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    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    Well it was a poor choice of words on my part,
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    Security assurances to Russia were written into thier constitution. Russia made it perfectly clear that NATO forces would not be tolerated in Ukriane . James Baker stated not one inch eastward in 2014, Ukraine’s parliament voted to abandon its non-aligned status. [1] vowing to turn over the...
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    Thats because it was not the Budapest memorandum.
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    Yup. what part dont ya get?? Iran can dictate whether cargo ships come and go. As can the US , both sides have some control over what happens
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    sure, for us citizens it is . that doesnt mean I agree to all its foreign policy's , not at all . We can do a hell of a lot better. Couldnt disagree more. the Zionists in control in Israel are insane , They mirror the Third Reich , you'd have to go back a little further back than that ...
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    no. thats not what I said . Neither Iran nor the US actually ""control"" the straight. either side can stop shipping so in a round about way they control the straight just as much as the US does . Iran has weapons that blow the shit out of cargo tanks if they choose . the US really cant stop...
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    I dont think you have the slightest clue . No I dont trust anyone at all . they all lie , You have this concept of myside and their side, good guys vs bad guys . they are all fucking bad . They are ass rapeing the American working man , and small business owner . and do what ever the fuck they...
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    How old are you? You asked how Iran can possibly control the straights, ( why you would even ask such a lame question speaks to your misundering of whats happening there) I gave an answer, and your response is so do we? WTF? Yes that does seem to be the obvious situation . If the US...
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    Well I can see why yours is for sure. Possibly it could be that a Jewish reporter from Tel aiv , is probably going to slant the story. I know that sounds so far far fetched to you because you tend to be guilty of what you just accused me of . You have no concept of how the media really works ...
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    They can control the shipping lanes with mines drones antiship missiles Artillery .Commercial ships cant pass through without insurance . Loyds of London wont insure them , so the ships cant move. So even just a threat to hit shipping , stops shipping through the straight
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    I said dont use pro Israeli sources , which you did. Point is, your sources are biased.Thats what Im getting at. location has little to do with it . Like me pointing out how great the Russian army is doing according to Tass. Doesn't hold a lot of weight
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    For us it was,
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    Al Qaeda, not Taliban The director of the National Security Agency under Ronald Reagan, General William Odom recently remarked, “by any measure the U.S. has long used terrorism. In 1978-79 the Senate was trying to pass a law against international terrorism – in every version they produced, the...
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    written by Dov Lieber in Tel Aviv ??? tell me your joking. But for the sake of argument for the next 6 pages , Ill say its probable , it makes sense. However It doesnt mean Iran is directly attacking Israel , thats a stretch. Weve trained al Queda, Kurds, and just about anyone else that...
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    On the horse shit I posted. """ I assume your refering to the creation of Hamas by Israel . Thing is, you never read what I posted. you dismissed it as horse shit without looking into it. because the thought of it is so outrageous ,( which it is ,) none the less its true. you wouldnt know...
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    Well I just listed israel sources so your the one that's needs to read up on it
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    No problem to post sources then
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    Israeli Support for Hamas: A Strategic Move: Eminent former Israeli officials, such as Brig. Gen. Yitzhak Segev and Avner Cohen, have openly acknowledged Israel’s financial and logistical support for the Palestinian Islamist movement. The Israeli backing of Hamas aimed to strategically...
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    whatever you belive. Im sure you can verify it without pro Israeli sources right? You cant quote from Zionist today magazine
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    At this point yes. We agree( for once) possibly Well, perhaps if We stop killing them, they may reconsider , How's that twisted logic work? If We keep bombing the living shit out of them what would you expect? Especially when Trump could have told Bibi the butcher No, We cant join your...
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    So your saying the Israel and the US attacked Iran was self defense? Oh boy .If thats what you believe, How do you see this mess ending? A simple regime change? Is that what you think? knock off the bad apples and the rest of Iran will be waving American and Israeli flags on their porches...
