New way to track suspect credit card sales of guns and ammo approved by international organization

[Deplorable Me]

New way to track suspect credit card sales of guns and ammo approved by international organization

A CBS News investigation found credit card companies initially resisted the proposal.

www.cbsnews.com

And there are those that would abuse their power with access to information.

 

[TEOTWAWKI inc.]

I read this last night. What a bunch of BS. Fuck Warren, the cc companies, banks, ISO, and anyone else involved.

What criteria will be used to determine a suspicious purchase of lawful goods? Some arbitrary quantity, $ amount, frequency, or will it just simply be EVERY purchase from specific vendors throws a red flag? I didn't see anything about a law requiring the cc companies to report, so the data must be shared openly.

 

[Saltwater60]

No cash transactions are next so every gun and ammo transaction will be monitored. I’m glad I did what I did when I did it.
I have to ask how would my credit card company know if the gun I’m buying is legal or not on a web transaction?

Credit Card Sales at Gun Stores Would Be Flagged Under New Code (Published 2022)

The move was approved by a group that sets standards for business transactions, but it was unclear how companies and banks would carry it out.

www.nytimes.com

 

[RedBreast21]

Credit card firms to code gun, ammunition purchases, making them easier to track

Decision comes a week after New York and California asked American Express, Mastercard and Visa to support a merchant category code.

justthenews.com

I'm sure the data was already held but it now appears it will be packaged for sale. That's my guess.

 

[SomeSoldier]

Cash is king.

 

[SomeSoldier]

Cash is king.

 

[Getzville 068]

+1. Pay cash. Or pay by check. Simple.

 

[Beerman]

Imagine how many transactions involving guns/ammo take place daily, legally, nationwide. Now put a filter on them set to “Suspicious.” What could possibly go wrong?

 

[GOYABEAN]

Don't forget 10% for the pedo

 

[Acer-m14]

what if write a POS software system for just FFLs ..

when you scan your CC it just get coded as SEX TOYS .,.

i hated assembly lang coding lol

 

[Acer-m14]

 

[spat]

So, since is coded by vendor, how do they code places that sell guns and other stuff ?

What code does bass pro use ?

Walmart ?


How many accessories does a gun shop have to sell if they want to be coded as "clothing" ?

Are holsters clothing ?

 

[Loworange88]

Wonder about PayPal and Venmo? “Friends and Family”. Guess it would be upto the shop. Big box probably not.

 

[Saltwater60]

Wonder about PayPal and Venmo? “Friends and Family”. Guess it would be upto the shop. Big box probably not.

PayPal doesn’t allow their service for guns. I’m not sure on Venmo. Of course if it’s personal to the owner then it doesn’t really matter, but if something goes wrong they will not assist you.
All three big ones have adopted it.

Payments giants to apply new code identifying sales at U.S. gun stores

The International Organization for Standardization approved creation of a new merchant code for gun retailers following pressure from gun-control activists.

www.cnbc.com

 

[Jchrisls]

PayPal doesn’t allow their service for guns. I’m not sure on Venmo. Of course if it’s personal to the owner then it doesn’t really matter, but if something goes wrong they will not assist you.
All three big ones have adopted it.

Payments giants to apply new code identifying sales at U.S. gun stores

The International Organization for Standardization approved creation of a new merchant code for gun retailers following pressure from gun-control activists.

www.cnbc.com

Ah the ISO. Same people that brought you ISO 9001?

 

[Jmac00]

so if I buy a ghillie suit, tree stand and shotgun, all together, how does that get coded??

 

[Jchrisls]

so if I buy a ghillie suit, tree stand and shotgun, all together, how does that get coded??

Like a bush who loves trees but hates birds.

 

[Saltwater60]

Ah the ISO. Same people that brought you ISO 9001?

I would guess so. They are both the international standards organization. Of course this is only targeting the USA so I’m not sure how it’s an international issue.

 

[Deplorable Me]

So if I order reloading supplies via mail order from a place that sells ammo will it get lumped into the same category? Like dies and presses? How about Hoppe's #9?

