D.C. proposal would let police take guns from people accused of domestic abuse

[Madmallard]

The D.C. Council on Tuesday could pass new laws restricting the ability of gun owners to modify weapons and require police to seize guns while enforcing protective orders in domestic disputes. The latter provision - known as a "red flag law" - is gaining popularity, with variants implemented in more than a dozen states, including Maryland. The D.C. version would mandate that authorities take firearms out of the hands of suspected abusers more quickly than is permitted under existing laws. Other proposed laws, if passed, would the ban rapid-fire attachments known as bump stocks and increase penalties for extended magazines, accessories that allow guns to fire faster and hold more

The package, the Firearms Safety Omnibus Amendment Act, unanimously passed the council during its first hearing on Dec. 4. The final vote is Tuesday.

D.C. proposal would let police take guns from people accused of domestic abuse

 

[Blimey]

2nd amendment plays second fiddle again; a right taken away without conviction. Somebody deemed so potentially violent this needs to be done should be jailed pending trial as is common with violent offenders. If somebody is potentially likely to do something with their gun they can just as easily with a knife or their hands.

 

[@thewheels]

These dick bags are actually insane:

The administration of Democratic Mayor Muriel Bowser supports the package of proposed laws, but it objects to an immunity clause that says the subject of a protective order who has illegal firearms seized cannot be criminally charged.

They cut right through the shit and the agenda is on full display: Legal gun owners are the target.

 

[Grimscale]

So, they can criminally charge you for possessing a lawfully acquired item, based on an unsubstantiated rumor from someone else, when you are not formally charged with anything, nor have you been taken to Court and had your Rights curtailed by a Judge after having a chance to defend yourself from false accusations.
Tell me again how this has ANY chance of standing up in a real Court of Law?
Tell me again how these tyrants cannot be prosecuted for what is obviously an infringement on the Civil Rights of Law-abiding citizens?


Little by little we are running out of "boxes".

 

[GOYABEAN]

Morden day witch hunt History repeated

 

[Saltwater60]

They are doing this in nys right now. My dad is a cop and has done this. I don’t agree with it, but be warned it’s already happening. It’s happening for domestic incidents where there is no crime committed, no charges filed, and no restraining order requested. You could get in an arguement with your wife, a neighbor could call the police because they hate you, and with no crime committed your guns are gone. It took the one guy involved that my dad is aware 2 years to get his guns back and it had to go to NYS Supreme Court in appeals because the police refused to accept lower court orders stating to give his guns back. You’ll get judges not willing to sign this order to return your guns.

 

[Podmonkey]

Cold dead motherfucking hands. And surrounded by corpses.

 

[VietnamEraVet]

They are doing this in nys right now. My dad is a cop and has done this. I don’t agree with it, but be warned it’s already happening. It’s happening for domestic incidents where there is no crime committed, no charges filed, and no restraining order requested. You could get in an arguement with your wife, a neighbor could call the police because they hate you, and with no crime committed your guns are gone. It took the one guy involved that my dad is aware 2 years to get his guns back and it had to go to NYS Supreme Court in appeals because the police refused to accept lower court orders stating to give his guns back. You’ll get judges not willing to sign this order to return your guns.

Yep, - been through it a few years back. 911 call made, cops come. Report filed. No charges, - not even any accusations. Then, all it took was one anti 2A dickwad (IMHO) to write to the pistol permit office demanding that my handguns be taken away. Permit suspended. Had to go to Supreme Court w/ lawyer, and testify to get permit reinstated. Then, Will Fowler of the PPO buried the court order reinstating my permit for a couple of months... Next, the cops dragged their feet for weeks to keep me from getting my guns back.

Now, my guns and I are safely in NC, and that anti gun dickwad (again, IMHO) can fuck off!

The problem will only get magnified with these red flag laws because there is no penalty against those making false accusations that take away our due process.

Be very careful out there. And remember: he who calls 911 and gets through first is the complainant. The other guy is the respondent. And you don't want to be the respondent. FUAC!

 

[Podmonkey]

Making false accusations should result in capital punishment.

 

[Jmac00]

I believe it says in the constitution that the government can not size property without just compensation? so confiscating private property is against the constitution? Correct

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Taking away a right on the presumption of guilt is so unamerican. Its contrary to every value we have..

Where's the ACLU on this??

 

[Acer-m14]

2015 .. remember

Carol Bowne knew her best shot at defending herself from a violent ex was a gun, and not a piece of paper. And it was paperwork that left her unprotected when Michael Eitel showed up at her New Jersey home last week and stabbed her to death.

John Wayne Bobbitt and Lorena Bobbitt were an American couple, married on June 18, 1989, whose relationship made world-wide headlines in 1993 when Lorena cut off her husband's penis with a knife while he was asleep in bed.

goes both ways .. . AND NO GUN .. fk them all