I'm dumping Newsmax - it's worse than FOX !

[CaseHardened]

Right here:

President Donald Trump so far has refused to concede -- citing baseless claims of fraud

And this has not been the first time Newsmax has been ANTI-AMERICAN.

I'm deleting all links and icons to this wretched "news" site.

 

[Phazer]

Right here:

President Donald Trump so far has refused to concede -- citing baseless claims of fraud

And this has not been the first time Newsmax has been ANTI-AMERICAN.

I'm deleting all links and icons to this wretched "news" site.

They're posting a Bloomberg news article ("© Copyright 2020 Bloomberg News. All rights reserved.")

NewsMax probably does not have the resources to write their own articles and maintain their own news desks all over the country.

Write to them and explain that they need to source their news from better companies.

 

[Mr. terzmo]

I never watch CNN or MSN and quit Fox and all the major news outlets since the election. They all only tell You what is their agenda and the real tryth ,unless in their favor, never gets out.

 

[kev74]

That was quick!

 

[SomeSoldier]

I don't trust most new sites they are only after viewship that is it. I watch Blaze, that is all and some of these people are full of shit too.

 

[CaseHardened]

They're posting a Bloomberg news article ("© Copyright 2020 Bloomberg News. All rights reserved.")

NewsMax probably does not have the resources to write their own articles and maintain their own news desks all over the country.

Write to them and explain that they need to source their news from better companies.

And exactly how does this absolve them ?

It's crap links that I dumped DRUDGE for.

 

[Phazer]

And exactly how does this absolve them ?

It's crap links that I dumped DRUDGE for.

It doesn't.

If they want to be THE conservative go-to site, then they need to be more selective in the wire services to which they post links.

 

[CaseHardened]

It doesn't.

If they want to be THE conservative go-to site, then they need to be more selective in the wire services to which they post links.

Honestly, I see sh*t like this every day I visit Newsmax.

They're getting worse, not better.

 

[Darth]

You know, at some point you have to admit it might not just be that the whole world is against you..

 

[CaseHardened]

Write to them and explain that they need to source their news from better companies.

I took your suggestion:

Thune Sees Challenge to Biden Win Going Down Like 'Shot Dog'

The Senate's No. 2 Republican said Monday that any attempt by a handful of House conservatives to challenge the Electoral College's results proclaiming Joe Biden the next president is "going down like a shot dog."Senator John Thune said he knows of no senators who have...

www.newsmax.com

You have been posting Anti-Trump content like this for a long time.

I have lost my patience, and you have lost a viewer.

 

[CaseHardened]

You know, at some point you have to admit it might not just be that the whole world is against you..

I have "Blocked" over 50 people on Facebook.

And now Newsmax.

I just don't need the aggravation.

 

[Blimey]

Do you want news, or do you want cheerleading? Proper news includes--and we all know this--objective, contrary opinions and debate. If you want a news site to be 100% pro trump all the time, you won't find it. Because it's not news then--it's propaganda.

I've seen an alarming number of people on this forum abandon mainstream media due to its left wing bias (which is perfectly fine) but instead of embracing something more moderate that nonetheless maybe, just sometimes, says something they don't like, they seek ultra hardcore right-wing shitpost sites that are not worth a bucket of puke. This is not how to become informed, and is why so many people continue to have not one iota about what's going on in actual reality.

 

[spat]

Do you want news, or do you want cheerleading? Proper news includes--and we all know this--objective, contrary opinions and debate. If you want a news site to be 100% pro trump all the time, you won't find it. Because it's not news then--it's propaganda.

I've seen an alarming number of people on this forum abandon mainstream media due to its left wing bias (which is perfectly fine) but instead of embracing something more moderate that nonetheless maybe, just sometimes, says something they don't like, they seek ultra hardcore right-wing shitpost sites that are not worth a bucket of puke. This is not how to become informed, and is why so many people continue to have not one iota about what's going on in actual reality.

There are *no* real news sources anymore.

Just opinion masquerading as news.

Another sign that it is truly underway. "Truth is the first casualty..."

 

[Catskillkid]

I dislike bias as much as the next person, and the major networks (ABC, CBS, NBC) and CNN and MSNBC (so most all of them) are biased toward the left in one degree or another. But folks need to stop fooling themselves that Fox and Newsmax aren't any more biased but for the right.

