Statement from Assemblymember Jo Anne Simon on the Mass Subway Shooting in Sunset Park
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kev74
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Gun control doesn't work so we need more gun control?
She's a moron.
She's a moron.
Dr. Evil
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Maybe this bitch should question why the guy was dropped from the FBI watch list.
These events also demonstrate why New York’s laws limiting the concealed carrying of firearms are needed to protect the public.
Actually the statistics show that more guns in the hands of law abiding citizens lowers crime you moron.
The last two years have been extraordinarily stressful for our country and New Yorkers, and COVID has disproportionately impacted those who are marginalized, economically at risk, and too often housing and food insecure. Economic desperation and stress and trauma from COVID are linked to the uptick in gun violence, which is facilitated by the fact that guns are just too easy to get.
Oh, yeah, it's because of covid. Never mind the bail reform situation. Not to mention the lock downs, closing of business, etc. that did NOTHING but destroy people financially. You know, the policy that you probably backed. They will NEVER let the covid BS go.
Not that she will even read it but I just sent her an email with my "thoughts."
These events also demonstrate why New York’s laws limiting the concealed carrying of firearms are needed to protect the public.
Actually the statistics show that more guns in the hands of law abiding citizens lowers crime you moron.
The last two years have been extraordinarily stressful for our country and New Yorkers, and COVID has disproportionately impacted those who are marginalized, economically at risk, and too often housing and food insecure. Economic desperation and stress and trauma from COVID are linked to the uptick in gun violence, which is facilitated by the fact that guns are just too easy to get.
Oh, yeah, it's because of covid. Never mind the bail reform situation. Not to mention the lock downs, closing of business, etc. that did NOTHING but destroy people financially. You know, the policy that you probably backed. They will NEVER let the covid BS go.
Not that she will even read it but I just sent her an email with my "thoughts."
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gunpoliticsny
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Show me a press release or media statement from any arguably 2A group highlighting the failure of New York's gun control laws.
Show me a press release or media statement from any arguably 2A group calling for right-to-carry or other pro-gun reforms in light of the subway incident.
**crickets chirping**
Show me a press release or media statement from any arguably 2A group calling for right-to-carry or other pro-gun reforms in light of the subway incident.
**crickets chirping**
I have a statement as well....
In regards to her statement and her stating of the facts, she is wrong. She is wrong on many levels. NY State does not, as a matter of fact have one of the lowest gun death rates in the Nation. NY State is 19th in gun deaths. What she is doing is screwing with numbers, numbers of deaths per 100,000 people. This is a horrible way of looking at the stats. NY State had more than 1050 killings by firearms in 2020. She claims that NY numbers are lower, as per the 100,00 persons rule.
Do we have a gun issue here in the US? I say, absolutely NOT. I have said this many times, online and in person. What we have is an asshole problem, a cultural issue and a demographics problem. NOT a gun one.
There are far more guns in the Suburbs and the Rural Areas of America and gun deaths in these two areas is tiny compared to the larger city's. The Town that I live in, one firearm related death was committed last year. The person that did the shooting and the killing, he came in from the city to rob, steal and kill. For the most part, killings of this nature do not happen in the better neighborhoods and in the sticks.
As to my point of having an asshole problem. Some people and some groups of people are a cancer upon society. Want to solve this perceived gun issue? Go into the areas of high gun law violations and gun related crimes. Prosecute heavy on gun related charges. Mandatory minimums for and crime in which a gun was used. Sentence all violators to a minimum of 10-15 years per gun charge, on top of whatever crime they committed. Nearly all residents of an area knows where the high crime is. Here in the Buffalo area, the vast majority of serious crime is located on the East side of the city. Go there and flush out the scumbags like the cockroaches that they are. Go after them hard.
These elected tards are coming up with every excuse they can to minimize the uptick in crime. This broad is no different:
COVID has disproportionately impacted those who are marginalized, economically at risk, and too often housing and food insecure. Economic desperation and stress and trauma from COVID are linked to the uptick in gun violence, which is facilitated by the fact that guns are just too easy to get.
