US military preparing for 90 days of “grid down” at all bases

Zerex said:

Confiscation of food by the STATE, to feed the foodless is a likely scenario after a few weeks in a SHTF situation.

Hording will be punished severely.
You are the enemy, not Iran or China.

Linda Son knows.

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Brawny71 said:

Can you imagine (after the first week) the lowered anxiety, more positive communication, and media panic for the loss of presenting their agenda and thoughts?

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FP1201 said:

Actually FEMA and State Disaster Officials (not just the State is a disaster) have written themselves authority to seize anything THEY need in a disaster this includes Vehicles, Properties, Food, Medical, etc.
In the even of a Severe disaster, all the Rules, Laws, Regulations, go out the Door...remember back to what They did during covid, that was a limited scope trial run...Don't think so? Contact your County Coordinator under the guise of "wanting to help/become involved" but be ready for a scary ride down the Rabbit Hole.

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holdover said:

A reasonable scenario is That the US doesn't have the military to invade and destroy Iran at this time . the potential for Iran to become a major power in the mideast is almost certain if we cant stop her . the odds of Iran now interested in obtaining nuclear weapons from other countries like Pakistan ( if they havent done so already) is extremely high. Everyday that goes by Iran becomes stronger. Isreal is applying pressure in Washington to strike Iran, Yet the US cannot deal a death blow to Iran at the moment without ground forces , the EU and NATO dont want anything to do with it , and Isreal wont commit ground troops.

The US is faced with dilema , the options are bomb Iran with conventional forces which wont complete the job. cut a deal where the US loses face and Israel is abandoned , Use conventual and tactical nukes against the military, opening the door for a small invasion force to seize Tehran .
The US doesn't have a lot of options , when Trump asks his general staff what can we do about Iran, they're going to tell him straight out we dont have the forces available . the only option we have that has a good chance of sucsess is to use tactical nukes

If Trump decides to sit and wait , Israel may take matters into its own hand again and attack Iran

Thats what the discussion is about. what the fuck do we do? Trumps been useing this time to build up the military , and to try to cut a deal with Iran. Iran wont cut any deals now , so that leaves him the military option which is very very bad .


Thens theres the nature of drone warfare to consider , just how bad will that be? Assuming the US goes in with high end anti drone capability and it doesn't work to the standard as advertised , the US could be facing a costly defeat ,


F35 Maintenance Burden per Flight Hour
While a jet might fly several consecutive 1.5- to 4-hour sorties without a critical breakdown, it requires intense routine maintenance after every single flight. The ratio of maintenance workload to flight time is heavy: [1, 2, 3]

• • Maintenance Man-Hours: For every 1 hour the F-35 spends in the air, ground crews must perform between 10 to 15 man-hours of maintenance to inspect components, calibrate sensors, and repair or treat the delicate radar-absorbent stealth skin. [1]
  • Readiness Impacts: Because of these demanding maintenance cycles and ongoing parts shortages, the wider F-35 fleet has historically faced a 50% to 55% mission-capable rate, meaning nearly half the fleet is typically undergoing maintenance or waiting for parts at any given time. [1, 2]

So yeah they absolutely have to consider the use of nukes , which means Russia will follow suit in Ukraine and obliterate them , and us losing that war .

Best play in my opinion is to wait until we have the forces necessary to beat them or not fight at all , tell Israel they are on thier own if they attack first .

We dont have a lot of good options here

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FP1201 said:

Actually FEMA and State Disaster Officials (not just the State is a disaster) have written themselves authority to seize anything THEY need in a disaster this includes Vehicles, Properties, Food, Medical, etc.
In the even of a Severe disaster, all the Rules, Laws, Regulations, go out the Door...remember back to what They did during covid, that was a limited scope trial run...Don't think so? Contact your County Coordinator under the guise of "wanting to help/become involved" but be ready for a scary ride down the Rabbit Hole.

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Defilade said:

FEMA and State Officials can't write laws. They mean nothing. They don't trump the Constitution.

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New York State Senate

C3D said:

What a crazy world. Multiple costcos reported to be out of bottled water.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Costco/comments/1xmgrb8/my_costco_ran_out_of_water/

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Defilade said:

FEMA and State Officials can't write laws. They mean nothing. They don't trump the Constitution.

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spat said:

You're not wrong.

But they can send armed officials to take your stuff by force.

