Thought this thread was about the State Fair? So yeah, now, this year, we serfs would be arrested and permits pulled. September and after its a felony for us serfs. Won't even be able to take my new lady to dinner without that threat.
If it’s like the one they use at Disneyworld, it detects something other than just metal but it’s shape and crowds can walk thru quickly. They use it for Broadway shows too.
@Nighttrain looks like don't ask don't tell isn't going to fly.
It’s ok, man. There’s no threat unless you’re a retired cop. Or author. Or just somebody, anybody or even nobody special. But there’s laws now to protect us. It’s all we need. And muskets. Don’t forget your muskets!
There's a huge difference between "controlling the situation" and being an authoritarian drunk on his own power, with an ego to match.
So what about people who move to NY from free states ?
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That’s not the point. Some of you don’t recognize that there is a substantially higher threat for LEOs and former LEOs. And that’s why the lawmakers made the exception.
yep. Absolutely. I’m not against standard magazines. The difference is the guilt trip. The NYS state government via proxy trained NYS police to use those magazines so they have some responsibility to that muscle memory. The unions used that to guilt them into it. If it makes you feel better Out of state retired cops don’t get that exception either.
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Following confusion, off-duty police will be allowed to carry at State Fair
Fair officials say the policy has not changed.
Yes, we don’t recognize that LEOs and retired LEOs face a substantially higher threat than, say, pizza delivery boys.
If the pizza delivery person is also off duty, how often are they attacked for being a pizza boy?
Depending on what neighborhood the pizza guy lives in, he's probably in more danger sitting at home than most cops are when on duty.
Again, a lot of rookie cops are pizza delivery people, come from dangerous neighborhoods etc etc.
Again, a lot of rookie cops are pizza delivery people, come from dangerous neighborhoods etc etc.
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You are not special.Again, a lot of rookie cops are pizza delivery people, come from dangerous neighborhoods etc etc.
Pizza delivery cars rarely are damaged for just being pizza delivery vehicles . Cops personal vehicles ( off duty/retired /active) are often vandalized if the car can be identified as a cop’s car including removal lug nuts, flatting of tires, breaking of windows, and other damages.
Pizza delivery people rarely have their children threatened.
Again, a lot of rookie cops are pizza delivery people, come from dangerous neighborhoods etc etc.
Pizza delivery cars rarely are damaged for just being pizza delivery vehicles ?. Cops personal vehicles ( off duty/retired /active) are often vandalized if the car can be identified as a cop’s car including removal lug nuts, flatting of tires, breaking of windows, and other damages.
Pizza delivery people rarely have their children threatened.
How often are pizza delivery people doxxed like police officers are? For example:
38 Police Officers Have Been Doxxed During Protests in Po...
The doxxing of local police follows nearly 55 solid days and nights of racial justice protests around the city.
Do you remember the outrage when NYS released the addresses of gun permit holders?