Blaming the Covid Hoax, which was created by the same people, is a bad excuse for this cancer. Some people just suck. Some people are not fit to be in the same type of society as normal and good people.
I often here these elected pukes talk about the serious Mental Health issues that are raging. Okay, not that I believe this shit, but if true, build more MH hospitals and lock these people up. Forever if necessary. They also say there is a serious uptick in hard drug usage, this may be true. This is not an excuse for criminal behavior. If the drug use is so bad, completely shit down the southern boarder and stop using Narcan to bring these people back to life. They will only use again and again.
In regards to her statement and her stating of the facts, she is wrong. She is wrong on many levels. NY State does not, as a matter of fact have one of the lowest gun death rates in the Nation. NY State is 19th in gun deaths. What she is doing is screwing with numbers, numbers of deaths per 100,000 people. This is a horrible way of looking at the stats. NY State had more than 1050 killings by firearms in 2020. She claims that NY numbers are lower, as per the 100,00 persons rule.
Do we have a gun issue here in the US? I say, absolutely NOT. I have said this many times, online and in person. What we have is an asshole problem, a cultural issue and a demographics problem. NOT a gun one.
There are far more guns in the Suburbs and the Rural Areas of America and gun deaths in these two areas is tiny compared to the larger city's. The Town that I live in, one firearm related death was committed last year. The person that did the shooting and the killing, he came in from the city to rob, steal and kill. For the most part, killings of this nature do not happen in the better neighborhoods and in the sticks.
As to my point of having an asshole problem. Some people and some groups of people are a cancer upon society. Want to solve this perceived gun issue? Go into the areas of high gun law violations and gun related crimes. Prosecute heavy on gun related charges. Mandatory minimums for and crime in which a gun was used. Sentence all violators to a minimum of 10-15 years per gun charge, on top of whatever crime they committed. Nearly all residents of an area knows where the high crime is. Here in the Buffalo area, the vast majority of serious crime is located on the East side of the city. Go there and flush out the scumbags like the cockroaches that they are. Go after them hard.
These elected tards are coming up with every excuse they can to minimize the uptick in crime. This broad is no different:
COVID has disproportionately impacted those who are marginalized, economically at risk, and too often housing and food insecure. Economic desperation and stress and trauma from COVID are linked to the uptick in gun violence, which is facilitated by the fact that guns are just too easy to get.
Blaming the Covid Hoax, which was created by the same people, is a bad excuse for this cancer. Some people just suck. Some people are not fit to be in the same type of society as normal and good people.
I often here these elected pukes talk about the serious Mental Health issues that are raging. Okay, not that I believe this shit, but if true, build more MH hospitals and lock these people up. Forever if necessary. They also say there is a serious uptick in hard drug usage, this may be true. This is not an excuse for criminal behavior. If the drug use is so bad, completely shit down the southern boarder and stop using Narcan to bring these people back to life. They will only use again and again.
As for a few facts in this case....
Fact: the gun was legally purchased by him in Ohio.
Fact: He was known to the FBI for previous threats and violent statements.
Fact: The FBI knew he had a gun and ignored it.
Sounds like the FBI is the issue. Not gun laws in NYS.
These are facts, not feelings.
Fact: the gun was legally purchased by him in Ohio.
Fact: He was known to the FBI for previous threats and violent statements.
Fact: The FBI knew he had a gun and ignored it.
Sounds like the FBI is the issue. Not gun laws in NYS.
These are facts, not feelings.
Acer-m14
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yeah .. where is NYSRPA .. SCOPE ... New York State Firearms Association ..
Matters not the organization, none will be forthcoming...you know that as well as I do.
Pick a pro-gun web site and they'll all be clamoring about the idiocy of the anti-gunners, and the Anti's will be shreaking how we need more Laws, and how taking the guns will solve everything...it's a game the advocates from both sides have a questionable desire to win.
