to trust anyone in that arrangement. But the fact that they are even talking is huge.
If you remember Desert Storm, it was one of Bush's highest priorities to keep Isreal out of the fight because if they entered the rest of the Arabs would have taken off.
Now they're giving Isreal permission to use their airspace to launch attacks.
For sure, Iran's complete mismanagement of the situation is responsible for that, but it's still happening.
Yea, maybe once Iran is gone, they'll go right back to hating each other, but at least they have proven it's possible not to.
And without Iran stiring up every piece of shit in the whole Middle East, maybe things will finally get better over there.
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
So are we. See: NYC, Minnesota, Dearborn (MI)
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
As I've observed the strategy of the Islamic Republic in the past, they seem to have been saying: Don't you mess with us while we're developing our nuclear weapons, or we'll hurt you. And... when we get our nuclear weapons, we'll REALLY hurt you.
Our only option was to decide if we want to take a small hit or a devastating hit. The "Death to America" cult made conflict inevitable.
We're now going to have to pay short term for, hopefully, long term benefits.