It's a challenge but you need to get a diversity of news for your information. When I was commuting regularly I would listen to NPR in the car which while certainly biased to the left wasn't egregiously so on most topics (their Trump Derangement Syndrome notwithstanding). I'd also try to read some articles from Fox, Breitbart or similar sources to balance it out and see what if anything I was missing.

Putting yourself in an echo chamber of your own making doesn't help you or anyone else. The role I've taken is to watch/listen to mainstream sources to get a sense of what is going on but then to try and research the issue deeper to get the details. Basically going to the primary sources (if you've ever done historical research you know what I'm talking about). I supplement that with reading/listening to figures from different backgrounds (though admittedly for me mostly conservative authors/speakers) to get a better philosophical understanding of the world we live in. You can't do this with everything (unless you're retired and do nothing else but sit on a computer all day otherwise who has the time for that) but that's the best most of us can do.

Propaganda is still propaganda regardless of its source.

 

[Catskillkid]

There are *no* real news sources anymore.

Just opinion masquerading as news.

Another sign that it is truly underway. "Truth is the first casualty..."

This 100%. We live in a world of "infotainment."

I often wonder if instead of shit like "The Masked Singer" and "Dancing with the Stars" or even sporting events, if channels had actual courses and lectures on various topics from speakers with a diversity of ideologies what our national discourse would really be like.

 

[spat]

This 100%. We live in a world of "infotainment."

I often wonder if instead of shit like "The Masked Singer" and "Dancing with the Stars" or even sporting events, if channels had actual courses and lectures on various topics from speakers with a diversity of ideologies what our national discourse would really be like.

Those exist.

The internet has made broadcast video as obsolete as VHS tapes.

The idea of "channels" is as antiquated as as a disposable camera.

Here's one example, there are many more.

"MIT OpenCourseWare | Free Online Course Materials" MIT OpenCourseWare | Free Online Course Materials

There was an unfortunate development a few years ago where some absolute tool sued UC Berkeley and forced them to take all of theirs down because it wasn't ADA accessible. "If your lectures aren't available with closed captions then nobody should be able to see them"....

"U of California, Berkeley, to delete publicly available educational content" U of California, Berkeley, to delete publicly available educational content

 

[GOPerfect]

Do you want news, or do you want cheerleading? Proper news includes--and we all know this--objective, contrary opinions and debate. If you want a news site to be 100% pro trump all the time, you won't find it. Because it's not news then--it's propaganda.

I've seen an alarming number of people on this forum abandon mainstream media due to its left wing bias (which is perfectly fine) but instead of embracing something more moderate that nonetheless maybe, just sometimes, says something they don't like, they seek ultra hardcore right-wing shitpost sites that are not worth a bucket of puke. This is not how to become informed, and is why so many people continue to have not one iota about what's going on in actual reality.

I have dropped most news outlets due to the lies that they all seem to spew.

I do not need an echo chamber... I want facts. Nothing more, nothing less.

I do not need their opinions.

 

[Catskillkid]

Those exist.

The internet has made broadcast video as obsolete as VHS tapes.

The idea of "channels" is as antiquated as as a disposable camera.

Here's one example, there are many more.

"MIT OpenCourseWare | Free Online Course Materials" MIT OpenCourseWare | Free Online Course Materials

There was an unfortunate development a few years ago where some absolute tool sued UC Berkeley and forced them to take all of theirs down because it wasn't ADA accessible. "If your lectures aren't available with closed captions then nobody should be able to see them"....

"U of California, Berkeley, to delete publicly available educational content" U of California, Berkeley, to delete publicly available educational content

Sure, there's a plethora of resources online that do this, but it's still not "popular media" at least not in my mind. What it comes down to is people don't want to be challenged, neither physically nor intellectually.

On a side note my organization is dealing with the ADA crap now too. While I'm sympathetic to folks with disabilities it can be a giant pain in the ass to make documents ADA compliant. To me it's either that or visually appealing. You really can't have both.

 

[MothMan]

I never watch CNN or MSN and quit Fox and all the major news outlets since the election. They all only tell You what is their agenda and the real tryth ,unless in their favor, never gets out.

THIS^^^

I have dropped most news outlets due to the lies that they all seem to spew.

I do not need an echo chamber... I want facts. Nothing more, nothing less.

I do not need their opinions.

