Why are democrats so driven to control guns?

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In all seriousness, this is a question very few have been able to answer; why are democrats so determined about controlling and/or disarming Americans?
I've yet to find a democrat that at the very least wouldn't carp out "well, I believe in the Second Amendment but...." and many have made their life-long careers out of submitting and passing legislation to pass Laws diametrically opposing both State and Federal Constitutions...why? what purpose is served? what is the end goal?
Think about it, I dare say all reading this have wondered the same, certainly been around long enough to have experienced it.
 
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FP1201 said:
In all seriousness, this is a question very few have been able to answer; why are democrats so determined about controlling and/or disarming Americans?
I've yet to find a democrat that at the very least wouldn't carp out "well, I believe in the Second Amendment but...." and many have made their life-long careers out of submitting and passing legislation to pass Laws diametrically opposing both State and Federal Constitutions...why? what purpose is served? what is the end goal?
Think about it, I dare say all reading this have wondered the same, certainly been around long enough to have experienced it.
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Because they want to do things that will get them shot if they don't.
 
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Several reasons.

1. They personally have impulse control problems so they assume everyone does. I believe hitlery clinton once said she would shoot someone over a parking spot. Simply, they dont trust us serfs with weapons.

2. Many of the useful idiots have a mindset that is opposed to violence. Some women have even said they would rather be raped than to use a gun to defend themselves. So, because they dont want to "live in a world where they need to defend themselves" they dont want anyone owning a gun. And the politicians know this, so they are buying votes by banning guns.

3. They know that most gun owners are self defense minded and more freedom minded people and when they finally start putting people into the "camps" they dont want us being able to resist.
 
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Plater1 said:
It's much easier to control people if they are unarmed. There are a few thousand years of history to prove this out.
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This

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Having guns is power
Take guns from the opposition and you have all the power

Everything they say the politics of the right already have they want
Total control total reliance
 
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I don't think they really care. Politicians don't really care about the content of what they endorse, they only care about the outcome. If wearing dogshit on your head increased your chance of winning in the polls every politician would do it. People flip sides on topics all the time when it suits their needs of gaining power.
 
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Celt said:
Several reasons.

1. They personally have impulse control problems so they assume everyone does. I believe hitlery clinton once said she would shoot someone over a parking spot. Simply, they dont trust us serfs with weapons.

2. Many of the useful idiots have a mindset that is opposed to violence. Some women have even said they would rather be raped than to use a gun to defend themselves. So, because they dont want to "live in a world where they need to defend themselves" they dont want anyone owning a gun. And the politicians know this, so they are buying votes by banning guns.

3. They know that most gun owners are self defense minded and more freedom minded people and when they finally start putting people into the "camps" they dont want us being able to resist.
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A lot of times it comes down to cowardice.

They can't defend themself, mentally.

But they aren't willing to admit their weakness.

So they want *nobody* to be able to defend themselves, so that they can pretend their problem isn't a major shortcomings.

That's where all that bullshit "better to cooperate", "better to let the professionals handle it", etc... comes from.

Because if someone else in their same circumstance can handle it themselves, that exposes the flaws.

This applies to a lot more than self defense. Basically every anti-DIY expression they push is based in that same inferiority complex. "You shouldn't fix that plumbing/electrical/car/etc yourself", because if you do it makes me feel useless.
 
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libertysnake said:
I don't think they really care. Politicians don't really care about the content of what they endorse, they only care about the outcome. If wearing dogshit on your head increased your chance of winning in the polls every politician would do it. People flip sides on topics all the time when it suits their needs of gaining power.
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I believe this right here doesn't get enough attention. Many democrat politicians aren't necessarily against guns, but due to brainwashing, their voters are anti gun.
The VAST majority of rabidly anti gun voters have absolutely ZERO facts to back up their thoughts, and in fact usually believe completely untrue things about guns.
If you literally had $1 for every citizen who believes AR15s are "weapons of war" you would be a millionaire.
Same for people who believe the standard AR15 is the "most powerful gun on earth".
A politician would have to be a fool to tell their rabid voters, "well actually......"
 
