GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
New York Now Requires Banks To Track Your Guns
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Fuck NY!
Besides, no guns in NY, no ammo in NY... So what are they tracking!?
Now... Are they tracking all "transactions" made by known firearm or ammunition dealers in NY. Or are they tracking NY resident purchases and Selection felt notifying NY of Firearm transactions by account? Hmmmmm?
Anyways, for "me" it doesn't matter! I stopped making ANY 2A purchase in NY that would result in any sales tax on said items going back to the State. My little form of rebellion...
Good Luck Folks, NY sux and it obviously isn't getting any better!
Besides, no guns in NY, no ammo in NY... So what are they tracking!?
Now... Are they tracking all "transactions" made by known firearm or ammunition dealers in NY. Or are they tracking NY resident purchases and Selection felt notifying NY of Firearm transactions by account? Hmmmmm?
Anyways, for "me" it doesn't matter! I stopped making ANY 2A purchase in NY that would result in any sales tax on said items going back to the State. My little form of rebellion...
Good Luck Folks, NY sux and it obviously isn't getting any better!
4WHLDRFTN
.308 Win
This is great! Now hoolio down on the corner will be tracked 
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
DO NOT USE A CREDIT CARD FOR GUNS AND AMMO ..
ANYWHERE!!!
Get prepaid Cards and do not register them .. they still work .. or do register them under some ladies name that lives in Albany ..
i bet the witch and he hit men are thinking now we can tract who is buying in PA or OH .. ect ..
ANYWHERE!!!
Get prepaid Cards and do not register them .. they still work .. or do register them under some ladies name that lives in Albany ..
i bet the witch and he hit men are thinking now we can tract who is buying in PA or OH .. ect ..
Hochul signs new gun laws
CC data on purchase types is logged on the bank statement, by your bank if the retailer does not post one. I buy items all across the country on Ebasy, and my inet bank statment record, says what is was. There is a bill in Congress to prohibit the collection of data like Hochul wants. If...
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That_FNG
.308 Win
All this does is say that you spent money at a certain type of retailer. Not what you buy or how much. With a store like cabelas all they know is you spent $500 on something. Could be guns or ammo, could be camping equipment or fishing rods. NYS already knows when you buy guns or ammo in this state thanks to the POC background checks and pistol permits. If you buy out of state they have no way of knowing. Or you know just use a gift card or pay cash.
They can narrow it down much further than just "500 at Cabela's"
And, 100% agree to now use only cash, prepaid gift cards and buy out of state.
If you live in NY and NY has required that credit card companies and banks have to track what NY'ers buy and report that to NY, then they will still know what you bought out of state. That's the whole point to this.
NY is making an end-run around the requirement that a warrant be issued for a person's private information, by requiring the credit card companies and banks to provide that information automatically.
The first time someone is arrested for buying ammo out of state they should sue the life out of the bank while at the same time filing a motion to have the evidence suppressed for violation of civil rights.
The over reach is steadily increasing because SCOTUS doesn't do anything.
libertysnake
.338 Win Mag
Not that they should even track that, but what you're saying is accurate. It just stays you bought something from someone who is a firearms dealer or a seller of ammo.
It doesn't give them authority to say you cannot buy it. They might be able at to marry up the social media accounts your submitted and look to see if after a large purchase you post some sort of crazy manifesto, though.
However, the solution to that is simple:
1. Before you submit your social media accounts for the permit, change your username on your accounts to bullshit
2. Delete all context of said accounts via API calls to the service backend.
3. Right after the signed papers go in, just make a new account using the original name. So you can use the name you've always been using.
4. If you want you might be able to backup the posts you made before your scrubbed things.
The permit paperwork just says you need to give them your social media accounts, former and CURRENT. Once your submit your paperwork, it doesn't require you tell them about new accounts you make. It doesn't mention what condition they have to be in.
That way when they look up the accounts they get a wall of nothing. (You're just not a very vocal guy.)
So beat them at their own game.
Bigfoot
.577 Tyrannosaur.
FWIW.
The Supreme Court handed down the DC v. Heller ruling and the NYSRPA v. Bruen ruling.
Those rulings may not be everything a gun owner/2A supporter wants. But both of those are pro-2A decisions.
The Supreme Court's problem is that it has no teeth. Or chooses not to have any teeth.
The court doesn't enforce its decisions, at least when it comes to the 2A.
Hochul and other blue state governors are allowed to blatantly violate US citizens' constitutional rights at will with no consequences. So, in a way, the Supreme Court not enforcing its rulings makes itself irrelevant. I'm pretty sure that's not how it's supposed to work.
The Bruen decision that included "text, history, and tradition" should have been game over for the civil rights-violating Democrat governors. But the tyrannical governors, such as Hochul show utter disrespect to the Supreme Court and our system of government. They give the Supreme Court justices the middle finger and sign even more draconian, unconstitutional gun control laws into law.
I'm rambling at this point, so I'll just say it seems like Hochul and those like her should be charged with civil rights violations. I'm not a constitutional scholar or a legal guru, so I may be incorrect about that. But it seems like common sense to me.
The supreme Court should be holding hochul in clear contempt of court.
If you're ever not sure, just rephrase the parties ask yourself this question, what would a liberal court do to Trump if he ignored and defied their ruling? They would obviously try to impeach him, hold him in contempt etc. Just uno-reverse that shit right back now to the liberal politicians who ignore gun rights SCOTUS cases. Why are they able to do so without any reprocussions?