Jmac00
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lets boil this down to the bare minimum.
its not the guns fault, its not the criminals fault.
This is totally, completely on the democRATs. They are the ones demanding criminal reform. They are the ones defunding the police. They are the ones pushing catch & release. they are the ones electing pussy ass DA's
The entire problem is, THEY STILL OWN the voting machines, and no one is left in this country to stand up and physically take the country back.
so get use to this bullshit, its going to be with us for a long time or untill certain elements of the One World order are removed from the planet
its not the guns fault, its not the criminals fault.
This is totally, completely on the democRATs. They are the ones demanding criminal reform. They are the ones defunding the police. They are the ones pushing catch & release. they are the ones electing pussy ass DA's
The entire problem is, THEY STILL OWN the voting machines, and no one is left in this country to stand up and physically take the country back.
so get use to this bullshit, its going to be with us for a long time or untill certain elements of the One World order are removed from the planet
Has this ignorant putz ever actually TRIED to buy a gun? Especially in New York? ESPECIALLY in New York City?
Oh, wait:
Oh, shit... there it is. Their justification for forcing their unConsitutional bullshit Nation-wide.
"That other State over there isn't abiding by our infringements. We need to force EVERYONE to jump through our hoops! WAAHHHH!"
But, let's conveniently ignore:
So this person, known for threats and violence (which would have triggered a red-flag law infringement) was somehow able to buy a gun, even with all of the FEDERAL restrictions on buying guns.
S&W Fan
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The 10-15 year sentencing is ,as you well know ,a long standing Federal minimum for convictions of perps committing a crime with a firearm. They can be enhanced if the perp has priors. The problem… prosecutors rarely if Ever seek the Federal minimus , citing the cost of trial as the main reason. (sic)
They would rather cop a plea for a conviction, and point to their record as a hard nosed prosecutor rather than do the right thing and put these scumbags away for as long as possible.
S&W Fan
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It’s always something or someone else’s fault with theses mentally ill liberal politicians. We need to bring back state funded mental institutions to house these morons.
96coal449
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"....trafficked in through the Iron Pipeline from other states with lax gun laws."
How about we just blow the bridges and close the borders of NYC?
How about we just blow the bridges and close the borders of NYC?
I realize this is Preaching to the Choir, but does anyone else take issue with this portion of her statement?
"...he NYS Rifle and Pistol Association, an NRA affiliate, has challenged the constitutionality of one of the most important laws that has kept New Yorkers safe for a century. The Supreme Court is expected to rule on this case this summer. We should all be very clear that a finding of unconstitutionality is unacceptable..."
So SCOTUS decides a State Law is in violation of the Constitution (the same one the State's is drawn upon) and because she doesn't like it it's "unacceptable".
FWIW: I did e-mail her Office, and we'll see what if anything comes back.
"...he NYS Rifle and Pistol Association, an NRA affiliate, has challenged the constitutionality of one of the most important laws that has kept New Yorkers safe for a century. The Supreme Court is expected to rule on this case this summer. We should all be very clear that a finding of unconstitutionality is unacceptable..."
So SCOTUS decides a State Law is in violation of the Constitution (the same one the State's is drawn upon) and because she doesn't like it it's "unacceptable".
FWIW: I did e-mail her Office, and we'll see what if anything comes back.
gunpoliticsny
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Brooklyn Subway Shooting Highlights Dangers of Adverse Ruling in Supreme Court Case.
Antis have no problem promoting their position. Anything from any 2A people? No.
Carlos Hathcock
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Bitch that ran over a police officer (trooper Ensminger I believe) during the BLM riot season, had federal gun charges dropped this morning. Teaching people it's OK to make shit choices. Others see it a see a green light.
Steal2B
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GOA issued this a day before your request. Just saw your request.
