Ukraine - Russia Conflict (Original Title: Things are heating up in the Donbass)

[spat]

They love him. I pay very close attention to what is happening, in the Country as well as this current conflict. I read non US newspapers, and I watch the news from non-US TV media. Not just Russian news, news from many different places. He is not going to get popped in the head.

We shall see.

I do not see any end game for this that works out well for Russia.

They had a brief window in February for this to work out. By the end of March they had lost that window.

 

[GOPerfect]

In a street fight you *do* kick the guy in the balls.

Then you gouge out his eyes.

Your goal is not to reach some polite agreement. Your goal is to make your enemy regret ever getting into the fight to begin with.

He said you can, he also stated that payback is a bitch.

Using the kick to the balls....

If I get in a fight and I am kicked in the balls, I will, as soon as able, do so much worse and so much longer lasting.

Payback is an absolute bitch.

 

[holdover]

In a street fight you *do* kick the guy in the balls.

Then you gouge out his eyes.

Your goal is not to reach some polite agreement. Your goal is to make your enemy regret ever getting into the fight to begin with.

Or you can knock him the fuck out.

You must not have any balls

 

[spat]

Everyone here has to stop thinking Ukraine is making their own defense. The US and NATO is balls deep in this. We are in a defacto state of war with Russia. Let that sink in.

Russia needs to be very careful to make sure we keep pretending we are not.

If we go all in, there will be no Russian military.

 

[GOPerfect]

We shall see.

I do not see any end game for this that works out well for Russia.

They had a brief window in February for this to work out. By the end of March they had lost that window.

Maybe, I do not think the world has yet to see the terribleness of the Russian military.

 

[GOPerfect]

Russia needs to be very careful to make sure we keep pretending we are not.

If we go all in, there will be no Russian military.

The US is not going to fully enter this, not ever.

 

[holdover]

He said you can, he also stated that payback is a bitch.

Using the kick to the balls....

If I get in a fight and I am kicked in the balls, I will, as soon as able, do so much worse and so much longer lasting.

Payback is an absolute bitch.

Thats what Im sayin.

 

[holdover]

Maybe, I do not think the world has yet to see the terribleness of the Russian military.

Supposedly, at the beginning of the war they had an army of 900,000, they only sent 200,000 into Ukraine

 

[spat]

He said you can, he also stated that payback is a bitch.

Using the kick to the balls....

If I get in a fight and I am kicked in the balls, I will, as soon as able, do so much worse and so much longer lasting.

Payback is an absolute bitch.

If your enemy is holding back then you aren't in a real fight.

If you're enemy is all in, then why aren't you ?

 

[holdover]

If your enemy is holding back then you aren't in a real fight.

If you're enemy is all in, then why aren't you ?

WHy not just shoot him? because its not a fight to the death.

 

[GOPerfect]

If your enemy is holding back then you aren't in a real fight.

If you're enemy is all in, then why aren't you ?

The Russians do not need to at this point. The Ukraine is much weaker than Russia.

When I get into with a crim at work, I size him up and decide how much I need to use against him. I do not give my all to that use of force if I do not need to.

 

[spat]

Supposedly, at the beginning of the war they had an army of 900,000, they only sent 200,000 into Ukraine

We had 2 million when we sent 500k into Iraq too.


You cannot send everyone. Half need to stay behind in support roles. Unless you intend to leave the rest of your borders completely unguarded you need quite a few there too.

200k probably was 100% of the forces they had available for an expeditionary force.

 

[holdover]

If you dont shoot him in the head your holding back.

 

[spat]

WHy not just shoot him? because its not a fight to the death.

If you can shoot him, then shoot him.

If Ukraine still had their nukes, Moscow and St Petersburg would be fair game at this point.

Never give up your nukes.

 

[spat]

If you dont shoot him in the head your holding back.

If Ukraine could assassinate Putin tomorrow, they would be stupid not to.

 

[holdover]

We had 2 million when we sent 500k into Iraq too.


You cannot send everyone. Half need to stay behind in support roles. Unless you intend to leave the rest of your borders completely unguarded you need quite a few there too.

200k probably was 100% of the forces they had available for an expeditionary force.

I dont think we had a 2 million man peacetime standing army and Im pretty sure went sent around 7- 900,000. But your point is still valid.

 

[holdover]

If Ukraine could assassinate Putin tomorrow, they would be stupid not to.

Yeah?

 

[holdover]

I wouldnt give a cup of spit for Zelenskis life before the Russians the Ukrainians or NATO decide he has to go .

 

[spat]

Yeah?

Absolutely. Anyone in his inner circle too.

 

[spat]

I wouldnt give a cup of spit for Zelenskis life before the Russians the Ukrainians or NATO decide he has to go .

NATO finds him useful, the Ukrainians love him, and Russia can't touch him.

He's fine for right now.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

If Ukraine could assassinate Putin tomorrow, they would be stupid not to.

Like an assassination is going to suddenly reverse the situation... if you haven't realized, our own government WANTS this conflict.

 

[holdover]

For the moment. Hesa CIA asset like Bin Laden. Once he served his purpose he will be dis guarded.

 

[holdover]

our own government WANTS this conflict.

Sometimes I wonder if ww3 isnt the goal the way they are acting. they end up with all the chips just like Lex Luthor .

 

[spat]

I dont think we had a 2 million man peacetime standing army and Im pretty sure went sent around 7- 900,000. But your point is still valid.

You're half right.

I looked up the numbers. The US had 697,000 troops committed to the Gulf war.



But total active duty at that time were over 2 million.

ARMY. 710,821
NAVY 570,292
MARINE CORP 194,040
AIR FORCE 510,432

 

[ArmedCorgi]

Sometimes I wonder if ww3 isnt the goal the way they are acting. they end up with all the chips just like Lex Luthor .

WW3 is the goal of the establishment. How else can one explain the out right bull shit that has happened since Biden took office. At the very least. It's safe to say 'they' don't have our interests at heart.

 

[holdover]

WW3 is the goal of the establishment. How else can one explain the out right bull shit that has happened since Biden took office. At the very least. It's safe to say 'they' don't have our interests at heart.

Well I have to agree with you there.

 

[spat]

Like an assassination is going to suddenly reverse the situation... if you haven't realized, our own government WANTS this conflict.

I think Putin was manipulated into this the same way Hussein was, stinks of CIA the same way.

The whole thing is a disaster for Russia. They are no longer a rival for our control of the world. This disaster has completely eliminated them from contention.

So, it has served its purpose. Also, many very powerful people in Russia are getting badly screwed by this.

I would not want to be in Putin's shoes right now

 

[spat]

WW3 is the goal of the establishment. How else can one explain the out right bull shit that has happened since Biden took office. At the very least. It's safe to say 'they' don't have our interests at heart.

They want a "great reset" and they don't get much greater than that.

Their goal is to further centralize power. They need to eliminate capitalism and anything else that allows people a measure of control over their own destiny for that.

 

[holdover]

They want a "great reset" and they don't get much greater than that.

Their goal is to further centralize power. They need to eliminate capitalism and anything else that allows people a measure of control over their own destiny for that.

yeah it makes ya wonder. And they get to rebuild it in thier image

 

[Vapor]

They will. They will control as much as they want.

Except if that happens I have a feeling MAD will occur and it'll just be cock roaches and deep ocean life left.



So yeah we all will "win".

"For the earth to heal we must die. No one deserves it more."-Motorhead