No More Heating With Firewood In New York?

[96coal449]

No one is going to stop selling firewood above the 38th parallel of Rockland/Westchester. Ever.

Its a cheap and easy means of full-time, part-time, and fun money for anyone with a chainsaw and a splitter, and a crap ton of it is sold sans sales tax, insurance mandates, business licenses, or other crooked government arranged marketplace thefts.

The jackwagons down in Albany cannot comprehend the vast under the table economy that has been building the last 10-15 years with the onslaught of NY bullshit, including the off-books firewood trade. Under the table work has been big my entire lifetime, but it has skyrocketed the last couple of decades and I don't see that abating any time soon.

I know business owners who are lamenting the fact that they they ever went on the books given the number of people working under the table offering the same goods and services on the sly. Practically every industry is shadowed by an off-the-books underground economy that Albany has never been able to dent let alone stop.

Fuck NY.

Go ahead and ban firewood.

We'll be burning witches at the stake again, starting with that tramp calling herself a governor down there in Albany.

This is half the reason for this wanna be ban. They cannot control the revenue generated with firewood.
Global warming, climate change, whatever label they choose to use, is just a ploy in the great reset.
I hope gov donkey breath does get this banned. When push comes to shove, Americans generally come together to beat the odds.
Apparently, we have not been shoved enough yet.

Please, shove some more.

 

[Saltwater60]

No one is going to stop selling firewood above the 38th parallel of Rockland/Westchester. Ever.

Its a cheap and easy means of full-time, part-time, and fun money for anyone with a chainsaw and a splitter, and a crap ton of it is sold sans sales tax, insurance mandates, business licenses, or other crooked government arranged marketplace thefts.

The jackwagons down in Albany cannot comprehend the vast under the table economy that has been building the last 10-15 years with the onslaught of NY bullshit, including the off-books firewood trade. Under the table work has been big my entire lifetime, but it has skyrocketed the last couple of decades and I don't see that abating any time soon.

I know business owners who are lamenting the fact that they they ever went on the books given the number of people working under the table offering the same goods and services on the sly. Practically every industry is shadowed by an off-the-books underground economy that Albany has never been able to dent let alone stop.

Fuck NY.

Go ahead and ban firewood.

We'll be burning witches at the stake again, starting with that tramp calling herself a governor down there in Albany.

Maybe this is why they are banning it. Think of all the money they are losing across the state.

 

[livingston]

folks I am not against wood stoves ... I do not have one in my home . Not possible at this point in time. I do believe from a survival standpoint one of the best investments you can have. In the mountains of California people are in day 5 of down powerlines with 8-10 feet of snow...
As I said before .. Your homeowners insurance will be the strong arm in this law.. Wood stove or fireplace on the property is a no go... If this law is in place. Even if one does not use a wood stove just the fact it is on site .... No insurance for you ... What about fireplaces ? One removes them also...? .. a lot they can do to enforce a law like this,...

 

[96coal449]

folks I am not against wood stoves ... I do not have one in my home . Not possible at this point in time. I do believe from a survival standpoint one of the best investments you can have. In the mountains of California people are in day 5 of down powerlines with 8-10 feet of snow...
As I said before .. Your homeowners insurance will be the strong arm in this law.. Wood stove or fireplace on the property is a no go... If this law is in place. Even if one does not use a wood stove just the fact it is on site .... No insurance for you ... What about fireplaces ? One removes them also...? .. a lot they can do to enforce a law like this,...

Fuck em. Was there HO insurance when my house was built in the 1830s? I think not.
My house not theirs. They are not my daddy and I have no master.
on the plus side for me, I do not need HO insurance. One less money hungry scam, I do not have to deal with.

What other control do they think they can exert? They will never break me.

 

[livingston]

 

[Jmac00]

folks I am not against wood stoves ... I do not have one in my home . Not possible at this point in time. I do believe from a survival standpoint one of the best investments you can have. In the mountains of California people are in day 5 of down powerlines with 8-10 feet of snow...
As I said before .. Your homeowners insurance will be the strong arm in this law.. Wood stove or fireplace on the property is a no go... If this law is in place. Even if one does not use a wood stove just the fact it is on site .... No insurance for you ... What about fireplaces ? One removes them also...? .. a lot they can do to enforce a law like this,...

