Ukraine - Russia Conflict (Original Title: Things are heating up in the Donbass)

[prambo]

This should be a good one...

Most def!!

 

[prambo]

Bucha, Budapest and the Multiplying Problems of Real War Criminals - Gold Goats 'n Guns

"Von der Leyen is a certifiable idiot for invoking the ‘rule of law’ weapon against Orban here using the alleged events at Bucha. She’s using it as an excuse to purposefully destroy the European economy per the directive of her Davos handlers. Their calculus is simple, burn the entire global economy down to punish Putin, Xi and everyone else not down with the Comintern."

 

[livingston]

Glowing Reviews, Sean Penn and Sean Hannity Team Up to Support U.S. War Against Russia​

Sean Penn appears on Fox News with Sean Hannity to discuss their unity message that U.S. military forces should begin combat operations against Russia in Ukraine. The Hollywood actor follows a familiar intelligence community script complete with wardrobe to match the theme.

Sean Penn joins Sean Hannity to discuss Russian invasion of Ukraine​

Folks are pushing ... Demanding we get into another war. What qualifications does Sean bring to the table. I sit here wondering why he left his Che shirt home. Seems like we just got out of a war 6 months ago. I am not pro Putin ... I do recognize that Ukraine has been set up as a vassal state to our politicians to use as they seem fit. ... If a war breaks out I fear we will see a vastly different world than we do today.

 

[BerettaGuy]

I dont know if the videos and pics are as stated. they could be. they could also be misleading. Since this is a war crime, We should look at it through the eyes of our own justice system , Is there any reasonable doubt?

The video of the man on bike for instance. Can you identify the vehicles? Both Russians and Ukrainians use the same ones? Can anyone positively ID them ? Can We tell the date place and time of video? Was the man armed? Did he fire ? Did you see anyone killed? Do you see a body? Why was a drone watching him? In the burned bodies videos , Were the bodies Russian or Ukrainian? Were thier women or children in the piles? Did the locals decide to burn the dead because they had no means of burying them? Could the Ukrainian army have arrested Russian collaborators and executed them for helping the Russians?

I can go on and on, but the point is We dont have the information to determine what happened. Maybe your right, But because of the nature of the information war , I have to hold my answer in reserve. I honestly dont know. Then there is the source itself, Ukraine, and the media has been caught lying multiple times, The US media lies about every war we were ever in , and the Ukraine, NATO and Russia all have motive to lie and have all lied in the past.

What I do know is that the media is full of misrepresentation and lies , pictures showing the same tanks destroyed last week , recently destroyed tanks, trucks covered in rust .

War crimes happen, So its entirely possible they are what they claim to be. Whats not possible from the pics is who did what when.

Im not convinced.

We have several generations that have been warned before the start of an old Black and White documentary that the following presentation contains images that may offend sensitive viewers and worst of all, smoking. These same children may be in their 30s by now will see images of the dead lying on the streets and say, when are they going to re-spawn. They have no clue that Russians have a different attitude about killing and death than we do in the West. We bury our war dead in graves with honors. Russians don't and they never have. They dump their war dead in mass graves and put up a single monument. Always have and always will. Even though there is no real proof Stalin ever said this it explains Russian sentiment toward war dead, either by bullets or famine. The death of one man is a tragedy. The death of millions is a statistic."

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[BerettaGuy]

Glowing Reviews, Sean Penn and Sean Hannity Team Up to Support U.S. War Against Russia​

Sean Penn appears on Fox News with Sean Hannity to discuss their unity message that U.S. military forces should begin combat operations against Russia in Ukraine. The Hollywood actor follows a familiar intelligence community script complete with wardrobe to match the theme.

Sean Penn joins Sean Hannity to discuss Russian invasion of Ukraine​

Folks are pushing ... Demanding we get into another war. What qualifications does Sean bring to the table. I sit here wondering why he left his Che shirt home. Seems like we just got out of a war 6 months ago. I am not pro Putin ... I do recognize that Ukraine has been set up as a vassal state to our politicians to use as they seem fit. ... If a war breaks out I fear we will see a vastly different world than we do today.

Oh, I dunno. It's Sean Penn!
He is a Hollywood personality.
If he says we should go to war with Russia then by God we should follow his advice. I mean, after all, he is an actor, he acts for a living. AND! He was on TV! I mean come on! Wasn't he Daniel Ortega's butt buddy too?

 

[BerettaGuy]

Has Putin already won?

