Moving to another state and taking your guns

dsdmmat · Sep 12, 2022

Just pack them in your vehicle and leave. Make sure they are unloaded (long guns) and all guns if going through Maryland or Illinois.

I have moved across country several times. Just pack them up and go.

spat · Sep 12, 2022

Egret-II said:
Hey ya'll
Question.
You have a CCW permit, and a couple of guns. Let's say 4. And you decide to move to another state like Florida or Texas. Can you just take your guns and leave? If not. What is the legal way of doing this? If said person leaves the state and takes his guns (his property) will he get in trouble when if he comes back to NYS or if he gets stop by the cops for a traffic violation?
I'm just asking for a friend.

I loaded mine in a uhaul trailer with a bunch of ammo and some other essentials and we just drove from our house in NY to our new one in AZ.

That's it.

We have both pistols and long guns.

holdover · Sep 12, 2022

Why are you in such a hurry to leave East NY?

1075tech · Sep 12, 2022

spat said:
I loaded mine in a uhaul trailer with a bunch of ammo and some other essentials and we just drove from our house in NY to our new one in AZ.

That's it.

We have both pistols and long guns.

I didn't need a trailer but it was a separate trip.

Egret-II said:
Can you keep the NY permit with another state's address?

Apparently, it depends on the county and who you talk to at that county

spat · Sep 12, 2022

Egret-II said:
It's not me. It's my friend.... he wants to leave before the Gestapos start doing checkpoints at the border of the state.
But seriously tho. You dont have to surrender your permit, nor send your guns to that other state using an FFL or any stupid thing like that. Correct? Also, this is another question now. Can you keep the NY permit with another state's address?

You can keep your permit.

Some counties will say no, but that is not what the law says. In Livingston we just had to email a copy of our new driver's licenses with the new address to the clerk's office.

Other counties you might need a lawyer.

Saltwater60 · Sep 12, 2022

Egret-II said:
It's not me. It's my friend.... he wants to leave before the Gestapos start doing checkpoints at the border of the state.
But seriously tho. You dont have to surrender your permit, nor send your guns to that other state using an FFL or any stupid thing like that. Correct? Also, this is another question now. Can you keep the NY permit with another state's address?

No need to do anything at all expect unload them and keep ammo and guns separate and just drive to where he is going as long as the guns are legal where he is going.
He can keep his permit but he won’t be able to add any new pistols to NYS permit so he will have to be careful when he returns and Carries in NYS again.
Tell Home to enjoy freedom.

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ManualF150 · Sep 12, 2022

Yep, just pack and go.

Keep the guns and ammo separate locked up in the back trunk/bed, and be good to go.

Bustedknees · Sep 12, 2022

Curious as to those who have left packed their guns. If I had to do it tomorrow, I might need 100 blankets?

1075tech · Sep 12, 2022

Bustedknees said:
Curious as to those who have left packed their guns. If I had to do it tomorrow, I might need 100 blankets?

When I did it, I did have a trailer because of a bunch of other stuff.

But, 26 50cal ammo cans went in the trailer along with a few boxes.

30 gun safe went in the back of the truck along with several pistols in hard cases.

The rifles and shotguns were wrapped in blankets and layered on the back seat and floor with other stuff covering.

Saltwater60 · Sep 12, 2022

1075tech said:
When I did it, I did have a trailer because of a bunch of other stuff.

But, 26 50cal ammo cans went in the trailer along with a few boxes.

30 gun safe went in the back of the truck along with several pistols in hard cases.

The rifles and shotguns were wrapped in blankets and layered on the back seat and floor with other stuff covering.

Lightweight.

j/k. That’s some serious shit.

Parzival · Sep 12, 2022

Pack them up and go, follow federal law driving through other non-free states.

Something tells me Westchester isn't going allow him to keep his permit but that's just a hunch.

In Schulyer, I just filled out a change of address amendment as you would if moving within NY. They didn't ask to see anything.