That being illegal doesn't stop them anymore than it does the gang bangers

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Robin said:

That reminds me, I need a good water purifier. Any good recommendations?
Robin

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FP1201 said:

The trick is appearing to be just as hungry and destitute as everyone else...sure you can kit up and defend your homestead for a while, but you become ineffective after about 30 hours and need some rest/sleep, if you have multiple people competent enough to hold the Fort you might do better, but if it looks like you've got nothing because you got cleaned out already, there's a chance you'll be passed by...got a running vehicle and/or fuel when nobody else does? yea, some MF'r is going to want to take it and if they're from the gubberment, they'll think they're entitled to it under color of Law, and will likely try; people that'll do that are usually ignorant, lazy fucks so if it looks like it's in-op or too hard to try to get operational, they'll pass it by.

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FP1201 said:

You would think so, but you would be wrong.

I really hate using AI/ "Search Assistant" but here goes:

In New York, local executives can declare a state of emergency during disasters or public emergencies, allowing them to suspend local laws and issue emergency orders to protect public safety. These emergency orders can last for up to five days but may be extended if necessary.
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The National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) is a series of laws that authorize the budget and expenditures of the U.S. Department of Defense, while during emergencies, the president can temporarily suspend specific laws to effectively respond to the situation. This suspension is typically limited to provisions that hinder necessary actions during a disaster or national

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holdover said:

Tucker Carlson

Under pressure from Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the Trump administration may be within days of launching a nuclear strike on Iran. The target would be Pickax Mountain in central Iran, where Israeli intelligence claims the Iranian government has restarted its nuclear enrichment program. No conventional weapon in the American arsenal can penetrate 300 feet of solid granite to destroy the tunnels where enrichment is supposedly taking place. The only military option is a nuclear strike.

Netanyahu has been pushing hard for one. “Bibi calls Trump about it every day,” says an informed observer.Netanyahu is cornered and desperate. After last week’s election results, he can’t form a government unless Trump intervenes directly in Israeli politics and brokers a deal with other parties that gives Netanyahu 61 seats in the Knesset. Otherwise, he is out as prime minister and on his way to ignominy, investigations and possibly jail. Netanyahu must stay close to Trump. He needs this war.To that end, he’s applied maximum pressure to his closest allies in the administration, including Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth and CENTCOM commander Brad Cooper. Both oppose a negotiated settlement to the war they’ve so grievously mismanaged; both are pushing to restart major combat operations. Secretary of State Marco Rubio and CIA director John Ratcliffe are also following Netanyahu’s lead, as are leaders of the Democratic Party. In a recent meeting on the subject, former president Barack Obama said he opposes the current Iran peace deal being drafted in Doha.The rest of America’s longtime allies in the Middle East are terrified by the prospect of more war. On September 27th, Netanyahu flew secretly to Abu Dhabi to enlist the UAE in his lobbying effort for a final attack on Iran. The Emiratis refused. After eight months of conflict, Gulf economies are teetering.


So are global energy and fertilizer markets. They won’t recover soon. Globally, there are a total of about 850 supertankers used to transport oil from producers to the rest of the world. In October alone, 11 of them were badly damaged in Hormuz. At this pace, a global depression is imminent. A nuclear strike would radically accelerate the destruction. Fallout from a ground explosion at Pickax Mountain would contaminate the Persian Gulf, poisoning the water supply for 100 million people.And those are just some of the immediate consequences for the region. The rest of the world is every bit as exposed. No country other than the United States has ever used a nuclear weapon in war. Some would like to. An American nuclear attack on Iran would set a new precedent. The Russians have already told at least two other governments that an American nuclear strike on Iran would free them to use nuclear weapons against Ukraine. Pakistan and India would be tempted to do the same against each other, as would North Korea against Seoul. After the first nuclear strike, World War Three is inevitable. That war would be short and final.We’ve been sleepwalking toward this moment for months. Since February, the administration has quietly rewritten America’s nuclear doctrine to make first use of so-called “battlefield nukes” easier and therefore more likely.


No one in Washington in either party seems bothered by this. Now we’re on the brink of it.Close observers say Trump is likely to decide by next weekend whether or not to use nuclear weapons. That would be November 7, six days from now. To his credit, he’s hesitating. At the moment, Trump is listening to his vice president, JD Vance, and to his envoy and friend Steve Witkoff, both of whom argue a deal with Iran can be made.They’re right, though it won’t be simple. The Iranians are famously frustrating to negotiate with under any circumstances, and elements of that government have become more radical since Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and his family were killed in February.


After decades of isolation, even relatively moderate Iranian leaders seem confused by how decisions are made in the West. (There is a widespread belief in Tehran, for example, that the United States government controls Israel.) But overall, people who have spoken to decision-makers in Iran say there is consensus there that more war is bad for everyone and a deal is worth making.One group that hasn’t been consulted so far is the global population — the hundreds of millions of people who will be killed along with their children if Trump is pushed by Netanyahu into launching a nuclear strike next week. Now would be the time for them to speak up.

