Now they want muskets......

Saltwater60 · May 14, 2026

The link works. I’m not surprised honestly. States have been going after them for a while now. The shooting in Australia won’t help. NYS already regulates them. They are dumb and I have been waiting for them to go after pistols. Rifles are scary to the idiots but pistols kill the most. After rifles pistols are next.

Zerex · May 14, 2026

A 4473 is necessary in NYS already for primitive firearms, like Brown Bess, cap and ball, etc.

Do You Need a Background Check for a Muzzleloader in NY?

Understand New York’s nuanced firearm laws for muzzleloaders. Their unique legal status, distinct from modern guns, dictates purchase and possession requirements.

legalclarity.org

Robin · May 14, 2026

Fuck you New York!

My hill!
Robin

RedBreast21 · May 14, 2026

Anything that can threaten their power will be regulated out of possession for the subjects. :beer:

FP1201 · May 14, 2026

Zerex said:
A 4473 is necessary in NYS already for primitive firearms, like Brown Bess, cap and ball, etc.

Do You Need a Background Check for a Muzzleloader in NY?

Understand New York’s nuanced firearm laws for muzzleloaders. Their unique legal status, distinct from modern guns, dictates purchase and possession requirements.

legalclarity.org

While it might be used to process a Background Check against a "muzzleloader" because it asks the same information, technically a Form 4473 is a Federal Document and any use other than a NICS Check is prohibited*. The State level Background check administered by third party provider Tyler Technologies does NOT contact the FBI/NICS system for Black Powder Arms, instead uses the State's own system that's also used to Ammunition BGC's.
* A NICS Check MAY NOT be used for any purpose other than the transfer of a Long Gun, Handgun, or "Other" Frame/Receiver. Air and Black Powder are non-guns and the system shall not be used for those per Federal Law.
Years back some female Trooper got stupid with a convicted Felon that took a shot at her with a Black Powder Revolver and the Legislature, never to miss the opportunity to fuck over gun owners made it illegal for Felons to possess or use muzzle loading Arms...there were already prohibitions on Black powder Handguns in that you could own one without a Handgun Licenses so long as you didn't have the stuff to load it, in that case it had to be on your pistol permit.

Saltwater60 · May 14, 2026

Zerex said:
A 4473 is necessary in NYS already for primitive firearms, like Brown Bess, cap and ball, etc.

Do You Need a Background Check for a Muzzleloader in NY?

Understand New York’s nuanced firearm laws for muzzleloaders. Their unique legal status, distinct from modern guns, dictates purchase and possession requirements.

legalclarity.org

But do they have serial numbers? Not real hard to walk around this one.

Saltwater60 · May 14, 2026

The problem is these moron just see a gun and crap their pants. I have an old percussion smooth bore rifle or shotgun posted above my fireplace on some hand hammered hooks. It just goes with the look and feel of my house.
My wife’s DC family cidiots came over for a visit and they about freaked out. They have kids and were worried about it being real and loaded. I told him calm down it’s from the early 1800’s and while real it sits there. I don’t know the caliber, it’s not loaded, and I don’t even have the materials around here to do so. There’s not even a way to make it go boom. They did but I could tell it made him vastly uneasy. This is what life dealing with.

Jmac00 · May 14, 2026

you better get to the voting booth in November, or this shit will get much much worse.

I know, I know, you're in New Yorkistan, but your vote still matters. Hell if every gun owner in NY actually gave a shit, you wouldn't be in this predicament.

Saltwater60 · May 15, 2026

Jmac00 said:
you better get to the voting booth in November, or this shit will get much much worse.

I know, I know, you're in New Yorkistan, but your vote still matters. Hell if every gun owner in NY actually gave a shit, you wouldn't be in this predicament.

A lot of gun owners are democrats and that’s a fact often overlooked.
I’m sick of hearing this. I’m not attacking you or the people that say this because I’m sure there is some truth to it but
It either won’t happen
It’s wrong
Or they are voting and not the way we think.

Many gun owners are happy with their shotgun. A .22, and a bolt action rifle to hunt with. Most only have the first two. Not every gun owner thinks like we do.
I’ll add I’m astonished how many of two groups are democrats. Those groups are Christians and gun owners. I’ll add Jews to that mix as well. Democrats hate Jews and the ideology of Christians and gun owners fly in the face of democrats. The Bible clearly conflicts with democrats view and what they support.

FP1201 · May 15, 2026

Saltwater60 said:
A lot of gun owners are democrats and that’s a fact often overlooked.
I’m sick of hearing this. I’m not attacking you or the people that say this because I’m sure there is some truth to it but
It either won’t happen
It’s wrong
Or they are voting and not the way we think.

Many gun owners are happy with their shotgun. A .22, and a bolt action rifle to hunt with. Most only have the first two. Not every gun owner thinks like we do.
I’ll add I’m astonished how many of two groups are democrats. Those groups are Christians and gun owners. I’ll add Jews to that mix as well. Democrats hate Jews and the ideology of Christians and gun owners fly in the face of democrats. The Bible clearly conflicts with democrats view and what they support.

Democrats want government to be your god, communists that align with democrats and liberals decidedly want no god and Republicanism/Conservationism flies in the face of all them.
As long as I've lived here, the constant messaged ingrained into the democrat paradigm is "democrats are for the little Guy" and Republicans only support Big Business" which nothing could be farther from the truth, but people don't want to change or challenge anything that might expose that they've been wrong all this time. Democrat control emulates from the big cities of NY whereas damn near everything, everywhere else is soundly Red.
"Nobody whats to be wrong, let alone admit to it."

Zerex · May 15, 2026

My BP pistol, an 1860 Army repro, is on my PP.

Robin · May 15, 2026

So are my flintlock pistols. Just more government over stepping the bounds of true liberty. FUNY!
Robin

Bustedknees · May 15, 2026

Robin is looking at a life sentence.

jimc · Jun 2, 2026

I thought the 2nd Amendment only applies to firearms that existed when the Bill of Rights was written. How are muskets not protected?

Grimscale · Jun 3, 2026

jimc said:
I thought the 2nd Amendment only applies to firearms that existed when the Bill of Rights was written. How are muskets not protected?

Because they say so. Logic does not apply.

spat · Jun 6, 2026

jimc said:
I thought the 2nd Amendment only applies to firearms that existed when the Bill of Rights was written. How are muskets not protected?

If the 2A only protects arms that existed when it was passed, then the constitution only authorizes taxes that were in existence when it was passed.

Grimscale · Jun 6, 2026

spat said:
If the 2A only protects arms that existed when it was passed, then the constitution only authorizes taxes that were in existence when it was passed.

And also only printed media that existed.
So all the leftist idiots can stop posting on the internet.

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