FLA45fan · Sep 13, 2022

When I moved from Chautauqua county to Florida permanently I just packed up the unloaded guns in the truck, in the safes. Kept two loaded ones on me because I already had a Florida CWP . . . a few months later I received my forwarded renewal letter from the NY State Police telling me what I had to do. I called the Chautauqua county permit office. They told me if I no longer owned property or had a job in NYS my permit was no longer valid. If I surrendered it, and decided to ever return to NY Hahahaha I could get it reinstated. Nobody asked about the guns.

Conversely, when I moved into NY, I was required to get a permit first, then have my guns sent FFL to FFL only, so they could be added to my permit. Had to pay for new background checks for guns I already owned . . .

Acer-m14 · Sep 13, 2022

Bustedknees said:
Curious as to those who have left packed their guns. If I had to do it tomorrow, I might need 100 blankets?

haven't moved but gun socks may be a option ..

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09P12T512/

spat · Sep 13, 2022

Parzival said:
Pack them up and go, follow federal law driving through other non-free states.

Something tells me Westchester isn't going allow him to keep his permit but that's just a hunch.

In Schulyer, I just filled out a change of address amendment as you would if moving within NY. They didn't ask to see anything.

Depends on how much he wants it.

They can make it a PITA, but I bet if he gets a lawyer involved they figure it out.

spat · Sep 13, 2022

Acer-m14 said:
haven't moved but gun socks may be a option ..

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09P12T512/

When we moved we packed everything with clothes.

Why use newspaper for dishes. They all got sweaters and sweatshirts.

Socks work great for glasses

Blankets, towels, etc.

spat · Sep 13, 2022

Bustedknees said:
Curious as to those who have left packed their guns. If I had to do it tomorrow, I might need 100 blankets?

I had a bunch of cases. A few of the foam lined boxes like you get from PSA. Some just got wrapped in towels and put back in the safe that was laid on its back in the u-haul and had all the empty space filled with other stuff.

We even brought some houseplants in that uhaul LOL.

Acer-m14 · Sep 13, 2022

also be on the look out at truck stops .. and around town .. for like United Van Lines .. semi moving trucks ..

sometimes you can get some free moving padded blankets from them

ask nicely

dsdmmat · Sep 13, 2022

Bustedknees said:
Curious as to those who have left packed their guns. If I had to do it tomorrow, I might need 100 blankets?

I put everything in soft cases, hard cases, original boxes and gun socks.

Saltwater60 · Sep 13, 2022

If I’m not mistaken they need to allow him to keep his permit. He will have to update the address and go through the bullshit required. If it’s a renewal and not a recertification I’m not sure how he will complete the training requirement unless he does it while he is back here. He will then have to decide if it is worth it or not and how much time he will spend in NYS.

zorro · Sep 13, 2022

Parzival said:
Pack them up and go, follow federal law driving through other non-free states.

Something tells me Westchester isn't going allow him to keep his permit but that's just a hunch.

In Schulyer, I just filled out a change of address amendment as you would if moving within NY. They didn't ask to see anything.

I had a Westchester permit and I then moved to CT

Westchester would not let me renew under any circumstances - argued plenty with them and also provided info confirming I was entitled to keep it………..but they simply refused to even look at anything

And that is even with a Cabin in the Adirondacks - so still NYS

Only way around it for me was to transfer my permit to Oneida County who were happy to allow me to keep it - I do however need to renew it annually as Oneida county is not my permanent residence - that is a PITA

I also have CT and FL CCW permits

Far king · Sep 21, 2022

zorro said:
I had a Westchester permit and I then moved to CT

Westchester would not let me renew under any circumstances - argued plenty with them and also provided info confirming I was entitled to keep it………..but they simply refused to even look at anything

And that is even with a Cabin in the Adirondacks - so still NYS

Only way around it for me was to transfer my permit to Oneida County who were happy to allow me to keep it - I do however need to renew it annually as Oneida county is not my permanent residence - that is a PITA

I also have CT and FL CCW permits

The guns are your property. Just pack them up and leave and when you arrive in your new state call the nys governors office and the superintendent of the state police and tell them both to eat shit !

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