Moving into an rv is turning into a good move, don't need no fireplace. And sure as shit don't need no fucking cockholster Hochul dictating how I should live


2022 is right around the corner, any Republican running for Governor only need run on reversing everything Cumhole and cockholster has done to YOUR STATE, If my insurance company wants to drop my insurance, thats cool. I am 100% positive the cabin will not be burning to the ground anytime soon

 

[Madmallard]

Apparently these idiots don't understand how climate works. Plants need CO2 to make O2 for humans to live. No CO2 = no plants = no human life. Right now the Earth is the greenest it's ever been with plant life.

 

[Saltwater60]

Apparently these idiots don't understand how climate works. Plants need CO2 to make O2 for humans to live. No CO2 = no plants = no human life. Right now the Earth is the greenest it's ever been with plant life.

We would need someone to check this math, but I’m sure there are enough people and other things to produce enough co2 to support plant life. I understand where you’re coming from, but not sure it works out that way. Also we’re likely the greenest we’ve been because of warming and glacier melt. Bear with me here I was just watching a show and it said the glaciers in Finland started to melt 10,000 years ago, but it’s my cars fault now?? They make no sense.

 

[livingston]

Apparently these idiots don't understand how climate works. Plants need CO2 to make O2 for humans to live. No CO2 = no plants = no human life. Right now the Earth is the greenest it's ever been with plant life.

Understand this is not about CO2 ... It is about destroying the economic engine and making everyone dependent upon the government. They desire to take away every aspect of self sufficiency one has and replace it with the benevolent graces of your masters... . Kiss the Ring

 

[FRB]

We would need someone to check this math, but I’m sure there are enough people and other things to produce enough co2 to support plant life. I understand where you’re coming from, but not sure it works out that way. Also we’re likely the greenest we’ve been because of warming and glacier melt. Bear with me here I was just watching a show and it said the glaciers in Finland started to melt 10,000 years ago, but it’s my cars fault now?? They make no sense.

There goes that Public school ed'u'macation... hahaha

I seen a show that said you can time travel by spor injection....

 

[Celt]

so I wonder how they are going to handle all the wood burners in the north country?? My Off Grid cabin is heated ONLY by wood. I have no other option, many people up there have the same issue.

The only way to my cabin is by boat or snowmobile/ATV. so how they are going to come after me should interesting. In the spring and fall it can get down the the teens, and if they think Im hauling propane tanks across the lake the can kiss my ass

The big nanny state gov cant allow citizens to be self sufficient. They need everyone dependent on the grid, and them so they can control us. Its a real shame where people have allowed this state/country/world to get to.

 

[Steal2B]

Technically, my wood stove is solar powered.

 

[prambo]

Is it my imagination, or is there a DemonRat Bitch-Cunt Politician Wicked Witch of the West factory somewhere...these crack hoes all look alike...

 

[spat]

You're all going about this the wrong way.
If they want to outlaw burning wood, a cheap and easily acquired resource, then we just start burning politicians to keep warm. in New York, those also seem to be a cheap and easily acquired resource (there's so damned many of them!).

Much as I would enjoy a good bonfire, I think I wouldn't want it near my house. That stink can't be good for you long term.

 

[spat]

If one reads some of that bill they are looking for a carbon free world ... These people don't care. about us... Global warming is a religion to them ... 100 % carbon neutral world in 30 years ....One needs to keep an eye on Europe ... Wood stoves today are banned in many countries.
We have people with radical agenda's running the world and they want to transform our lives

The really stupid thing is that wood heating *is* carbon neutral on a reasonable time scale.

Every bit of carbon released by burning was captured when you grew the tree.

Far better than an electric furnace powered by a coal or natural gas plant.

 

[spat]

We would need someone to check this math, but I’m sure there are enough people and other things to produce enough co2 to support plant life. I understand where you’re coming from, but not sure it works out that way. Also we’re likely the greenest we’ve been because of warming and glacier melt. Bear with me here I was just watching a show and it said the glaciers in Finland started to melt 10,000 years ago, but it’s my cars fault now?? They make no sense.

Not the greenest it's ever been.

That would be the
Carboniferous - Wikipedia

So named because that was *before* all this carbon was sequestered.

Don't forget that every pound of coal or gallon of oil dug or pumped out of the ground was once just CO2 floating around the atmosphere before plants turned it into coal and oil. We know exactly what earth looked like when *all* of it was out there. It was a very lush rainforest.

 

[1075tech]

Electrify everything.. This article, based around New England, will have the same effects in NY

New England is an Energy Crisis Waiting to Happen

If New England's refusal to use natural gas from next door is ironic, how it sources LNG is downright perverse.

doomberg.substack.com

 

[Deplorable Me]

Funny, years ago woodburners were viewed as the green alternative renewable energy heat source vs oil or natural gas.

