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Bastard! :-) My new blaster is going to be sitting at my LGS till who knows when.....

It's official now. From the clerk's website this morning: The filing office is closed until further notice to the following transaction types: Pistol Permits ......

At this point I wouldn't be surprised if the OP saw all this bickering and thought "maybe I'll ask somewhere else...." Welcome to NYGF!

Especially given the new clerk that is Bello's replacement is anti-gun.

I'd be okay if it was at the bottom of the list, but sounds like it is off the list. Essentially stopping handgun purchases in monroe county.

Clerks office website was updated yesterday to talk about what transactions they are not doing, and this is not listed as one of them. But my LGS said one of his customers tried to amend his permit yesterday morning and was turned away.

Bingo.

I stand by my prediction - she's too powerful and ambitious and evil to be sitting so quietly on the sidelines.

Nope - it'll be Hillary

An honorable quest - I love mine.

Agree. No regrets on my purchase.

Just to tweak @togmaster's statement a little. Too much drop or offset is illegal, and the rules for each division state how much is legal. The BOSS holster I mention in my post can be set up legally for Prod and CO, but also illegally if you go to far with the adjustments.

You'll get some input from some of us here, but for the treasure trove of competitive pistol shooting info, head over to www.brianenos.com. For my Carry Optics and Production guns, I use Double Alpha Academy belts, a BOSS drop offset holster and ghost 360 universal mag pouches. That setup is...

Are you spying on me?

What happens when there are is longer an LGS to go to so that you can experience how some something you want to buy feels in your hand, how the trigger breaks, etc? My take - if you go to that guy's shop and manhandle his inventory, you should give him a chance to give you a reasonable deal...

I think Spat had it right.

https://nygunforum.com/threads/ny-senate-bill-s7065-require-mental-health-eval-to-purchase-gun.35142/

Requires a purchaser of any firearm, rifle or shotgun to submit to a mental health evaluation Mash this link to tell your senator to vote no: https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2019/s7065 Click "nay" over on the right side.

the manboobs in the opening picture are kinda gross.

They'll probably register them as democrats too.

I bought this CRKT Ken Onion Eros a few months ago from BladeHQ, and am liking it a lot. $50 I think. Mash the link below for a video. CRKT Ken Onion Eros

I guess I missed you in the project meetings.... Clearly you know so much about how it went. You're really stretching here man. But, I know you'll want the last word, so please respond to this, then we can be done.

Of course. But that is a far cry from your original statement: Software. We often talk to the tech folks working for vendors we deal with to clear up things that are not clear. It's SOP, not an exception. Certainly we rely on well documented specs - but no matter how well specced an...

A panel of 12 that only needs one with a "whim" to sour the whole thing.

Other than the word arbitrary, I would agree that this is a legit point for sure. But I think there are also times when it is a positive thing.

Holy crap are you serious - claiming that with juries that no emotion is involved? Totally false. They are largely untrained in the facts of the law so in that respect are going more by gut than facts, and they are emotionally manipulated by the prosecution and defense.

Even if our government wasn't dysfunctional, there's no way the written law could keep up with the massively large set of possible facts that could come into play. No argument here. Speaking as a engineer who has been practicing the trade for over 40 years, this statement is utter bullshit.

Yep.

You continue to claim people can't have a personal opinion and be objective. That's just not true. You are wrong here. Have you ever served on a jury in a criminal trial? The jury in a trial decides guilty or not based on charges brought. They don't get to change the charges. The cop...

We'll have to disagree. I just don't see those two circumstances as equal. Perhaps - but it seems like you are assuming that injecting that fouls objectivity at an an unacceptable level, where I think smart people know how to deal with that most of the time - enough of the time to outweigh...

I agree with you about the injustices. But I think there are also justices done because of the same rules. It all depends on the judge. If we elect good ones it works most of the time. I'd rather take that bet than make the whole thing robotic, with no leeway. We just disagree, but I...

I just realized by using @Darth in the example, everyone is gonna vote "yes". :ROFL:

Fuck - you're right....

@Darth, let's say some guy goes out to a bar and gets blotto. His friends try to get him to slow his pace and he tells them to fuck off. They try to take his keys away and he tells them to fuck off. He gets in his car under the influence and kills someone. Now let's also say @Darth is...

So are you suggesting we get rid of judges for sentencing? If the jury finds you guilty then the sentencing is pre-set?

I won't bite on that one - it's a sucker's bet. But I'll go for this one: Because someone has to synthesize all the facts, and see if there's circumstances that need to be taken into account to move the sentencing and rehabilitation needle one way or the other from the min or max or average...

Gonna part ways with you on that one.

What would you consider related? Not talking about parking tickets here, talking about serious crimes. Pretty sure what's on paper is a range for sentencing, and leeway for judges to use past offenses in sentencing habitual criminals. And I think that makes sense. Are you saying you don't?

So commit a series of a certain crime, then switch to another crime and the counter gets reset? :mad:

I completely agree.

I am. For what it costs, I think the magazine is worth it. The articles are okay, I like the ads actually (oooh - didn't know I needed one of those....). They have some interesting info/stats they publish on what equipment people in the various divisions use.

Softie! :) But, good on you!

The "never say thanks" is the decision maker as far as I am concerned.

Agreed the law is vague and going to be problematic. But we've all seen the videos of "innocent bystanders" and "concerned relatives" up in first responders' faces while they are trying to do their jobs, which this is trying to alleviate, I'd like to hear from some of our LEOS / Firemen /...

If you are in Pennsyltucky, ain't it spelled and pernounced "yer welcome"?

Thing is, she'll be royalty in jail, get out, and nothing will change with her. They better confiscate those weaves though - somebody could get hurt by them.

Sounds like the Soros funded challenger to Sandra Doorley here in Monroe County. Hope to voters see through it and spank her challenger just like Doorley's did.

....and two more deliveries of chineseum crap that I did not order. It's starting to creep us out a little. I did a chat with an amazon person who took down the tracking info and said they'd look into it.

Filled it out, but.... If the results are pro-2a, I find it extremely hard to believe that HARVARD would publish them. Guess the best we can hope is we get enough answers in there to derail it from being published as pro-gun control.