But you don’t have groups like this saying , let’s kill pizza boys
“Let’s Kill Some Cops”: Antifa Infiltrated By Undercover Trump Supporter, Recorded Plotting Attacks
"I could tell that they were a threat to the community"www.newswars.com
Officers and police supporters across the country are being targeted - here's how to protect your personal info
In the age of technology, a huge risk officers are currently facing is getting doxxed, or having their personal information exposed online.www.lawenforcementtoday.com
You don’t have incidents like this with pizza delivery boys at their homes often. Just a quick internet search search of officers attacked at hime
Arkansas man says he planned attack on cop who was accompanied by family
An Arkansas man was arrested in July after he attacked a police officer and admitted to planning the assault, officials said.SC Officer's Home Targeted by Drive-By Shooting
The off-duty officer and three acquaintances were reportedly standing outside the home when the driver of a passing car fired toward the home. Police say no one was injured in the shooting.Iowa Officer's Home and Take-Home Car "Targeted" by Shooter
The attack "was deliberate. It was an act of intimidation and we will not tolerate it,” Cedar Rapids Police Chief Wayne Jerman said, in a statement.Memphis Officer Ambushed Outside of His MS Home
According to Tish Clark, a spokesperson for the DeSoto County Sheriff's Department, the officer was hit in the shoulder and is expected to recover. She described the shooting as an "ambush" and said it occurred around 6 a.m. Monday morning as the lieutenant was heading to work.Kansas Officer's Puppy Decapitated in Apparent Targeted Attack
"Officers determined that the puppy had its head sliced off with a sharpened blade at another location and then the suspects returned the body to the backyard."Alabama Officer Ambushed and Killed at Home
A suspect approached Moorer and opened fire, also wounding a woman who was Moore’s “significant other,” Dallas County District Attorney Michael Jackson said.NC Man Charged with Attempted Murder Over Arson of Deputy's Home
Authorities said firefighters responded within minutes of the call and were able to prevent severe fire damage to the home. No one was injured.7 Shots Hit Home of Married NJ Officers While They and Baby Were Inside
The officers and their 10-day-old baby were not injured. They were on the second floor at the time.2 Men Found with Gasoline Can Outside Chicago Captain's Home
It was not clear if the men followed the captain home. But the neighborhood is known to be home to many CPD officers. The captain’s squad vehicle was parked outside the house.Texas Deputy's Home and Car in Driveway Firebombed
On Monday night (Dec. 23), the sergeant, who has not been publicly identified, awoke to part of his house on fire. An investigation determined a Molotov cocktail was thrown at the front window of the home. No one was injured.
Off-Duty Idaho Tribal Officer Ambushed, Shot at Home
According to authorities, Officer Josh Rigney is doing well and remains stable in a local hospital. He was shot twice in the attack.Shots Fired into TX Deputy's Home
Shots were fired into the Diana, TX, home of an Upshur County Sheriff's deputy and into her take-home patrol vehicle Saturday night. Some of the rounds fired into the home impacted near the deputy's child.
Most attacks aren’t in the news. Most car vandalism isn’t in the news. I advised rookies not to buy new cars in part for that reason . But here are a few:
Vandals are tampering with NYPD car tires, warns police union boss
In a chilling stay-safe missive Wednesday to 24,000 Police Benevolent Association members, Lynch said a Brooklyn South cop returned to his car at the end of his shift to find his tires tampered wit…After Shootings, Top NYPD Cop Warns Officers: Don’t Wear Your Uniforms On Public Transit, Family Shouldn’t Wear NYPD Logo
In the wake of two officers of the NYPD being targeted by a gun-wielding assailant on Saturday night and Sunday morning, on Sunday night a top cop for the NYPD issued a memo encouraging officers not to wear their uniforms on public transit and warning their families not to wear department logos...www.dailywire.com
this is a common attack. I’m surprised it’s in the publication.
Manhunt underway after NYPD officer attacked by group in suspected targeted incident
An attack launched against an off-duty NYPD officer by a group of men is now thought to be targeted, as the officer knew at least one attacker.www.lawenforcementtoday.com
Attacks on off duty/retired officers is much more common than you realize. And I did not list or search for any “ random “ attacks on off duty / retired officers that may or may not have been targeted attacks, Off duty and retired can be victims of crime like the general public too.
There are plenty of videos of police being ambushed too.
I personally know cops who had been followed home and told “ we know where you live”, approach them officer’s kid at school. Retired cops attacked out of the blue from someone they arrested years earlier and the retiree didn’t even remember that arrest from years ago. I have run into people I have arrested while on vacation in another state.
I have people I arrested in the beginning of my career just getting out now-just to give you an idea of how dangerous some of them are.
And some “ civilians “ have a credible and specific threat over their heads too but they are rare . And I agree with the SCOTUS decision about permits . But not to recognize that threat over LEOs is disingenuous.
I gotta say, did you recently retire? Ive never seen you so engaged in any thread.Again, a lot of rookie cops are pizza delivery people, come from dangerous neighborhoods etc etc.