Russia is a top exporter of:

• Oil
• Steel
• Cereals
• Grains
• Wood
• Fertilizer
• Aluminum

And now is the top exporter of “I will nuke you”.

NATO and indeed the world cannot and will not interfere in any manner that disrupts the delusional security of mutually assured destruction therefore just the threat of using “smaller, kinder and gentler nukes” wins. Reminds me of the scene in Blazing Saddles.

 

[GOPerfect]

Ok, I will bite. What is your definition of BEEN to war and NOT been to war?

Nothing to bite on.

Some have been to a war zone, and some have not.

Some have experienced the horrible in and of war, and some have not.

Not sure if you thought this was going to be something weird.

 

[1341]

Nothing to bite on.

Some have been to a war zone, and some have not.

Some have experienced the horrible in and of war, and some have not.

Not sure if you thought this was going to be something weird.

Nope, nothing weird here, just asking a question and got the plain old vanilla ice cream answer

 

[GOPerfect]

Nope, nothing weird here, just asking a question and got the plain old vanilla ice cream answer

What were you looking for?

The statement was clear, some have been and some have not been to a zone of war. Some can see deeper into the reasons of the actions of soldiers on a battle field.

Not sure how deep you need this answer to go

 

[tirwin1]

Glowing Reviews, Sean Penn and Sean Hannity Team Up to Support U.S. War Against Russia​

Sean Penn appears on Fox News with Sean Hannity to discuss their unity message that U.S. military forces should begin combat operations against Russia in Ukraine. The Hollywood actor follows a familiar intelligence community script complete with wardrobe to match the theme.

Sean Penn joins Sean Hannity to discuss Russian invasion of Ukraine​

Folks are pushing ... Demanding we get into another war. What qualifications does Sean bring to the table. I sit here wondering why he left his Che shirt home. Seems like we just got out of a war 6 months ago. I am not pro Putin ... I do recognize that Ukraine has been set up as a vassal state to our politicians to use as they seem fit. ... If a war breaks out I fear we will see a vastly different world than we do today.

War makes strange bedfellows. If hannity and penn are on the same side of an issue, I can safely assume I want to be on the other side.

 

[Cavalry]

Oh, I dunno. It's Sean Penn!
He is a Hollywood personality.
If he says we should go to war with Russia then by God we should follow his advice. I mean, after all, he is an actor, he acts for a living. AND! He was on TV! I mean come on! Wasn't he Daniel Ortega's butt buddy too?

You forgot about 'Thin Red Line', That completely qualifies him for any sort of valid war opinion.

 

[1341]

You forgot about 'Thin Red Line', That completely qualifies him for any sort of valid war opinion.

Yep, he's been in a war zone

 

[FRANKIE]

Seen here soldier receiving medal wearing the Totenkopf;

MSN

 

[FRANKIE]

graphic NSF

Ukrainian? soldiers executing Russian? soldiers? I cant fucking tell.

Shit I guess bestgore is back

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Seen here soldier receiving medal wearing the Totenkopf;

MSN

This whole thing is maddening and bizarroworld

The flag patch looks like he's from the Donbass area in service to Russia. That whole Azov sea/Donbass area seems to be a hotbed of Nazism and they are on both sides of Ukraine (Azov battalion) and the DPR forces as well.

 

[Blimey]

“It’s stunning,” said military historian Frederick Kagan of the Institute for the Study of War, who says he knows of no parallel to a major military power like Russia invading a country at the time of its choosing and failing so utterly.

Stupid russians lol. They just straight up retreated from the north. This is why Finland is just laughing when russia is threatening it if it joins nato. Russia can't even conquer ukraine. It never will. Even if it holds the south and bits of the east it will never, ever conquer ukraine.

Russia's failure to take down Kyiv was a defeat for the ages

Kyiv was a Russian defeat for the ages. It started poorly for the invaders and went downhill from there.

apnews.com

 

[Blimey]

I do not doubt for a moment that what you have posted is true.

But, I have questions. In the Drone video, what was they guy on the bike doing? Was he preparing to attack the Soldiers?

The second video of the burnt peoples, who did the burning and why? How do we know it was the Russians? Maybe it was the Ukrainians.

Who killed the boys mother? Pictures are awesome, but without facts and data, real data, they are nothing.

There are many questions to be answered. It will be mightily difficult for russia to legitimately explain away the many killed civilians. Those with hands tied up, those buried in mass graves, murdered children thrown in piles.

 

[Uninformed and Compliant]

Stupid russians lol. They just straight up retreated from the north. This is why Finland is just laughing when russia is threatening it if it joins nato.