And THIS^^^

I have stopped watching or listening to any, including Rush, propaganda from the Ministry of Truth. Feel so much better for it. Their continual agitprop is meant for those addicted to outrage is just distraction. At the start of my 8th decade all I need to know is what I can see, feel and taste in front of me. Everything else is distraction which is being used so well upon the masses. I continue to prepare.

 

[drowhawk]

Plugging your ears and singing, "LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA" won't change a thing.

You will only become more ignorant and unaware of what little fact is left in our world. There are still plenty of facts to be had you just need to be willing to accept them.

I agree it is hard to trust any news source anymore but our politicians are even less trustworthy. I actually found myself cheering AOC yesterday when she acknowledged there was no way this latest stimulus bill was read. Obviously Cruz and Paul spoke out about the same deal but I almost always agree with those two. I NEVER thought I would be defending something AOC said.

 

[Catskillkid]

Plugging your ears and singing, "LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA" won't change a thing.

You will only become more ignorant and unaware of what little fact is left in our world. There are still plenty of facts to be had you just need to be willing to accept them.

I agree it is hard to trust any news source anymore but our politicians are even less trustworthy. I actually found myself cheering AOC yesterday when she acknowledged there was no way this latest stimulus bill was read. Obviously Cruz and Paul spoke out about the same deal but I almost always agree with those two. I NEVER thought I would be defending something AOC said.

I was surprised by this too. Did not expect that coming from her. I'll give credit where credit is due.

 

[Phazer]

I'll continue to do the oppo research for you. Hang tight!

 

[Blimey]

There are *no* real news sources anymore.

Just opinion masquerading as news.

Another sign that it is truly underway. "Truth is the first casualty..."

It's all biased to varying degrees. I have experimented a bit visiting allsides.com, which is an interesting concept. Basically they know news is biased, so when they post they include a rating of how biased the source of that news is, based on various ratings. They also include how many of their viewership agree with the ratings. It's far from perfect, but you can go to the side and specifically get only news from left or from right or from center places.

I have dropped most news outlets due to the lies that they all seem to spew.

I do not need an echo chamber... I want facts. Nothing more, nothing less.

I do not need their opinions.

I've tried the ignorance is bliss approach (though you may not be arguing for that here), and there is much to be said for it. But, ultimately, I'm too weak to just stop reading the news, even though I know almost all of it is worthless. By this I mean even when it's objectively true, factual, reasonable...it's still worthless to my life in most cases. Most of it I can't do a thing about.

 

[CaseHardened]

"President Donald Trump so far has refused to concede -- citing baseless claims of fraud -- and urged his supporters to carry on the fight."

This is an obvious lie.

I will support no "news" outlet that repeats it.

All they had to do was state FACTS, for instance:
"President Donald Trump so far has refused to concede -- citing baseless claims of fraud -- and urged his supporters to carry on the fight."

 

[Darth]

I have "Blocked" over 50 people on Facebook.

And now Newsmax.

I just don't need the aggravation.

I've never blocked anyone.

 

[CaseHardened]

I've never blocked anyone.

But I'm a sensitive soul.

 

[BDinPutnam]

"President Donald Trump so far has refused to concede -- citing baseless claims of fraud -- and urged his supporters to carry on the fight."

This is an obvious lie.

I will support no "news" outlet that repeats it.

All they had to do was state FACTS, for instance:
"President Donald Trump so far has refused to concede -- citing baseless claims of fraud -- and urged his supporters to carry on the fight."

38 or so state and federal courts- including a bunch of judges appointed by Trump- disagree with your assessment of the "evidence."

 

[redtail]

Ministry of truth is omnipresent.

 

[SonOfSun]

This 100%. We live in a world of "infotainment."

I often wonder if instead of shit like "The Masked Singer" and "Dancing with the Stars" or even sporting events, if channels had actual courses and lectures on various topics from speakers with a diversity of ideologies what our national discourse would really be like.

TLC used to be the learning channel with actual information on it. Now it's honey boo boo and garbage like that. It's like that because that's what America demanded. Face it, America is now one long deserted strip mall with a population that wants to watch the televised freak show.

 

[Catskillkid]

TLC used to be the learning channel with actual information on it. Now it's honey boo boo and garbage like that. It's like that because that's what America demanded. Face it, America is now one long deserted strip mall with a population that wants to watch the televised freak show.

Remember when the History Channel had actual history on it? I (and Pepperidge Farm) remembers. I actually credit the old black and white WWII documentaries with teaching me not just about the war but also politics and even economics.