 

[livingston]

Electrify everything.. This article, based around New England, will have the same effects in NY

New England is an Energy Crisis Waiting to Happen

If New England's refusal to use natural gas from next door is ironic, how it sources LNG is downright perverse.

doomberg.substack.com

From the link posted'''above

“Around 5:00 P.M. on January 6, 2018, I snapped a light on as the sun went down. The temperature was around minus 8 degrees Fahrenheit. It had been zero at lunchtime and would be minus 15 the next morning. As usual, the light went on. As grid operator ISO New England had planned, oil had saved the grid. During that very cold week, about one-third of New England’s electricity came from burning oil. The people at ISO-NE might think it is unfair to say that they planned to save the grid with oil, but they did, because of the Winter Reliability Program.”

She goes on to describe that while burning oil had averted disaster, it had only barely done so. The grid was hours away from rolling blackouts before the weather thankfully turned warmer. The book then covers the broken interplay between policy, markets, and fuel security, how renewables impact the grid, and her thoughts on a more rational path forward. It is well worth a full read.

Now folks think about all the EV's that will be plugged in going forward with the great reset during an event like this.. And they want to ban wood burning stoves...

 

[Madmallard]

We would need someone to check this math, but I’m sure there are enough people and other things to produce enough co2 to support plant life. I understand where you’re coming from, but not sure it works out that way. Also we’re likely the greenest we’ve been because of warming and glacier melt. Bear with me here I was just watching a show and it said the glaciers in Finland started to melt 10,000 years ago, but it’s my cars fault now?? They make no sense.

Don't forget that the Globalists want to significantly reduce the worlds population and Scary Kerry stated that once we get to carbon zero that they will purge the atmosphere of CO2.

 

[livingston]

As one reads more into the article 1075 Tech posted I found this interesting
The great irony of the situation is New England sits only a few hundred miles from the most prolific natural gas producing region on Earth – the Appalachian Basin. According to the US EIA, if the region were a standalone country it would have been the third largest natural gas producer in the world in the first half of 2021, behind only Russia and the rest of the US. And yet, by refusing to build the necessary pipeline infrastructure, New England has opted out of sharing in this critical domestic bounty. If any thought leaders from the region are reading this piece, the Doomberg team put together this handy guide to solving your regional energy problems:

These people out there are nuts folks. I believe the only way to solve this situation is to have a big natural disaster like in Texas brought about by the green energy policy craziness of the liberals. Have a few thousand folks freeze to death and then they might wake up... The only problem with that is they want to take away all of our ability to combat this religion of climate change... by trying to enforce these regulations on the rest of us.

 

[byron]

 

[Acer-m14]

 

[Acer-m14]

i was in Navy Boot Camp in December 1983 .. Great Lakes Ill. .. .. what i remember it was -80F with the wind chill and we had to march to the Chow hall we put on about everything we had for clothing to get there ..

Christmas 1983 Blizzard and Record Cold

 

[livingston]

These folks are only in the high 20's .. Perhaps I am wrong... but it is not sub zero that is for sure. .. I guarantee every one of these folks that have the ability and place for one is planning on a wood stove for the next large household purchase ....Husband .....Honey... that dishwasher has been on the blink for a few months ... Lets head to town and buy one this weekend ... Wife...... Screw the dishwasher . we need an Ashley Heath stove like our neighbor has.....

 

[Jmac00]

when people begin to freeze, when the price on Natural gas/oil gets to high, when the power grid goes down, people WILL TURN TO WOOD to keep warm, there won't be enough police to run around a hand out tickets to every person trying to keep their kids warm. And if the police try to shut down some ones wood stove, when its 0° outside, thats when people will start shooting. Even the police will be trying to keep there families warm. Even if the insurance companies stop insuring people homes because of a wood stove, I think the blow back will be very strong.

This mandate is not only foolish, I think it will become dangerous

 

[MothMan]

Good morning New York!

 

[1075tech]

My brother just put this one in.

 

[DoOver]

This is half the reason for this wanna be ban. They cannot control the revenue generated with firewood.
Global warming, climate change, whatever label they choose to use, is just a ploy in the great reset.
I hope gov donkey breath does get this banned. When push comes to shove, Americans generally come together to beat the odds.
Apparently, we have not been shoved enough yet.

Please, shove some more.

...but the State and Federal Government do'es not collect any road use taxes behind electric, propane, alternate powered vehicles?

 

[96coal449]

I'll be right back.

I havt to go throw some more contra ban in my solar powered stove.