This is, IMHO, the only solution.
Articles: The United States Cannot Survive as Presently Constituted
Articles: The United States Cannot Survive as Presently Constituted
"The United States Cannot Survive As Presently Constituted"
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vanderblack
.357 mag
Unfortunately the second option will be the one that succeeds. The left is VERY loud right now and will unlikely settle down. The Right is a bit smug with a certain attitude of "our guy won, now go away." The Right is not shouting nearly as loud. As such, the Left will draw more from the right then the right draws from the left. Next election, the left will be out in force. I would expect one third the one half as many more on the left to show up at the poles. Unless Trump shows that the differences between the left and right are not as far apart as the media reports AND his plans are an overwhelming success for the country, economy grows, unemployment all but ends, he proves his immigration plan is open to all and truly keeps out terrorists, we don't end up at war, and on and on. It is a difficult road on which Trump only has 4 years to operate.
The country will never split like option 3 suggests without a civil war. Even then, unlikely. So many people cant afford to move a few miles let alone relocate to another part of the country. Will these people simply fall in line with the territory they live in?
The only real hope is with the Supreme Court and hoping that seats vacate in the next 3 years allowing Trump to appoint those who will work for the Right.
The country will never split like option 3 suggests without a civil war. Even then, unlikely. So many people cant afford to move a few miles let alone relocate to another part of the country. Will these people simply fall in line with the territory they live in?
The only real hope is with the Supreme Court and hoping that seats vacate in the next 3 years allowing Trump to appoint those who will work for the Right.
carpediem
.338 Win Mag
Unfortunately, I agree. The left will either steal or cheat their way back into power, and then the reckoning will begin. They will go after every conservative business, news agency and maybe even some outspoken citizens. Freedoms will be stripped. The 1st and 2nd amendments will be fair game, along with others. These "leftists" decry any opposing voice as a "Nazi" or fascist, when they themselves are the true fascists in the room. The quote about the next fascists being anti fascists may not have ever been said by Churchill, but it is certainly looking like it is true.
Only if we let happen. Everyone bleeds. Leftists bleed. Let's get it done people.
All I have is an acronym - COIN
Best not to assume anything lest ye be caught flatfooted.
The guys in black are the Nazis.
What you say is, indeed, logical. But the present situation, and its manifestations originating from the left, are completely illogical.
If one reads Chittum's "Civil War II: The Coming Breakup of America", and peruses the "milestones", as it were, he gives at the end of the book, the breakup via civil war is on a fast track. While at first reading I thought this was "racist shit" (before Y2K), I now see it as prescient. Add Strauss and Howe's "Fourth Turning" theory (substantially supported by history), and there is little doubt that the wheels are going to come off sooner, rather than later (could be a decade, but that's not really a long time).
Just my $0.02 - YMMV.
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
uuum I would just like to point out to those that lean to the left, it's the redneck, hillbilly conservatives on the right that control THE FOOD!!!!
you want to see the left go batshit crazy, cut off the food supply to the major cities
LET THE GAMES BEGIN. Im going to go live on a farm
you want to see the left go batshit crazy, cut off the food supply to the major cities
LET THE GAMES BEGIN. Im going to go live on a farm
BerettaGuy
.308 Win
Good Read. Thanks for posting.
I don't agree with his East Coast - West Coast option.
I do not identify with NY City or Buffalo NY for that matter. I am an American and am willing to fight the leftists for the survival of my country.
Their hysterical whining and crying is just that. I can't believe these media asshole's who everyday are bringing up the fact that Donald Trump has not built the wall yet. It is the east coast - west coast media/entertainment goonies of NY and Los Angeles that are the root instigators. Give them their own City States and leave the rest of us alone.
As in any coup you must capture and control the communication system first.
I don't agree with his East Coast - West Coast option.
I do not identify with NY City or Buffalo NY for that matter. I am an American and am willing to fight the leftists for the survival of my country.