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libertysnake said:
I don't think they really care. Politicians don't really care about the content of what they endorse, they only care about the outcome. If wearing dogshit on your head increased your chance of winning in the polls every politician would do it. People flip sides on topics all the time when it suits their needs of gaining power.
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Some of them actually do. Have you ever really looked at Trump’s hair? :beer:
 
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No need to look for a reason, because at this point it’s historical. Like many Democrat talismans, gun control is so deeply ingrained in their platform that there is no thought given to whether it is right or constitutional, only to how to use it for maximum influence on their voter base.
 
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I have thought about this for a long time. I think suburban people feel safe and therefore believe no one needs a gun. They also probably believe that bullshit statistic about how the addition of a gun to a household increases the likelihood of accidental/suicidal death by a billion percent.

However my thinking has changed. I used to think the line about how liberals "only believe guns are for killing because that's what they do with them" was just a clever talking point. Now I am not so sure. I really think a lot of liberals and most progressives really have something wrong with them mentally. As we see with the recent surge in trans shooters they can't be trusted with guns. They believe guns are only for murder because that is what they do with them.
 
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We all know, and so do the Dems, that 99.999% of gun violence and gun crimes occur in major metropolitan areas by a bunch of P.O.S. cockroach gangsters. But they can’t just ban guns from “them”, otherwise they would be labeled racist. So all of us respectful law abiding citizens have to suffer because of it. And then we get labeled as being racist for actually saying it. My take anyways
 
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My vote is control . Next is If guns were abolished then a certain part of the population would see massive violence thrust upon them . ... I will just leave it at that .
 
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Seriously?

It's all about control... And living only by Permission!

Check all the Progressive Safe Havens and see all the rules & regulations just to walk down the street! It's nuts! And that's all there is to it! Every single politician selling snake oil, how they're going to reshape the world in their image and imagination! How they and only they can fix the problems (they created)...

Remember, the world's 2nd oldest profession is at most times indistinguishable from the world's oldest...
 
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Guns = freedom and independence

Liberals hate both those.

Liberals want the government to decide things for them and protect them from cradle to grave. They don't like the premise of uncertainty and it's foreign to them. They want control. To them control feels safe and secure.
 
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I believe the first gun control laws passed in the US were the Sullivan Acts in NYS in an attempt to disarm anarchists and to license correct "people".

Pres Mckinley was killed, TR was shot later on.
Humans are animals, not people, per se. anarchy is what we are preventing today with NICS, etc.
 
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Zerex said:
I believe the first gun control laws passed in the US were the Sullivan Acts in NYS in an attempt to disarm anarchists and to license correct "people".

Pres Mckinley was killed, TR was shot later on.
Humans are animals, not people, per se. anarchy is what we are preventing today with NICS, etc.
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The Sullivan act was because Tammany hall and that gang were doing things they should have been shot for doing.

And they controlled government enough to get them to do their dirty work.

Nothing has really changed since then but the names.
 
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Zerex said:
I believe the first gun control laws passed in the US were the Sullivan Acts in NYS in an attempt to disarm anarchists and to license correct "people".

Pres Mckinley was killed, TR was shot later on.
Humans are animals, not people, per se. anarchy is what we are preventing today with NICS, etc.
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wait a minute, you've indicated multiple times that criminals, ie those that would commit crimes and anarchy is one, DO NOT get their guns by legal means and certainly not through the NICS check you're so in love with.
Perhaps you're an animal and think I to be one, but I assure you I am not and additionally I subscribe to the Biblical principle of Man being over the animals of the Earth and may do with them as he pleases.
 
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NICS drives animals to the street, and they pay the street tax of their guns and ghosts.

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Recent figures:

  • 2023: Over 76,000 individuals were denied firearms purchases through NICS TheGunZoneTheGunZone.
  • 2022: About 234,000 denials were recorded TheGunZoneTheGunZone.
  • 2021: Around 200,000–220,000 denials were reported TheGunZoneTheGunZone.

DV convictees, likely consist of most of the rejections. They are getting smarter and do not buy guns legally. This teaches carefulness in gun purchases, from Harry the trunk guy, or ghost gun parts sellers, or should.

At least 30 million felons live in the USA, and an untold number of domestic violence convictees., estimates run as high as 50-80 million total, who cannot own guns, or buy them.

THAT, is why the 2nd was written as it is...future crime was seen by the founders. They knew America at the time and nothing has changed.



None can pass a NICS check today.
 
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