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    thats the thing it isnt propaganda. If you would take some time and look it up you would know that, but you dont want to hear the truth. They are butchering people with your tax dollars . No they revoked my Hamas card because my tax dollars were being spent to kill them
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    Nah theyre going for the whole population, over 20,000 kids dead so far . and you paid for it
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    Oh the professional victims excuse . like the syrians they bombed for that last ten yerars? they were in the middle of a civil war and Isreal kept bombing them almost daily. syrians couldnt even hit them back
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    What are you drinking? they just attacked iran . Man your in denial of reality
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    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/DZgNBXIZ-OU?feature=share
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    I got no problem with that. bullshit. No I never hated people because they were Jewish. I dont hate muslims because they are muslim I dont hate black people because they're black . Zionism is a fairly recent militant ideology that has little to do with the Jewish faith. what I do hate is...
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    they get emotional when they are not understood too. My country comes first .
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    Anti semitic UN: UN GENEVA – Israel has committed genocide against Palestinians in the Gaza Strip, the UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem, and Israel said in a new report today. The Commission urges Israel and all...
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    Buffalo police - officer involved shooting for a man stabbing cops

    Somebody that stabbed a cop and himself is showing a total disregard for life, and poses a danger to anyone near him . I understand your point , but the guy was a fucking nut and could have easily hurt somebody .
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    #1 your an idiot. Ive stated several times I am ANTI zionist. Theres a huge difference. #2 I was pointing out the fact that nobody gives a fuck about Iranians , I really dont myself , I guess Im anti Iranian too, fact is, Im indifferent to the people themselves but I do give a shit about...
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    What looks kinda foolish is that you think the US government cares about the people of Iran. Shit, You think Trump spent any time there? LOL, Nobody gives a flying fuck about them . Its almost as if nobody notices we've been beating the shit out of Israels enemy's for the last 30 years . One day...
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    It was early reports. Sounded like Attacks were just beginning,cut me a little slack. It's not like we didn't attack them twice before during negotiations
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    Looks like the bombing has begun
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    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/pentagon-urged-no-resumption-strikes-iran-grew-more-effective-tracking-us-air-ops-nyt Not sure I really buy this, but here it is President Trump had on Monday announced he agreed to pause planned Iran strikes, which were supposedly going to resume...
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    He's buying time. and the midterms are comming up. He's pulling troops from from everywhere and marshaling an army worthy of Mordor. Personally, Any strikes now are almost worthless , We destroyed a lot , but we cant finish the job. its going to require ground troops ,and ground troops are...
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    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ccec-3nIgDI
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    Me thinks they will obtain ready to use weapons, If it looks like the west is amassing an army , somebody will most likely sell give them a few dozen
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    This is correct. The problem is, this cant be done by air alone. its going to require a real war on the ground. Thats where we part ways . I find it morally, ethically, financially wrong on every level , right now it looks like preparations are being made just for that Honestly, I think...
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    They need Iran neutralized. Not a ceasefire. They want them out of the picture . Since the US will aid and help fund it It makes sense to continue .
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    No I did not.( if I understand your question correctly.) I never backed Ukraine for some of the same reasons I dont back Israel
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    And yet you dont know what the official justifications were. specifically?
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    Understood, so Im asking you what is the case for war against Iran ? Officially, not interpretive .
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    So what. it doesnt make anything she said untrue.
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    The American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) is a prominent, bipartisan 501(c)(4) non-profit organization that lobbies the U.S. Congress to strengthen, protect, and promote the U.S.-Israel relationship. Operating with over 100,000 members and substantial fundraising, it acts as a major...
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    ewish opposition to Zionism stems from diverse religious and political perspectives, ranging from ultra-Orthodox theological objections to secular, progressive concerns over Palestinian rights. While a minority in the overall Jewish community, these groups argue that Zionism equates Jewish...
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    Zionism is a political ideology cloaked in a religious ideology , Judism and zionism are not the same thing https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3jdONbR7rcI https://www.youtube.com/shorts/q6Wzwg_3f0Y
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