Their hysterical whining and crying is just that. I can't believe these media asshole's who everyday are bringing up the fact that Donald Trump has not built the wall yet. It is the east coast - west coast media/entertainment goonies of NY and Los Angeles that are the root instigators. Give them their own City States and leave the rest of us alone.
As in any coup you must capture and control the communication system first.
BerettaGuy
.308 Win
Yeah like Dred Scott Case how did that work out. They are simply gonna chant Not my Supreme Court and I kind of agree with them. The SCOTUS should be ruling on the law not a split along political bent. As the author says What do Americans of the Left and the Right have in common? Nothing -- except hate for each other.
There are many parallels to what is happening today to the 1850's. Remember it was the Democrats back then that were the slave states. They then began the secessions in a panic after the election of Lincoln.
Today we have as the author says; While they were in power, The Left insisted on nationalizing as many policies as possible. It destroyed the government of limited and enumerated powers, and replaced it with a Leviathan, powerful enough to force its perceived moral superiority down the throats of its opponents. Now that Trump is in office and the Left no longer controls Leviathan, they are in a panic – and in the streets.
I think it is all gonna end just fine, in the end.
spat
.950 JDJ
And the water, and the power, and the fuel. Basically, what do the cities provide anymore ? Paperwork ? They stopped being manufacturing centers decades ago.
carpediem
.338 Win Mag
Within a week, maybe two they would be hell on earth in a SHTF situation.
Well depends on the city. Cities like NY and just about every major city in SoCal are net importers. Chicago still has a lot of stuff outgoing. In general though, yes, the flow of goods and materials seems to flow from red to blue. The Carolinas and Georgia seem to be economic powerhouses. Lot of materials going in and many goods coming out. I'm hauling raw magnesium to Georgia for instance. Wonder what it's for?
spat
.950 JDJ
Is Chicago actually making much of the stuff they ship out, or are they just a hub where goods are being exchanged from ship to truck, etc...
A quick look at wikipedia shows that the top 10 employers in Chicago produce nothing.
Raw materials go in, finished product or components comes out. Chicago is still pretty industrial.
I probably see the bulk of my runs into or out of PA, OH, IN, IL, KY, SC, and GA.
spat
.950 JDJ
Economy of Chicago - Wikipedia
So, sounds like they still make a little bit, but 90% of what they make is paperwork, And most of the goods they actually handle are just forwarding freight.
Chicago is one of the biggest commercial hubs of the country. It's the crossroads of the northern half of the country. I do a lot of pet food runs into and around there, lot of cereal and baking materials like flour and mix. I do a fair amount of raw material runs like pulp board and aluminum coils too. A lot of it is through the immediate surrounding areas. Which is good because Chicago is a real bitch to drive a truck around. Lot of low overhead clearances. For me, the runs I do, I'd say that on average I'm in and out of Georgia more than any other state. But then I'm based in PA so that has more to do with it.
Incidentally the fastest and most dramatic way to shut down the country is to halt the trucking. None of the stores you go to stock more than 1 day of goods. Look up just in time inventory management. If all the trucks in the country stopped for just on day every shelf would be bare by the following morning and would stay that way for weeks. For example:
I will take a load of grain mix for cereal from one city to a plant in another hundreds of miles away where the cereal product is then taken in great big totes to a packaging facility hundreds of miles elsewhere. The boxes also come to the packaging plant from hundreds of miles away. From there the filled boxes go to a distribution center also likely hundreds of miles away and so on. This whole country is criss crossed by a tenuous web of extremely decentralized system of production and distribution. It is an incredibly fragile system. It makes economic sense because freight is so cheap, ever since the transportation industry was deregulated sparking a race to the bottom of freight pricing. Think about that the next time you are stuck behind a truck huh?