GOA Slams NYC Mayor’s Lousy ‘Tough-on-Crime’ Strategy Amid the City’s Skyrocketing Crime and Subway Shooting | GOA
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE April 12, 2022 Washington, D.C. – Gun Owners of America (GOA) slams New York City Mayor Eric Adams’ failed “tough-on-crime” policies amid today’s NYC subway shooting and the skyrocketing crime that increased 14.5 percent from 2021. This past November, the Supreme Court...
www.gunowners.org
Aidan Johnston, GOA’s Director of Federal Affairs, commented:
“Increased police presence cannot stop every tragedy. Once again, NYC’s gun control demonstrated that it has no impact.
“You are your own first responder. We need to empower individuals to defend themselves and exercise their right to bear arms—especially in public places.
“Only by taking up arms and shooting back can Americans restore public safety and take control out of the hands of violent criminals.”
GOA spokesmen are available for interviews
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gunpoliticsny
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That's weak, but at least it was something.
Mr. terzmo
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These events also demonstrate why New York’s laws limiting the concealed carrying of firearms are needed to protect the public.
"New York's laws limiting the concealed carry of firearms are needed"
Right from the horses mouth, (or other end if preferred) an admission of "infringement"
"New York's laws limiting the concealed carry of firearms are needed"
Right from the horses mouth, (or other end if preferred) an admission of "infringement"
kev74
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I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that NYSRPA, NRA and other interested parties have been advised to not say anything until the verdict comes out for NYSRPA vs. Bruen. There's a lot at stake, and it might not be worth pissing off some of the more temperamental supremes.
GOA and SAF are usually pretty good about putting out statements about this stuff, and even they have been quiet.
GOA and SAF are usually pretty good about putting out statements about this stuff, and even they have been quiet.
gunpoliticsny
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No.
Steal2B
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GOA had a press release at least
GOA Slams NYC Mayor’s Lousy ‘Tough-on-Crime’ Strategy Amid the City’s Skyrocketing Crime and Subway Shooting | GOA
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE April 12, 2022 Washington, D.C. – Gun Owners of America (GOA) slams New York City Mayor Eric Adams’ failed “tough-on-crime” policies amid today’s NYC subway shooting and the skyrocketing crime that increased 14.5 percent from 2021. This past November, the Supreme Court...
www.gunowners.org
Acer-m14
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News - New York State Firearms Association
www.newyorkstatefirearmsassociation.org
crickets ...
Dr. Evil
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So I actually heard back from her or someone in her office. This was their response:
"Please advise of your physical residential address for our records."
To which I replied:
"I'd be happy to once you address my points."
"Please advise of your physical residential address for our records."
To which I replied:
"I'd be happy to once you address my points."
I can see that, but would rather believe SCOTUS is above the Court of Public Opinion when deciding Constitutional matters....'course the Liberal/Left Wing Judges would rather Rule based on their beliefs and marching orders opposed to the Documentation that Founded the Country.
Do a simple search on the name Aaron Dorr across multiple States and indictments....His Organization isn't exactly what it claims.News - New York State Firearms Association
crickets ...
Steal2B
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From my cheap seats, reading the suggested search results concerning abusive fundraising, fleecing frustrated pro 2A citizens, spending irregularities and questionable tax filings sure makes the Dorrs sound like other versions of tom king and wayne lapierre whose NRA and NYSPRA "organization isn't exactly what it claims."Do a simple search on the name Aaron Dorr across multiple States and indictments....His Organization isn't exactly what it claims.
S&W Fan
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Can open….worms all over.
ManualF150
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I think an excellent "tough-on-crime" policy is to have more law-abiding citizens carry concealed. This way these lunatics will think twice before opening fire on a crowded subway. Or if they do, less victims of the tragedy.
No wait... that makes too much sense.
After all, "concealed, is concealed". No one knows who packing heat until that line is drawn.
No wait... that makes too much sense.
After all, "concealed, is concealed". No one knows who packing heat until that line is drawn.