Epstein Files ..the saga continues

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CaseHardened said:
Young women being paid for sex with men.
Outrageous .... yawn.

Has anyone opened the internet recently to see what thousands (if not millions) of women will do for cash? It is sad, but it's real.

"According to biblical history, King Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines, making a total of 1,000 royal partners and mistresses."

Well, they all were carefully vetted to be over 18, and were deeply in love.....

Ok, I'm pretty sure on Epstein Island there were actual children, boys and girls, abused.

And I'm pretty sure both Clintons enjoyed their services. And I'm pretty sure DJT, who does not even drink, had nothing to do with that.

But were any sex workers or slaves murdered to keep silence? I've not seen claims of that. And where are the lawsuits from the victims ?

Biden had a full four years to publicize any files he wished to.

Epstein did not commit suicide. He was murdered because he had a lot on Democrats, and nothing on DJT.

Epstein is no more than a sorry distraction from much more important matters.
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I think there probably *was* a lot of evidence in the Epstein files that *should* have sent many of the most powerful people in the world to the gallows.

But, the Biden FBI had 4 years to scrub it all. So I don't think there's anything left in there but speculation and innuendo.
 
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spat said:
I think there probably *was* a lot of evidence in the Epstein files that *should* have sent many of the most powerful people in the world to the gallows.

But, the Biden FBI had 4 years to scrub it all. So I don't think there's anything left in there but speculation and innuendo.
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Bondi stated she had ALL the files on her desk.
 
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spat said:
Trump's name is mentioned in your post history here hundreds (maybe thousands) of times.

By that logic we can conclude you two were best buddies, right ?
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Yeah... if I was going to parties and joking around with him you probably could reasonably conclude that. It's possible that he didn't know, like some deviants family might not know despite being around them all the time. That being said, his actions make me suspicious:

He ran on fully disclosing the Epstein files.
His name appears in the files tens of thousands of times.
After he won.... crickets.

You'd think he'd follow through and punish a bunch of sick perverts, but he didn't. Why not? If you had evidence to put away a child predator ring, would you sit on it? What would make you, as the president with all of the resources of America, sit on it?


Well, if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck.
 
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spat said:
All the files that were left maybe.

Remember all that "investigating" and "gathering evidence" the FBI was doing for the 4 years Biden was in office.

You know what else "gathering evidence" is good for ? Making the evidence go away.
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Trump's FBI raided Epstein Island back in 2017. The blaming on Biden is just plain stupid.
 
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spat said:
I think there probably *was* a lot of evidence in the Epstein files that *should* have sent many of the most powerful people in the world to the gallows.

But, the Biden FBI had 4 years to scrub it all. So I don't think there's anything left in there but speculation and innuendo.
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EXACTLY
 
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Yes, Epstein's operation went on for decades unmolested.

Trump reported him and they gave him a slap on the wrist under previous administrations.

Then Trump's DOJ actually prosecuted him.
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And then no clients..Wow, such progress.
 
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Epstein maintained close personal and business ties with former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, and his New York residence was frequently visited by Israeli intelligence-linked figures such as Yoni Koren. Epstein also made philanthropic donations to organizations linked to the Israeli military, such as Friends of the Israel Defense Forces

The Robert Maxwell Link: Epstein's former girlfriend and associate, Ghislaine Maxwell, is the daughter of Robert Maxwell, a British newspaper tycoon who was long rumored to have had historical ties to Israeli intelligence. [1]


Robert Maxwell rose to become a British media tycoon whose empire rivalled Rupert Murdoch's. He founded Pergamon Press, an academic publishing house, supplying history and science textbooks across US schools. They were often criticised for promoting pro-Israel narratives aligned with Maxwell's staunch Zionism.

In 1984, he acquired the Daily Mirror, transforming it into a tabloid behemoth. At his peak, he controlled Maxwell Communication Corp, Macmillan, Pergamon, and a fleet of global publications. His daughter Ghislaine was his golden child. She was educated at Oxford, polished for high society, and his frequent companion at events from London to New York.

He was seen hobnobbing with Queen Elizabeth, Prince Charles, Princess Diana, Margaret Thatcher, and even Mother Teresa. Photos also captured him beside US Presidents George W Bush and Donald Trump.

Multiple sources report that UK Foreign Office suspected Maxwell as a double or triple agent, with ties to MI6, the Soviet KGB, and Israeli intelligence Mossad.

Robert Maxwell moved between the White House, the Kremlin, Downing Street, and the leadership of France, Germany, and Israel.

In the 1960s, he served two terms as a Labour MP for Buckingham while living a lavish lifestyle. At his Oxford estate, Headington Hall, he hosted extravagant parties that were rumoured to be used as honey traps to gather compromising information on powerful figures.

Perhaps the most damning allegations link him to the PROMIS software scandal. Originally a US Department of Justice case management tool, PROMIS was allegedly stolen, doctored with an Israeli backdoor, and distributed to dozens of foreign intelligence agencies, militaries, and corporations, allowing Israel to spy on virtually every country that used it.

Robert Maxwell, according to several whistleblowers including former Israeli spy Ari Ben-Menashe, was the global salesman of this digital Trojan horse.


On November 5, 1991, Maxwell disappeared from his 180-foot yacht off the Canary Islands. He was found dead hours later, floating face up in the ocean. Officially, it was a heart attack and accidental drowning. His daughter believed he was murdered.


He was given a state funeral in Israel, attended by then-Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir and multiple intelligence officials.


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There is nothing wrong with using Honey Traps on people who want to kill you.

Some claim to have authentic access to our CIA, and they swear the CIA never stooped to Honey Traps.

If so, we should have dismissed any CIA Management with such misguided morality.