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spat said:

That's good advice.

The real trick is situational awareness. Once they start that shit, you need to actively hunt them down, not wait for them to come to you.

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Jmac00 said:

My Plan

Go mobile for as long as you can, move into the woods as far as you can. Hunt, fish, stay on guard, be happy

or

move to Spats house and not only be happy, be safe, NO ONE is stupid enough to try and get to his house besides me

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thughes said:

I'll bring additional firepower to man a guard post.....

(I have distilling and brewing experience too)

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Defilade said:

Thinking back to what Klaus Schwab warned us about.
2020 July 8th. Cyber Polygon the WEF’s annual cyberwar game. He said a comprehensive cyberattack could bring a complete halt to power supply, transportation, hospital services, society as a whole, and that COVID would look like a small disturbance by comparison. He called it a potential cyber pandemic and said we should use the COVID crisis as an opportunity to prepare for it. Then Cyber Polygon 2021 he doubled down , lack of cybersecurity is a clear and immediate danger, and IT infrastructure needs digital antibodies built in. January 2021 the WEF put out a video saying a cyberattack with COVID like characteristics would spread ten times faster than the coronavirus.

So six years of tabletop exercises, simulations, and warnings and now the real incidents are stacking up in the same sectors they drilled on.
Now everything is starting to make sense.

Present day: AI removed the skill barrier. South Korea lost up to a hundred thousand bank records to one guy in China using chatbots. CyberCartel hit four hundred-plus Latin American banks with Claude and Grok. VAPOR PANDA used DeepSeek to breach two hundred organizations across fourteen countries in eleven days. Russia’s Midnight Blizzard used Claude to auto-rewrite malware past antivirus. A Russian group built autonomous lethal drones with no human in the loop. November second, CISA, FBI, and NSA warned AI is now writing exploits against Siemens controllers running US power plants and water systems. Iran knocked out a British energy facility. Russian intelligence probes US and European utilities. Then the freezers November second, seven European countries, supermarket refrigeration remotely set to fifty Celsius overnight. Ahold Delhaize, Carrefour, ICA, Coop, IKEA. One store lost a hundred thousand euros. France got hit the month before seven hundred supermarkets, fires, tens of millions lost. No ransom. EU called it food supply sabotage. Thirty plus Minnesota water utilities got locked out in July. The pattern: same AI, different sectors, physical infrastructure now.

Every one of those incidents is a rehearsal. The Siemens warning dropped November second. The freezer attacks hit the same night. That’s not coincidence , that’s sequencing. You don’t warn about a weapon the day after you use it unless you want people to notice the pattern before the real one lands. The Bank of England calling AI a systemic financial risk in October, the EU food commissioner naming sabotage by name, the FBI and NSA putting out a joint alert agencies don’t coordinate that fast unless something’s already in motion.

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Drinkthekoolaid said:

Great post.

Here's a real world example of how the IoT is going to be a serious problem.

There was a day everyone looked at harmless box cutters, as harmless box cutters. They were exploited against us in a novel and creative imaginative way.


Here's an example of someone using a thermostat to cause complete chaos. (I was actually physically in a lobby of the Bellagio first hand and saw this with my own eyes. People were unable to check in for actual hours. They were passing out drinks and food in the check in line. Ik pretty sure the casino paid out a huge ransom to get it resolved. The resort systems were accessed via an aquarium heater wifi thermostat.

https://www.cybersecuritydive.com/news/mgm-resorts-investigates-cyberattack/693351/

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Drinkthekoolaid said:

I joked the other day in the AI thread, that perhaps one day AI will kill us all in our sleep. It will remotely take control of our smart furnaces in the middle of some cold January night at 3am and create a condition which gases us out with carbon monoxide (and remotely switches off our CO detectors that are also connected to the IoT) or perhaps fills our house with natural gas or propane and triggers an explosion. Imagine that scenario playing out in hundreds of millions of households simultaneously in the middle of the night.... That's not as far fetched as it sounds and it's one of about a billion ways serious damage can be done by AI using devices we never suspected.

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Defilade said:

You sound Evil.

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Drinkthekoolaid said:

I joked the other day in the AI thread, that perhaps one day AI will kill us all in our sleep. It will remotely take control of our smart furnaces in the middle of some cold January night at 3am and create a condition which gases us out with carbon monoxide (and remotely switches off our CO detectors that are also connected to the IoT) or perhaps fills our house with natural gas or propane and triggers an explosion. Imagine that scenario playing out in hundreds of millions of households simultaneously in the middle of the night.... That's not as far fetched as it sounds and it's one of about a billion ways serious damage can be done by AI using devices we never suspected.

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