 

[1075tech]

If I buy freedom seeds, does that get coded as garden supplies or groceries?

 

[Steal2B]

So if I order reloading supplies via mail order from a place that sells ammo will it get lumped into the same category? Like dies and presses? How about Hoppe's #9?

Talked to a relative who used to process coding data for banks, ... Yes

 

[GOPerfect]

The biggest asset to this Forum are the members. Not all of them, some are definitely not as bright as others are....

Many of these topics, such as this one, have been discussed here at great lengths. Many of these topics were discussed years before the story's were/are real. Topics such as this, the CC thing, Fiat currency and the Social Credit score, just to name a few, were discussed here years ago.

Many of these topics are all coming true, right before our eyes. Years in the past, some people poked fun of members for their input into these topics.

Funny how that works.

 

[Beerman]

Are holsters clothing ?

It depends on what heels you’re wearing, you dirty slut.

 

[diggs223]

I would bet along with the code, method to send the info directly to DHS. Gotta keep an eye on them deplorables

 

[spat]

so if I buy a ghillie suit, tree stand and shotgun, all together, how does that get coded??

It's coded by vendor.

So if you just buy a bag of jerky at a gun shop It's coded as a gun shop purchase.

 

[Catskillkid]

Don't forget 10% for the pedo View attachment 172737

It's coded by vendor.

So if you just buy a bag of jerky at a gun shop It's coded as a gun shop purchase.

So if I purchase the aforementioned bag o' dicks at an FFL I would be flagged the same as buying a gun?

 

[spat]

So if I purchase the aforementioned bag o' dicks at an FFL I would be flagged the same as buying a gun?

Yes.

If they recode Walmart as a gun retailer, then *everything* *everyone* buys from Walmart is coded like buying a gun.

They would have to make the sporting goods counter run a separate transaction system, and even then the camp stove would be coded the same as the rifle.

It is a per retailer code. "What kind of store is it", not "what is in this transaction".

 

[Beerman]

Yes.

If they recode Walmart as a gun retailer, then *everything* *everyone* buys from Walmart is coded like buying a gun.

They would have to make the sporting goods counter run a separate transaction system, and even then the camp stove would be coded the same as the rifle.

It is a per retailer code. "What kind of store is it", not "what is in this transaction".

That’s gonna crash the system! Everyone who shops @ YallMart is *already* suspicious, especially the items they buy.

 

[RooftopKorean]

I wonder if the Supreme Court will intercede on this. It is a clear violation of 4th amendment which justifies protection of privacy.

The super leftist liberals and progressives are using Orwell's 1984 as a fucking how-to manual.

 

[spat]

I wonder if the Supreme Court will intercede on this. It is a clear violation of 4th amendment which justifies protection of privacy.

The super leftist liberals and progressives are using Orwell's 1984 as a fucking how-to manual.

They are all private companies. There is no constitutional prohibition on them sharing this.

They also already categorize all their clients businesses.

This is basically just breaking down the "sporting goods" category into "shooting sports" and "other sports"

Edit:

Prior to the new classification, gun stores were frequently classified as 5399 – Miscellaneous General Merchandise and not 5941 – Sporting Goods Stores

The VISA document specifically says gun shops should have been 5941, but lots of them were 5399 I guess.



I was looking up some of the codes, and I'm honestly surprised there wasn't a gun shop code a long time ago.

There are some pretty specific codes.

– 7273 (Dating and Escort Services)
– 5993 (Cigar Stores and Stands)
-- 5441 Candy, Nut, and Confectionery Stores

The airlines, car rental places, and hotels appear to each have their own unique MCC. Not sure why that is. Even some defunct ones still have a unique code.

3000 UNITED AIRLINES UNITED AIR
3001 AMERICAN AIRLINES AMERICAN AIR
3002 PAN AMERICAN PAN AM AIR
...
3828 COSMOPOLITAN OF LAS VEGAS
3829 COUNTRY INN BY RADISSON

https://usa.visa.com/content/dam/VCOM/download/merchants/visa-merchant-data-standards-manual.pdf