On the other hand, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (KSM): The self-proclaimed mastermind behind the 9/11 attacks was waterboarded 183 times while in CIA custody. Reports later revealed that KSM eventually figured out the strict time limitations his captors had to follow, famously using his fingers to count down the seconds during the procedure.

In instances such as these any "torture", which does not result in permanent mulitialion or injury, is 100% approrpriate.
 
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Is it possible Epstein served US Intelligence by orchestrating Honey Pots?

And, of course, sweetening the pot by induldging both Clinton's perversions.
 
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So quit crying about Epstein.

Trump was NOT a customer.

The majority of the sex workers were paid.

There was evil here, but trivial in comparison to what is done in Iran, China, Russia....
 
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CaseHardened said:
Is it possible Epstein served US Intelligence by orchestrating Honey Pots?
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Officially , they are not authorized to conduct operations against American citizens on US soil . Intelligence gathering falls to the FBI .

But Israel has been caught several times spying on the US , (everybody does it, they are not alone ), but in this case, Epstein did have ties to the Mossad
 
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There was evil here, but trivial in comparison to what is done in Iran, China, Russia....
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Is it trivial in comparison to what is done in Gaza? 80K dead so far .

I dont consider fraud and pilfering Briberey spying lieing infiltration theft trival or not as evil by a long shot , in fact they have probably caused more damage to the US than any enemy in the last 50 years .

If your happy putting Israel first before your countrymen , you should sit down and revaluate what the hell is going on the last 70 years .
 
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Your tax dollars paid for this. You support this radical genocidal raciest state . I dont . and sure as hell dont think we should sacrifice one American for the benefit of the chosen ones . let alone fight a war they started , gas prices are not high because of Iran. they are high because Isreal declared war on them and want us to fight it for them.
 
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Defilade said:
He wasn't in the files?
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The files include every piece of email or correspondence related to anything Epstein did for decades.

If we made the "Defilade files", then the section from your posts on this forum alone would have Trump and Epstein listed thousands of times.

So, how close were you with them ?

Being "in the files" just means Epstein knew your name. You would be hard pressed to find *anyone* who's "files" didn't mention Trump.

Now, there is *no* evidence in the files that Trump did anything wrong. Just that Epstein knew who he was. *Everybody* knows who Trump is.
 
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And our friends do this 1000 lb JDAM dropped into the middle of a refugee camp to kill one man 500 dead


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People are still buried in the rubble.
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And people like you are why Hamas hides their weapons and generals in refugee camps.

You *cannot* allow "human shields" to become a valid tactic, unless you want a lot more dead civilians.

The reason they do it now is precisely because they get sympathy from nieve westerners such as yourself. Congratulations, those 500 dead civilians are *your* fault.
 
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Is it trivial in comparison to what is done in Gaza? 80K dead so far .

I dont consider fraud and pilfering Briberey spying lieing infiltration theft trival or not as evil by a long shot , in fact they have probably caused more damage to the US than any enemy in the last 50 years .

If your happy putting Israel first before your countrymen , you should sit down and revaluate what the hell is going on the last 70 years .
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Apparently 80,000 isn't enough.

How many Japanese and Germans did we have to kill to rewrite their societies into something compatible with western culture ?
 
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Let me get this straight.
Humans, lie, cheat, steal, murder, rape, etc etc, and people are surprised?
Perhaps in the political arena people should treat the servants elected as what they are; servants and to be removed immediately when found to be scum.
There is no way the demonrat party would hold on exposing President Trump if they had the goods on him.
Now if the new world order (same as the old world order) is really who is in charge and has been all along, just sowing confusion and revolt to maintain power over the masses; that may explain why the west is under attack by the turd world.
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spat said:
Apparently 80,000 isn't enough.

How many Japanese and Germans did we have to kill to rewrite their societies into something compatible with western culture ?
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Hamas is similar to Nazi Germany and imperial Japan. Led by fanatics that will gladly sacrifice their own citizens to continue a war. The allies had to physically occupy Germany to end the war. They had to nuke Japan twice to end the war. Hamas would gladly sacrifice every last one of their citizens to kill Jews. I'm astonished this is not obvious to everyone.
 
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spat said:
I think there probably *was* a lot of evidence in the Epstein files that *should* have sent many of the most powerful people in the world to the gallows.

But, the Biden FBI had 4 years to scrub it all. So I don't think there's anything left in there but speculation and innuendo.
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This is a tall claim, with no evidence provided--even trump, who calls the entire epstein thing a hoax now, has made no such claim. There is also no investigation into this. Very clearly trump doesn't want to talk about epstein whatsoever, and instead of admitting you got tricked (to the credit of some here they are able to admit that) you've created a false narrative so that you can maintain cognitive dissonance over this.

It's far more reasonable to say that neither administration wanted the files released because they are two sides of the same coin, and complete issuance of the files--as prescribed by law, remember--would burn democrats and republicans alike.

Four indisputable facts: He said he'd release the files. A law was passed with huge partisan support to do just that. The files haven't been released. No explanation given by trump whatsoever other than to now plead that they are a hoax.
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The files include every piece of email or correspondence related to anything Epstein did for decades.

If we made the "Defilade files", then the section from your posts on this forum alone would have Trump and Epstein listed thousands of times.

So, how close were you with them ?

Being "in the files" just means Epstein knew your name. You would be hard pressed to find *anyone* who's "files" didn't mention Trump.

Now, there is *no* evidence in the files that Trump did anything wrong. Just that Epstein knew who he was. *Everybody* knows who Trump is.
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How many times has defilade corresponded directly with trump? How many times has he written birthday cards to him or been in pictures with him?
 
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