Bigfoot
.577 Tyrannosaur.
What agency would be/is responsible for enforcing the Supreme Court decisions?
The DOJ? Jeez, I should know this kind of stuff by now.
I did a quick search and came up with this below.
Executive Enforcement of Judicial Orders | Federal Judicial Center
Includes landmark legislation, congressional committees, appropriations, administrative agencies, court officers and staff…
"Whether the executive is obligated to enforce final court judgments has remained a matter of debate."
Anyway, I think I'm sliding off topic, my apologies.
Bruen, allowed me to carry concealed, after 40 years as a pp holder.
Hochul was so stunned she had to retreat and regroup trying to figure a way to shitcan this trap she was in...............
After SNOPES............ will fix things, so that Fed lower cts will have to order AW's legal on appeal.............eventually, when H woman refuses.
I have AW License, PP License, so NYSP know all about them..........same as you.
Hochul was so stunned she had to retreat and regroup trying to figure a way to shitcan this trap she was in...............
After SNOPES............ will fix things, so that Fed lower cts will have to order AW's legal on appeal.............eventually, when H woman refuses.
I have AW License, PP License, so NYSP know all about them..........same as you.
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Old Jalopy
.45 acp
A judge ruled the social media stuff was invasion of privacy. Can't remember who but pretty sure it was a Buffalo judge. I'd have a look into that.
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RedBreast21
6.5 Creedmoor
Anyone read the new law? I have not heard any mention of other payment methods like cash transfer apps and paypal.
Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
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RedBreast21
6.5 Creedmoor
Wash. Rinse. Repeat. That's NYS legislature operating procedures. 
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
They know little of what my $100 bills go to. I buy nearly everything gun and gun related in cash.
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Individuals in government that even consider that this kind of thinking is okay should loose their citizenship.
Robin
Robin
I buy all my guns in PA. Its a
little more of a pain in the butt for pistols, but I have a guy. I can still choose, buy, and be home with a pistol in about an hour. I usually wait until the next day as to not piss off "my guy" too much.
But if I really NEED a handgun, I can probably do it in 45 minutes.
If I call my NY guy to meet me at the PA gun shop, then pay for the gun, then leave my guy there to do his thing, I can drive to the court house, add the pistol, then get back to my NY guys shop where he will already be. Yep, about 45 minutes.
My NY guy and me both live 5 miles from the shop. The court house is about 10 miles from the shop. It would be close.
Dammit! Now I have to try it!!
Ive never once bought a gun or ammo with a credit card. I think its just that "NY state of mind" thing....I know they are sneaky.DO NOT USE A CREDIT CARD FOR GUNS AND AMMO ..
ANYWHERE!!!
Get prepaid Cards and do not register them .. they still work .. or do register them under some ladies name that lives in Albany ..
i bet the witch and he hit men are thinking now we can tract who is buying in PA or OH .. ect ..
Im a cash all the way buyer.
Heck, my wife and I buy most of our "stuff" in Corry or Warren PA anyways. They are about as close as any NY stores, and I just feel better giving tax and business to PA.
New York State as Point of Contact for NICS checks and Ammunition Checks ARE building a data base on everyone that has a check conducted, how you paid for them is mostly meaningless unless they're trying to build a Criminal Case against you.
The Legislature that wrote and passed these asinine Laws know the Laws are ineffectual (as are the authors and supporters) but they have to give the appearance of "doing something" however ill-thought and ill considered as they are...it's been proved time and again, many of the Legislators that passed such Laws know nothing of the logistics and actual meanings, some PAC writes the Bill, passes it off to a staffer or Legislator (campaign contributions are a must for consideration) and so long as it's a democrat, they'll generally pass whatever their brethren submit.
AH, and that's why they want to go digital currency...they wanna know everything about you and what you do and they want to keep it secret.
It's nice that YOU can do that, but that's in-the-face of those who cannot.I buy all my guns in PA. Its a
little more of a pain in the butt for pistols, but I have a guy. I can still choose, buy, and be home with a pistol in about an hour. I usually wait until the next day as to not piss off "my guy" too much.
But if I really NEED a handgun, I can probably do it in 45 minutes.
If I call my NY guy to meet me at the PA gun shop, then pay for the gun, then leave my guy there to do his thing, I can drive to the court house, add the pistol, then get back to my NY guys shop where he will already be. Yep, about 45 minutes.
My NY guy and me both live 5 miles from the shop. The court house is about 10 miles from the shop. It would be close.
Dammit! Now I have to try it!!
Folks bitch about how long it takes to have a Handgun Licenses issued and/or amended, threaten to take Legal action UNTIL they get theirs, then it's "oh well, sucks to be you" thereafter.
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Absolutely, its a perk to living on the border. Ill take any win I can get. And yes, it does suck to not live on the border I guess. Im also pretty close to Ohio.
Brawny71
.223 Rem
I’m confused. NYS still can’t account for Billions of State and Federal funds for five years. But they have the gall to have someone else account for our spending.
Why cant the banks say “NO”? But we know that answer. Is this not a violation of privacy? Do we really need a court to decide or is this another attrition of funds for later.
From the desk of NYS: What You Should Know - NYS Personal Privacy Protection Law (PPPL)
Why cant the banks say “NO”? But we know that answer. Is this not a violation of privacy? Do we really need a court to decide or is this another attrition of funds for later.
From the desk of NYS: What You Should Know - NYS Personal Privacy Protection Law (PPPL)