"We've had hundreds of thousands of Russian troops on or border, for many years now. Just, they're all six feet deep."

 

[holdover]

Heres another idiot posting bullshit. by a Ukrainian tweeter. Problem is 1934 is in water marks on the video .

 

[holdover]

Oh, I dunno. It's Sean Penn!
He is a Hollywood personality.
If he says we should go to war with Russia then by God we should follow his advice. I mean, after all, he is an actor, he acts for a living. AND! He was on TV! I mean come on! Wasn't he Daniel Ortega's butt buddy too?

Spicoli always sounds like he's about to cry. And for all the money the man has, when will he by a hairbrush or comb? Always looks like he just rolled out of bed.

 

[holdover]

I dont know why the Ukrainian army would drag bodies into the street, but here it is. Lucy you have some splaining to do to.

 

[BerettaGuy]

I dont know why the Ukrainian army would drag bodies into the street, but here it is. Lucy you have some splaining to do to.

I saw the same video but they were checking for booby-trapped bodies.
PLUS the one thing I really hated during my cop days was a "floater" call. What's worse if you pop one open or they start leaking.
Looking for volunteers to pick up the dead and put them in body bags.

 

[BerettaGuy]

Stupid russians lol. They just straight up retreated from the north. This is why Finland is just laughing when russia is threatening it if it joins nato. Russia can't even conquer ukraine. It never will. Even if it holds the south and bits of the east it will never, ever conquer ukraine.

Russia's failure to take down Kyiv was a defeat for the ages

Kyiv was a Russian defeat for the ages. It started poorly for the invaders and went downhill from there.

apnews.com

Russia had the same results in Finland in 1939.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Russia had the same results in Finland in 1939.

Ironically I think Russias poor performance in the winter war convinced Hitler he could roll Russia and it solidified his resolve to launch operation Barbarossa.

Russian perceived ineptitude there turned into a massive misjudgement of epic scale 20 million people later.

 

[tirwin1]

Russia had the same results in Finland in 1939.

Until they defeated them through sheer brute force and a complete mismatch in terms of men. The russians don't have the manpower to overwhelm the ukrainians but they have the brute force in terms of artillery. They can still win this war. It will take much longer and require them to essentially destroy the country and kill tens of thousands (hundreds of thousands?) of people. But they can still do it.

 

[Defilade]

I dont know why the Ukrainian army would drag bodies into the street, but here it is. Lucy you have some splaining to do to.

Lol..Next it will be refrigerated trucks filled with bodies on ABC.....oh wait! That was Covid.

 

[prambo]

Glowing Reviews, Sean Penn and Sean Hannity Team Up to Support U.S. War Against Russia​

Sean Penn appears on Fox News with Sean Hannity to discuss their unity message that U.S. military forces should begin combat operations against Russia in Ukraine. The Hollywood actor follows a familiar intelligence community script complete with wardrobe to match the theme.

Sean Penn joins Sean Hannity to discuss Russian invasion of Ukraine​

Folks are pushing ... Demanding we get into another war. What qualifications does Sean bring to the table. I sit here wondering why he left his Che shirt home. Seems like we just got out of a war 6 months ago. I am not pro Putin ... I do recognize that Ukraine has been set up as a vassal state to our politicians to use as they seem fit. ... If a war breaks out I fear we will see a vastly different world than we do today.

Well, there's no doubt now whatsoever, Hannity is a major douchebag and shitweasel.

Seriously??!!

Fucking Sean Penn??

 

[livingston]

Well, there's no doubt now whatsoever, Hannity is a major douchebag and shitweasel.

Seriously??!!

Fucking Sean Penn??

Is Sean an expert at anything.. ?

 

[prambo]

Has Putin already won?

Russia is a top exporter of:

• Oil
• Steel
• Cereals
• Grains
• Wood
• Fertilizer
• Aluminum

And now is the top exporter of “I will nuke you”.

NATO and indeed the world cannot and will not interfere in any manner that disrupts the delusional security of mutually assured destruction therefore just the threat of using “smaller, kinder and gentler nukes” wins. Reminds me of the scene in Blazing Saddles.

You used a Blazing Saddles clip - you win the internet for today. (funniest movie ever made)

Tomorrow, they'll try and cancel your ass.

 

[prambo]

Is Sean an expert at anything.. ?

Advanced douchebaggery?

1-Man circle jerks without a pivot man?

Being a total phony and narcissistic asshole?