Saltwater60
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Tick tock, tick tock. Not much left since he doesn’t work weekends. Three days, but that should be plenty of time.
Updates on Antonyuk v. Bruen
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I would like to know what areas will be affected by his decision. Would it apply to western NY (Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse and close by areas)?
IF, he grants an injunction, I wonder if it would change things like stadiums for example. It would be nice to be able to carry at Highmark Stadium during the Buffalo Wingfest on Labor Day weekend since I will be in Buffalo attending that!
IF, he grants an injunction, I wonder if it would change things like stadiums for example. It would be nice to be able to carry at Highmark Stadium during the Buffalo Wingfest on Labor Day weekend since I will be in Buffalo attending that!
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
Yup Cali passed that law a few months ago
nortatoga
.338 Win Mag
Looks like you're out of luck..
GATE ENTRY
Walk-through metal detection screening process is now in place at the stadium.PROHIBITED ITEMS
- Battery operated clothing (socks, jackets, etc.)
- Tobacco products - including cigarettes/electronic cigarettes, chewing tobacco, lighters/matches
- Drones, Unmanned Aircraft Devices
- Alcoholic beverages, illegal substances
- Animals (with the exception of service animals for guests with disabilities)
- Clutch bags not to exceed 4.5" x 6.5"
- Beach balls, footballs, balls, inflatable devices (balloons)
- Bottles, cans, thermoses, and other beverage containers
- Cameras with lenses longer than six (6) inches
- Clothing or material with profane language or obscene graphics
- Fireworks
- Headwear or clothing that may impede the view of guests
- Laptop computers, radios
- Laser pointer devices, noisemakers
- Promotional materials not approved by the Bills
- Seat cushions larger than 15" x 15" or that contain armrests, zippers, pockets, flaps or metal backs
- Selfie sticks, sticks or poles
- Strollers
- Umbrellas
- Video cameras, monopods and tripods
- Weapons (knives, box-cutters, firearms, etc.)
- Any other item deemed dangerous or inappropriate
Dr. Evil
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I hope and pray that the bastards get theirs.
ManualF150
.308 Win
I'm a HAM radio operator. I generally carry my small quad bander with me. I guess between the knives, the firearms, and now radios, I won't be going there. Too risky.
I find it funny the put out cameras with lenses longer than 6 inches... my Nikon D500 has a 600mm that is meant for sports photography, guess I can't use that either because it would make my camera's glass way longer than 6 inches...
What a shame.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
I know that. However, the stadium is a public facility owned by the taxpayers. It is not privately owned. Hochul’s bullshit CCIA makes it illegal to carry in stadiums. And yet BRUEN says you cannot make stadiums off limits to carrying.
I’m pretty sure I am out of luck as the anti gun assholes will fight tooth and nail to prevent it. But IF Judge Suddaby issues an injunction and overturns it, seems like it would be legal for me to carry there… That, and I suppose that if I went there and they turned me away at the gates, (with an injunction in place), would turning me away give me a case to sue their asses over? Or, would they arrest me for just carrying in the parking lots outside the stadium?
That’s a pretty fucked up list. Why in the hell would anyone pay to go to an event there with all of that shit restricted?
My opinion? Because many are ignorant or just don't care about thier rights.
Saltwater60
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You still won’t be able to enter with a firearm. Even though it’s a publicly owned place I’m sure the property is rented to whoever and therefore becomes a private event. They can reject your entry for anything. That’s just a guess since I’m not sure it’s a private event or not.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
They don’t want you having good pictures. They want you paying for them. Ridiculous yes.
minderasr
6.5 Creedmoor
I stopped giving a single fuck about football the minute the NFL allowed the players to take a knee during the national anthem.
I believe your stance on it being a private event is correct.
That begs me to ask this question. Is an event held by a private organization (Wingfest?) at a publicly owned facility a “private event” if it open to the public?
Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
For the cost of an event ticket you can buy a shitload of ammo and watch the highlights at 2300.
That_FNG
.308 Win
I am convinced that a vast majority of so called bills fans are not really fans. They just pretend to be fans as an excuse so they have a socially acceptable reason to be drunk at 11am in the morning.
spat
.950 JDJ
Does no radios mean no cell phones?
Somehow I doubt it. Not sure how a cell phone isn't a radio though.
I suspect they really mean no loud audio devices, but that's not what they said.
Based on what they said you can bring in a 1980's boom box if it's CD and cassette only, but not a cell phone.
Based on what they want I suspect any small headset only radio would be fine, but the boom box would not be.
Saltwater60
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That’s a good legal question and I don’t think it’s ever been answered or challenged that I know of. Of course, I’m not constitutional scholar.
however I would say yes because you need a ticket and to pay to get in. A public event you would just be able to walk into. Again this is all speculation.
While I'm not a sports fan- my reasons for being drunk at 11am are my own, I don't need them to be socially acceptable.
That being said, the Bruen decision stated that if there was searches or metal detectors and a police presence, then it could be considered a special area? Is that the case here? I've never been there and have no intention of going so I don't know the dynamics of it.
So…, 70,000+ Bills fans is a “private event”? Events that are advertised as being open to the public? I vote that they are public events held at a facility owned by the public.
spat
.950 JDJ
I think requiring tickets does not make it a private event if the ticket purchase is open to the public.
Now, something like a "members only" event is surely private.
How liberal can the membership process be before it becomes public, I can't say.
Is something like Sam's club "private" or "public" ?
I would say private, because it's members only.
So, sell tickets and it's public. Sell memberships and it's private. It's a pretty thin line, but it has to be drawn somewhere.
And yet they don't ban tables on the property..
That should honestly be the first thing they ban
That should honestly be the first thing they ban
Beerman
6.5 Creedmoor
Is a private business that is open to the public still a private business? ;j
Beerman
6.5 Creedmoor
ManualF150
.308 Win
This has been my whole point about the whole "Lawful gun signs" on establishments.
Where are the lines drawn?
I've concluded - There are no lines, just whatever idiots like Heil Hochul want to make up.
I think this is falling under the definition of what is a “public accommodation“. And stadiums fall under that. Also, such facilities are subject to the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
I’m damn curious to see what the Judge’s decision will be.
Beerman
6.5 Creedmoor
Good points, to be sure. If football stadiums and NASCAR races can qualify for a TFR from the FAA, I think it’s safe to say that the NFL can impose rules for attendees at games, regardless of who owns the stadium.
Yes.