Dog attacks 14 yr old who then shoots dog & 15 yr old owner. 14 w/ handgun? WTF?

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You want to know how a teen gets a gun? Set all your kids down and search their rooms and ask them where to buy a gun, bet they either have one or know where to get one!
 
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Not much said about what set the event in motion. The breed of dog was not mentioned . I firmly believe if one wants to own a breed of dog that is known to vastly more violent and prone to fly off the handle for no reason ... That dog needs to be professionally trained ...... And folks that costs a great deal of money and time. If one goes into the history of this dog ....(and we don't know at this point } chances are you will find the dog has bitten someone in the past . If this was the case where does the blame really lie. What if that teen knew the dogs history {being violent } and had a gun on him because of that.
 
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livingston said:
Not much said about what set the event in motion. The breed of dog was not mentioned . I firmly believe if one wants to own a breed of dog that is known to vastly more violent and prone to fly off the handle for no reason ... That dog needs to be professionally trained ...... And folks that costs a great deal of money and time. If one goes into the history of this dog ....(and we don't know at this point } chances are you will find the dog has bitten someone in the past . If this was the case where does the blame really lie. What if that teen knew the dogs history {being violent } and had a gun on him because of that.
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This is a very nuanced topic. Dogs are all different, and breed has less to do with bad behavior than bad breeding.
One of the dumbest things I keep hearing in the dog world is, "its how they're raised", mostly about pitbulls. Pitbulls, along with several other breeds are very powerful, forceful animals. They need firm handling and good training. Of course there are exceptions. Ive seen PLENTY of pitbulls who are untrained, but live long, aggression free lives. And ive seen plenty of pitbulls who had tons of training kill other dogs, or bite people.
Here is something I always tell pitbull haters. If there were as many Rottweilers or German Shepherds in the USA as pitbulls, we wouldn't even be talking about pitbulls.
In my experience a larger percentage of GSD are unnecessarily aggressive than pitbulls.
And you are absolutely right, all dogs need training, but powerful breeds especially. If you're not the pack leader, then they are. If your dog feels they are the alpha, you absolutely WILL have aggression issues....period.
Another thing I truly believe is that if Chihuahuas were 70 pounds, we would all be dead!! They are by FAR the most aggressive dogs ive dealt with.
We currently have 2 Kangal dogs as farm guards. If Kangals were bred and passed around like pitulls, we would all be in trouble. They can be the most frightening dogs on the planet, bar none. Ive seen a video of one Kangal in Turkey not only fight, but kill THREE wolves.
The absolute most aggressive dog I ever dealt with, and the only dog I ever "feared" was a purebred Golden Retriever named Scooby Doo. He was owned by a family who had him through obedience classes. He was just mentally ill obviously. People don't realize that animals can be mentally ill, but they can. This dog was friendly as could be, until he violently attacked ANYTHING for seemingly no reason. It was almost like a tick, like tourettes, but with biting instead of swearing! He had destroyed plastic deck chairs, attacked trees, cars, bikes, people....
 
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