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  1. spat

    AND...... Another mass shooting at a school. Far too many are dead.

    Jeffrey Dahmer comes to mind, but your point is valid. There doesn't seem to be a correlation there. But, OTOH, if society tells one group they are oppressed and victims, that does inculcate a sense that they are owed retribution. We see this commonly from whoever the left seems a "victim...
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    AND...... Another mass shooting at a school. Far too many are dead.

    It's textbook, and still the "party of science" doesn't recognize it. Munchausen syndrome by proxy: MedlinePlus Medical Encyclopedia Munchausen syndrome by proxy: MedlinePlus Medical Encyclopedia
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    Upcoming Midterms - How concerned are you

    You can never lay enough traps to get rid of mice if you don't clean up the mess that attracts them.
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    National Guardsmen in New Orleans leaves AR-15 next to the crapper.

    That's like the story about the woman who showed up at the vet's and forgot to bring the dog.
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    Upcoming Midterms - How concerned are you

    We used to do that too, back before they automated the process. Here's a hint .gov. automation is supposed to make things faster, easier, cheaper, and more reliable. The way you automated vote counting you have gone way the wrong direction on all 4 things.
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    Phoenix police shoot homeowner who disabled invader

    Just reinforces the basic rule "know your target", and is a warning not to confuse what you know with what you think.
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    Keeping New Yorkers Safe: Governor Hochul Announces Nation-Leading Proposals to Crack Down on 3D-Printed Guns and Other Illegal Firearms

    It's NY, they would just find an even douchier doche canoe to put in charge. It's not like getting rid of Cuomo actually helped anything. The thing you have to get rid of is the people voting them in.
  8. spat

    Another ICE shooting in MN.

    I generally avoid it where possible, but some left leaning family members tend to not want to cooperate. I'm not going to pretend I agree with them just to keep the peace.
  9. spat

    Another ICE shooting in MN.

    You should remind her that Pretti was a straight white male, and the 2 ICE agents that shot him were both "brown" and hispanic.
  10. spat

    The Adventures of NYC mayor Zohran Mamdani

    It's like a game of hot potato. Whoever's last gets stuck with the bill.
  11. spat

    The Adventures of NYC mayor Zohran Mamdani

    If they think it stinks now, wait till July. Import the 3rd world, smell like the 3rd world.
  12. spat

    Political Picture thread. (humor/memes/etc)

    We haven't had a "pro 2A" administration in a very long time. Maybe JFK ? Best we have is "not rabidly anti-2A".
  13. spat

    Tyranny NY Gun Laws. (CCIA video)

    Have I mentioned how happy we are to be out of that shithole ? Really, the weather is just a nice bonus.
  14. spat

    NY Attorney running against Jumbo James quits

    What's that popular saying about voting your way into communism ? It's possible in NY you might get out without actual gunfire, but the place is going to have to burn down on it's own first.
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    Another ICE shooting in MN.

    There is a specific process described. By definition that's the process they are due, until a court rules otherwise. The main reason that it's much looser than the process for a criminal conviction is that it's much easier to rectify. Someone who is deported erroneously can simply come back...
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    Another ICE shooting in MN.

    I would call any pardon that doesn't list specific people by name, but rather describes a class of people a blanket pardon. The biggest one was when Lincoln pardoned basically the whole confederacy.
  17. spat

    MULTIPLE ICE and FBI vehicles have been DESTROYED and LOOTED by rioters in Minneapolis

    They really don't want to escalate this to the point where people use their "icewatch" app to lure them into an ambush. But the way things are going, it's going to get there.
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    MULTIPLE ICE and FBI vehicles have been DESTROYED and LOOTED by rioters in Minneapolis

    Imagine, they impeach Kristi, and Trump appoints someone who will actually prosecute people LOL.
  19. spat

    MULTIPLE ICE and FBI vehicles have been DESTROYED and LOOTED by rioters in Minneapolis

    Proving conclusively that the 3rd world is a mentality and not a location.
  20. spat

    Another ICE shooting in MN.

    They are 100% entitled to due process. Everyone is entitled to due process. But due process for deportation doesn't look like due process for incarceration. Just like the rules for a civil trial for a lawsuit don't look like the rules for a criminal trial. The current standard for...
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    Another ICE shooting in MN.

    You prioritize the worst, with the understanding that the goal is to deport every single illegal. So, when you arrest Juan pedo, you're likely to find a half dozen of his associates during the process, some of whom might only be guilty of illegal immigration. But, you deport them too, because...
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    Another ICE shooting in MN.

    While I do not have law enforcement experience, I do have formal education on use of force law. The differences between law enforcement and ordinary citizen's justification are very limited and specific. Basically law enforcement doesn't have a duty to retreat in a few cases where ordinary...
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    NYS Pawn Shops

    Most of the ones out here even have an SOT so they can deal with NFA as well. Weird seeing suppressors in with the used cameras and power tools.
  24. spat

    Don Lemon arrested

    Imagine hiring a hit man and then claiming it was just speech so it's protected. This is like that. And he did a lot worse than trespassing.
  25. spat

    MULTIPLE ICE and FBI vehicles have been DESTROYED and LOOTED by rioters in Minneapolis

    Remember, half of America would vote for the Hitler/Stalin ticket if the DNC told them to. They're idiots, and they're only really useful as voters for the cause, because they certainly don't contribute anything else to society.
  26. spat

    Another ICE shooting in MN.

