DOJ gets rid of handgun sale ban on 18-20 year olds saying it’s unconstitutional

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Gov. Kathy Hochul Rejects DOJ, Will Continue to Ban Handgun Sales to 18-20 Year-Olds

The DOJ found the ban on handgun sales to 18-20 year-olds "unconstitutional" but Gov. Hochul made clear the ban will remain in force in NY.
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And therein lies the problem with this in NYS…

It might be interesting if a plaintiff were to sue her and NYS arguing that if an 18-20 year old cannot purchase / aquire / own a handgun under a constitutionally protected right, that it must therefore also be illegal to be able to vote at 18? Same issue with “are you a legal adult at 18”, or at 21 when you can legally drink?

Just food for thought and spirited discussion, and in case such a lawsuit would make their heads explode!
 
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VietnamEraVet said:
It might be interesting if a plaintiff were to sue her and NYS arguing that if an 18-20 year old cannot purchase / aquire / own a handgun under a constitutionally protected right, that it must therefore also be illegal to be able to vote at 18?
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No... she should be arrested for infringement of Rights under color of Law. Since she so nicely admitted it it should make the case easy.

Start prosecuting these rogue, tyrannical politicians.
 
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No... she should be arrested for infringement of Rights under color of Law. Since she so nicely admitted it it should make the case easy.

Start prosecuting these rogue, tyrannical politicians.
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You are 100% correct! I will take both the lawsuits, AND, arresting them for $100 Alex!
 
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The NYS safe act, in 2013, raised the age to purchase a handgun, and get a pp to 21.
Age 21 is now also the age to be able to purchase a semi auto rifle or shotgun, in NYS.
 
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The NYS safe act, in 2013, raised the age to purchase a handgun, and get a pp to 21.
Age 21 is now also the age to be able to purchase a semi auto rifle or shotgun, in NYS.
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I’m not certain that you are correct on that.

My recollection is that it was 21 before NY(UN)SAFE, with a BS “exception” that allowed honorably discharged veterans who were under 21 to apply for, and possibly obtain one.

Basically, that was BS because by the time someone served a typical 4 year stint (maybe 2, but unlikely), beginning at 18, was honorably discharged, - and THEN applied and waited another 1-2 years for the PPO to get off their asses, he or she was already 21 or older.
 
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I’m not certain that you are correct on that.

My recollection is that it was 21 before NY(UN)SAFE, with a BS “exception” that allowed honorably discharged veterans who were under 21 to apply for, and possibly obtain one.

Basically, that was BS because by the time someone served a typical 4 year stint (maybe 2, but unlikely), beginning at 18, was honorably discharged, - and THEN applied and waited another 1-2 years for the PPO to get off their asses, he or she was already 21 or older.
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I believe you are correct. I’ll also add that there is not a 21 year age limit for shotguns or bolt action rifles. It’s just handguns and semi auto rifles.
 
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You got it!

I grew up in the the time of 18 year olds drinking legally, and buying guns.

Age to buy a gun in the ghetto, is still 12.
 
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What about threaded barrels and all of the nonsense 'evil features' :)
 
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Under the Biden Administration, an EO came down that NICS checks were to be "enhanced" and "Extended" to ten business days (which translates to over two weeks) for persons under 21 so that Mental Health, Juvenile, or any other Records could be examined to determine IF the applicant is worthy of exercising their Second Amendment Right.
 
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What about threaded barrels and all of the nonsense 'evil features' :)
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Rules covering them are still in play, just remember those cover Semi-Automatic rifles. with differing ones covering semi-automatic Shotguns, and Semi-automatic Pistols; Pump, Levers, Revolver, bolt actions, etc. are not subject to the provisions of the un_SAFE Act.
 
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VietnamEraVet said:
www.breitbart.com

Gov. Kathy Hochul Rejects DOJ, Will Continue to Ban Handgun Sales to 18-20 Year-Olds

The DOJ found the ban on handgun sales to 18-20 year-olds "unconstitutional" but Gov. Hochul made clear the ban will remain in force in NY.
www.breitbart.com www.breitbart.com

And therein lies the problem with this in NYS…

It might be interesting if a plaintiff were to sue her and NYS arguing that if an 18-20 year old cannot purchase / aquire / own a handgun under a constitutionally protected right, that it must therefore also be illegal to be able to vote at 18? Same issue with “are you a legal adult at 18”, or at 21 when you can legally drink?

Just food for thought and spirited discussion, and in case such a lawsuit would make their heads explode!
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She also just created Legal Standing with her refusal.
 
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FP1201 said:
Under the Biden Administration, an EO came down that NICS checks were to be "enhanced" and "Extended" to ten business days (which translates to over two weeks) for persons under 21 so that Mental Health, Juvenile, or any other Records could be examined to determine IF the applicant is worthy of exercising their Second Amendment Right.
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What juvenile records? Prison Pipeline Act (when Biden was VP) stipulated that education institutions were forbidden from keeping records, sharing information with other schools/ DSS/DCPS/ law enforcement to protect a child from making a kid mistake. Cause/effect study was the Parkin shooting if you truly want to see it start to finish. Hence why Uvaldi, Buffalo and the rest would have happened in ANY gun shop.

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She said be arrested.

I’ll give credit where it is due, as per usual. Good job to the DOJ/the administration on this.
 
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She said be arrested.

I’ll give credit where it is due, as per usual. Good job to the DOJ/the administration on this.
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The timing is impeccable and I’m sure it has nothing to do with the upcoming election. That’s my only issue with that. I like what they are doing though.
 
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