Pizza delivery cars rarely are damaged for just being pizza delivery vehicles . Cops personal vehicles ( off duty/retired /active) are often vandalized if the car can be identified as a cop’s car including removal lug nuts, flatting of tires, breaking of windows, and other damages.
Pizza delivery people rarely have their children threatened.
Again, a lot of rookie cops are pizza delivery people, come from dangerous neighborhoods etc etc.
Pizza delivery cars rarely are damaged for just being pizza delivery vehicles ?. Cops personal vehicles ( off duty/retired /active) are often vandalized if the car can be identified as a cop’s car including removal lug nuts, flatting of tires, breaking of windows, and other damages.
Pizza delivery people rarely have their children threatened.
How often are pizza delivery people doxxed like police officers are? For example:
38 Police Officers Have Been Doxxed During Protests in Po...
The doxxing of local police follows nearly 55 solid days and nights of racial justice protests around the city.
Do you remember the outrage when NYS released the addresses of gun permit holders?
But you don’t have groups like this saying , let’s kill pizza boys
“Let’s Kill Some Cops”: Antifa Infiltrated By Undercover Trump Supporter, Recorded Plotting Attacks
"I could tell that they were a threat to the community"www.newswars.com
Officers and police supporters across the country are being targeted - here's how to protect your personal info
In the age of technology, a huge risk officers are currently facing is getting doxxed, or having their personal information exposed online.www.lawenforcementtoday.com
You don’t have incidents like this with pizza delivery boys at their homes often. Just a quick internet search search of officers attacked at hime
Arkansas man says he planned attack on cop who was accompanied by family
An Arkansas man was arrested in July after he attacked a police officer and admitted to planning the assault, officials said.SC Officer's Home Targeted by Drive-By Shooting
The off-duty officer and three acquaintances were reportedly standing outside the home when the driver of a passing car fired toward the home. Police say no one was injured in the shooting.Iowa Officer's Home and Take-Home Car "Targeted" by Shooter
The attack "was deliberate. It was an act of intimidation and we will not tolerate it,” Cedar Rapids Police Chief Wayne Jerman said, in a statement.Memphis Officer Ambushed Outside of His MS Home
According to Tish Clark, a spokesperson for the DeSoto County Sheriff's Department, the officer was hit in the shoulder and is expected to recover. She described the shooting as an "ambush" and said it occurred around 6 a.m. Monday morning as the lieutenant was heading to work.Kansas Officer's Puppy Decapitated in Apparent Targeted Attack
"Officers determined that the puppy had its head sliced off with a sharpened blade at another location and then the suspects returned the body to the backyard."Alabama Officer Ambushed and Killed at Home
A suspect approached Moorer and opened fire, also wounding a woman who was Moore’s “significant other,” Dallas County District Attorney Michael Jackson said.NC Man Charged with Attempted Murder Over Arson of Deputy's Home
Authorities said firefighters responded within minutes of the call and were able to prevent severe fire damage to the home. No one was injured.7 Shots Hit Home of Married NJ Officers While They and Baby Were Inside
The officers and their 10-day-old baby were not injured. They were on the second floor at the time.2 Men Found with Gasoline Can Outside Chicago Captain's Home
It was not clear if the men followed the captain home. But the neighborhood is known to be home to many CPD officers. The captain’s squad vehicle was parked outside the house.Texas Deputy's Home and Car in Driveway Firebombed
On Monday night (Dec. 23), the sergeant, who has not been publicly identified, awoke to part of his house on fire. An investigation determined a Molotov cocktail was thrown at the front window of the home. No one was injured.
Off-Duty Idaho Tribal Officer Ambushed, Shot at Home
According to authorities, Officer Josh Rigney is doing well and remains stable in a local hospital. He was shot twice in the attack.Shots Fired into TX Deputy's Home
Shots were fired into the Diana, TX, home of an Upshur County Sheriff's deputy and into her take-home patrol vehicle Saturday night. Some of the rounds fired into the home impacted near the deputy's child.