    If you intended this to be a private discussion with Rocpo, then you should have done it in a DM and not a public forum. By posting it here the invitation for anyone with an opinion to join is implicit. I have pointed out your error about use of force multiple times, but I will re-iterate...
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    Another ICE shooting in MN.

    "Caping for my boy" ? Way to illustrate *why* he doesn't want to engage. Do you have any actual logical or factual arguments to make to support your position, or are we just down to Ad Hominem, Ad Nauseum ?
  28. spat

    Another ICE shooting in MN.

    I think he was clear that he didn't care to engage with you on this topic. I can understand why.
  29. spat

    Another ICE shooting in MN.

    What statement did I make that you question ? And it's irrelevant that he was disarmed unless the officers who fired *knew* he had been disarmed. Use of force law in every jurisdiction in the US is based on what the user of that force reasonably believed. Whether they were correct is...
  30. spat

    Another ICE shooting in MN.

    Read my post #257 above, I think I was pretty clear.
  31. spat

    Another ICE shooting in MN.

    Pretti was there to obstruct federal law enforcement, but that's not why he was killed. He was being arrested for that obstruction when he decided to resist that arrest, but that's not why he was killed either. He brought a gun with him to commit that felony obstruction, but even *that* wasn't...
  32. spat

    Don Lemon arrested

    Was he not paying attention when Maduro said that ?
  33. spat

    Political Picture thread. (humor/memes/etc)

    Cast stupid ballots, win stupid prizes.
  34. spat

    24 hours of Democrat control in Virginia, and here's what's happened

    Just bring back "only landowners can vote" that we had in the beginning. Amend the constitution if you need to to make it happen. Almost everyone in the cities rents. While plenty of rural people rent as well, it's less common, and it's much easier to own your property in a rural or small...
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    Upcoming Midterms - How concerned are you

    The real question is "How is that different from the last year". It's not like congress is actually doing anything useful now.
  36. spat

    Upcoming Midterms - How concerned are you

    To be fair, Lincolns actions are the origin of much of the loss of freedom we suffer from today.
  37. spat

    Another ICE shooting in MN.

    I think the biggest, and first mistake by ICE that would have prevented Pretti's death was not arresting him for the incident a week earlier. If he was still sitting in jail from that, he'd be alive today.
  38. spat

    Political Picture thread. (humor/memes/etc)

    Don't even need that. Just shut off the EBT cards and they'll burn the cities to the ground themselves.
  39. spat

    Another ICE shooting in MN.

    Yes, people seem to forget what "terrorism" actually is, and they want to apply it to everyone they disagree with. The operative part of the word "terrorism" is terror. A terrorist is someone attempting to effect political change by causing fear in the civilian population. So, violence isn't...
  40. spat

    MULTIPLE ICE and FBI vehicles have been DESTROYED and LOOTED by rioters in Minneapolis

    The real problem is that they released him the week before. He should have been safely still in jail at the time from his earlier shenanigans. He would be alive today if the earlier agents hadn't let him go. At this point, I really think they should prioritize prosecuting the useful idiots...
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    Another ICE shooting in MN.

    I suspect that there was an ND by the officer who removed the gun. And that was interpreted by other officers who didn't know Pretti had been disarmed at that point as him firing it. While it's a shitty situation all around, the only person breaking the law there was pretti. The officer who...
  42. spat

    Senate Dems considers Appropriation Bill to prohibit ICE from being near polling stations

    Don't forget your plate carrier and NODs
  43. spat

    Ilhan Omar begins to smell BETTER - Sprayed with Fox Urine

    You're assuming it's not a full on Smolet situation. The world may never know.
  44. spat

    Another ICE shooting in MN.

    It's technically and financially not a problem. It's politically that you run into a major roadblock. We're not too far away from having the ability to have an AI process every second of video from every body cam and generate a report about every crime it sees. That could get *very* interesting.
  45. spat

    Another ICE shooting in MN.

    Terrorists ? No. But some of them did commit crimes, and not everything everyone did that day was protected by the constitution.
  46. spat

    Another ICE shooting in MN.

    Literally peaceful speech is all it protects. You don't get to harass people who don't want to listen and call it "speech". Likewise, you don't get to call for violence, at least not specific violence.
  47. spat

    Another ICE shooting in MN.

    The constitution guarantees the right to speak freely, and the right to assembly peaceably. Combining those allows protests, within limits. But there is no right for any protest outside of that, so if you assemble peacefully and nobody wants to listen to what you're saying, there is no right...
  48. spat

    There is currently a big push for Hochul to ban gas-powered lawn/yard equipment in her budget, including snowblowers

    The Soviets stuck the engines off a Mig15 on a train to clear the tracks. You might be on to something. You can skip the auger and everything and just push the snow directly with the afterburner.
  49. spat

    Another ICE shooting in MN.

    Trump has been in office less than a year. How many of the newly hired officers have even finished training and been deployed to the field ? Are there *any* of the newly hired officers in Minneapolis ? If you were running ICE, even if you did have a huge new batch of officers to use, are...
  50. spat

    How to get them off the street ... rioters blocking roads

    It's winter in Minnesota. This is easy.
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