I will take a load of grain mix for cereal from one city to a plant in another hundreds of miles away where the cereal product is then taken in great big totes to a packaging facility hundreds of miles elsewhere. The boxes also come to the packaging plant from hundreds of miles away. From there the filled boxes go to a distribution center also likely hundreds of miles away and so on. This whole country is criss crossed by a tenuous web of extremely decentralized system of production and distribution. It is an incredibly fragile system. It makes economic sense because freight is so cheap, ever since the transportation industry was deregulated sparking a race to the bottom of freight pricing. Think about that the next time you are stuck behind a truck huh?
spat
.950 JDJ
Shut down the fuel and you shut down the trucking. Shut down the power and you shut down the fuel. Not sure how long the power would stay on without the trucking, but I bet it's measured in days at best. Its scary how fragile the whole system is.
If something really did shut it all down for a couple weeks, even if all the damage was repaired, it would be a nightmare getting it all rebooted again.
Thank you for what you do, You would make a great resource if SHTF.
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
this is true to some extent. But places like UPS and FEDEx have main hubs, Wal-Mart has a couple main hubs. and Amazon has the most elaborate delivery system on the planet with 'hubs' all over the place for JITD (just in time delivery)
This JITD system was developed back in the 70's and 80's when states started to tax goods in warehouses. So if you are a manufacture and you stored 6 months worth of parts, the state taxed you on those parts. So manufactures went to JITD to avoid the tax. Now everyone is doing it, but mainly to save space'
Even I only keep a limited amount of spare parts. Because inventory, although convenient, is expensive to buy and just sit on a shelf for eventual use in the future
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
In great numbers, ignorant masses are a formidable power.
To use a colloquial analogy, most rank-and-file Leftist Progressive 20-somethings are zombies. They act on pure emotion. They are focused on destroying everything that does not fit within their world paradigm. They do not really think, they just act; and act ever more violently. Individually, they are an annoyance and present only a fleeting, limited, hazard. But in large groups, steered by a puppet master through the mainstream media, they are a real danger. They use social media for command and control. The real leaders are always hidden and are never accessible. So, we will be forced into a veritable war of attrition. The Left will sacrifice masses of their useless idiots. But, we value every life...especially those of law-abiding constitutionalists.
Will the Right have the intestinal fortitude for a prolonged low-intensity conflict during which many will eventually be harmed when the easier path will be to just go along "with the [self-professed] majority?"
I favor an amicable division of the heretofore United States.
BerettaGuy
.308 Win
I have been saying all along to stop being civil to the left. No matter what we do or how many more rights we give up they are never going to like us.
Here is another good read
Kurt Schlichter - The Left Hates You. Act Accordingly.
Their beef isn’t with Trump – it’s with us, the normal people who dared rise up and demand their right to participate in the rule of this country and its culture.
Here is another good read
Kurt Schlichter - The Left Hates You. Act Accordingly.
Their beef isn’t with Trump – it’s with us, the normal people who dared rise up and demand their right to participate in the rule of this country and its culture.
BerettaGuy
.308 Win
If you stop and look around you. Your coffee cup, ink pen, notepad, salt shaker, stapler Computer, that half eaten sandwich all at one time took a ride on a truck'. Do you know who else knew this? Bobby Kennedy, This is why he started investigating Organized Crime in the Teamsters Unions. Different times back then. Jimmy Hoffa anyone?
Spinner rims for the hood rat's Escalades.
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Great info.
The supply chain is always crucial. Logistics, boring but essential.
It was a major reason, in part, for the failure of the German forces in North Africa, the battle of them Bulge and Barbarossa.
@Podmonkey - as an aside, what is the prevailing attitude of your fellow OTR drivers on Trump, the leftist goons, and the present political climate in general?
Very well said.
I couldn't agree more with the highlighted text. The right (another leftist construct), let's use "patriots, conservatives, whatever, have to seriously think about, not only how far we would go to preserve this country, but how far we may be forced to go.
I don't see the leftist/globalist puppet masters calling off their zombie army, since to Soros et al, they are as expendable as "we" are.
IMHO, our times are indeed the crisis phase of a Fourth Turning, and history shows them to be far from pretty, and the actual spiritual humanity of everyone will be tested.