Most attacks aren’t in the news. Most car vandalism isn’t in the news. I advised rookies not to buy new cars in part for that reason . But here are a few:
Vandals are tampering with NYPD car tires, warns police union boss
In a chilling stay-safe missive Wednesday to 24,000 Police Benevolent Association members, Lynch said a Brooklyn South cop returned to his car at the end of his shift to find his tires tampered wit…After Shootings, Top NYPD Cop Warns Officers: Don’t Wear Your Uniforms On Public Transit, Family Shouldn’t Wear NYPD Logo
In the wake of two officers of the NYPD being targeted by a gun-wielding assailant on Saturday night and Sunday morning, on Sunday night a top cop for the NYPD issued a memo encouraging officers not to wear their uniforms on public transit and warning their families not to wear department logos...
this is a common attack. I’m surprised it’s in the publication.
Manhunt underway after NYPD officer attacked by group in suspected targeted incident
An attack launched against an off-duty NYPD officer by a group of men is now thought to be targeted, as the officer knew at least one attacker.www.lawenforcementtoday.com
Attacks on off duty/retired officers is much more common than you realize. And I did not list or search for any “ random “ attacks on off duty / retired officers that may or may not have been targeted attacks, Off duty and retired can be victims of crime like the general public too.
There are plenty of videos of police being ambushed too.
I personally know cops who had been followed home and told “ we know where you live”, approach them officer’s kid at school. Retired cops attacked out of the blue from someone they arrested years earlier and the retiree didn’t even remember that arrest from years ago. I have run into people I have arrested while on vacation in another state.
I have people I arrested in the beginning of my career just getting out now-just to give you an idea of how dangerous some of them are.
And some “ civilians “ have a credible and specific threat over their heads too but they are rare . And I agree with the SCOTUS decision about permits . But not to recognize that threat over LEOs is disingenuous.
Criminals avoid us like the plague? And they attack us too just because of what we do or did . That antidotal search was limited to attacks off duty at at the officer’s home. There are thousands more where it was just the officer’s car vandalized, property damaged etc. Why do I know this? I know hundreds of incidents. It’s that common.
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That’s not true. I have no issues when I’m in free states with open carry or concealed.
Criminals avoid us like the plague? And they attack us too just because of what we do or did . That antidotal search was limited to attacks off duty at at the officer’s home. There are thousands more where it was just the officer’s car vandalized, property damaged etc. Why do I know this? I know hundreds of incidents. It’s that common.
If you want me to compare on duty attacks on police officers , there are over 60,000 in documented assaults on officers acting in their official capacity in just 2020. ( FBI stats)That doesn’t include attacks on off duty officers if they weren’t already taking some police action already . Yes, a lot are by criminals trying to get away, like this:
But attempted murder of a police officer is listed as an assault as well like this:
but a lot are unwarranted attacks.
Look at this one. The criminals seem really afraid-lol
A lot of ambush attacks
Suspect in custody after Rochester officer killed, partner shot in 'cowardly ambush': Officials
A police officer was shot and killed in the line of duty on Thursday night in Rochester, New York. A second officer was also shot but is expected to survive.
Gunman who ambushed 3 Texas deputies, killing 1, remains on the run: Police
A Texas constable deputy was fatally shot and two other deputies were wounded in what police are calling an "ambush" early Saturday morning outside a Houston nightclub.
Police discuss deadly violence after ambush leaves 3 officers dead
In a world where violence seems to never let up, one of the few tools we can use to try and cope are conversations.
These are just ambushes where they shot or shot at the officers. It doesn’t include just being punched out of nowhere— quite common.More officers are being killed by ambush than previous years, research shows
Last year, firearms-related fatalities claimed the lives of 62 officers nationwide — a 38% increase from the previous year, according to National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund.www.newsnationnow.com
