Zelensky wants fighter jets or air support

[tony]

Saw on the news that Mr. Zelensky wants the US and NATO to give them fighter jets or close the skies over the Ukraine.

Anyone have thoughts on this ?

Could this turn into another " Bay of pigs " situation ???

If you don't know about the bay of pigs you'd better google it before it gets erased like the rest of our history...

 

[Phazer]

Mr. Zelensky wants the US and NATO to give them fighter jets or close the skies over the Ukraine.

And I want a unicorn that eats garbage, shits diamonds, and pisses oil.

Looks like we're both going to be disappointed.

 

[tirwin1]

Wish in one hand, shit in the other and see which one gets filled first.

 

[spat]

Saw on the news that Mr. Zelensky wants the US and NATO to give them fighter jets or close the skies over the Ukraine.

Anyone have thoughts on this ?

Could this turn into another " Bay of pigs " situation ???

If you don't know about the bay of pigs you'd better google it before it gets erased like the rest of our history...

I would think more like the "American volunteer group situation."

Or as it's more widely known, the Flying Tigers.


The modern version would be we sell Ukraine a couple dozen F35s on credit.

Then we arrange for a couple dozen pilots to temporarily resign their airforce comission and join the Ukranian air force.

that would pretty much instantly change the whole dynamic.

Flying Tigers - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Deplorable Me]

Air cover?

Can we send him our barrage blimps?

 

[Nevar]

FUCK him. We gave way to much.

 

[holdover]

I want to sleep with Natalie Portman

 

[Mosinitis]

No fly zones and closing the skies is an act of war. NATO is not going to start WWIII.

 

[Mosinitis]

Few days ago Zelensky asked NATO for preamptive nuclear strike on Russia. I don't think he is taken seriously anymore. His mind is effected by heavy drug use.

 

[spat]

I want to sleep with Natalie Portman
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I would *not* be sleeping...

 

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[Grimscale]

I would *not* be sleeping...

I would not be with Natalie Portman.
Just another woke actress.

 

[spat]

I would not be with Natalie Portman.
Just another woke actress.

The crazy chick's are the best in bed. Just don't hang out with them

She's easily at the top right corner of the matrix here, so it's a bit of a judgement call.

 

[GOYABEAN]

It's 2022 I'm more than sure with all those millions he received that Ukraine has a Craigslist

 

[holdover]

I would not be with Natalie Portman.
Just another woke actress.

I dont care if she was a card carrying communist

 

[NY Chamorro]

how about zelenski eat a fat one!!!! How much fucking more is the US going to spend on this.

 

[skywarner]

No fly zones and closing the skies is an act of war. NATO is not going to start WWIII.

Perhaps not, but the resident pedo-in-chief dementia patient could very well bumble his way into WWIII Lite, Tactical Edition.

 

[NY Chamorro]

united-states-military-aid-ukraine-war-weapons

 

[holdover]

And Trump was denied 5 billion to build a wall. How much could that money have helped Veterans, orphans, widows, small business, infrastructure and jobs. these fuckers are treasonous. They have no interest in helping our own people

 

[holdover]

Perhaps not, but the resident pedo-in-chief dementia patient could very well bumble his way into WWIII Lite, Tactical Edition.

Some times I wonder if that isnt the plan all along.

 

[spat]

I would not be with Natalie Portman.
Just another woke actress.

Also, I would *not* be talking politics LOL.

 

[holdover]

Also, I would *not* be talking politics LOL.

Exactly! Unless she wanted me to join the communist party BLM or Antifa, which I would happily do

 

[RedBreast21]

April 2022, this is over in weeks..

There is a lot that we in the west aren't hearing the truth about. We heard putin was dying, the Russian army is done, Ukraine will crush putin, regime change,......ect. That all appeared to be propaganda now. I listened to putin's speech after the elections. Its worth a listen. Especially the way he is using the Wests "wokeism" narrative. Also listen to the Eastern Economic Forum speeches.

Only way to be informed is to hear and analyze both sides.

 

[NY Chamorro]

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[libertysnake]

I dont care if she was a card carrying communist

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All I think of when I see her is that one weird time on SNL:

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

I would think more like the "American volunteer group situation."

Or as it's more widely known, the Flying Tigers.


The modern version would be we sell Ukraine a couple dozen F35s on credit.

Then we arrange for a couple dozen pilots to temporarily resign their airforce comission and join the Ukranian air force.

that would pretty much instantly change the whole dynamic.

Flying Tigers - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Within a week of arriving in Ukraine the majority of f35s either wouldn't be airworthy or would have their stealth capabilities degraded.

These things are maintenance pigs. They take a lot of very highly skilled and trained maintenance and expensive parts to stay fully combat operational.

Then there would be a risk of Russia capturing one and reverse engineering aspects and gathering intelligence on performance and how to counter them.

 

[spat]

Within a week of arriving in Ukraine the majority of f35s either wouldn't be airworthy or would have their stealth capabilities degraded.

These things are maintenance pigs. They take a lot of very highly skilled and trained maintenance and expensive parts to stay fully combat operational.

Then there would be a risk of Russia capturing one and reverse engineering aspects and gathering intelligence on performance and how to counter them.

They would be flown back to a NATO base for maintenance I am sure. Maintainence contracts are a thing.

If we can offer them to the Brits for their nuclear missiles, I am sure we can do it for Ukraine and some fighters.

Within a week they may not need a stealth coating anymore though. The SEAD and air supremacy would be established by then.

They would be running in "beast mode" as bomb trucks by then anyway. Stealth is not available in "beast mode".

 

[FP1201]

how about zelenski eat a fat one!!!! How much fucking more is the US going to spend on this.

If our economy crashes, you can expect sippy-cup to take us to war with Russia on behalf of Ukraine... we're already supplying them with arms, munitions, and advisors... Ever hear about the US involvement in Korea, Viet-Nam, and a dozen other Countries where we kicked ass but ultimately went home with our tail between our legs? Same shit, different Country.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

They would be flown back to a NATO base for maintenance I am sure. Maintainence contracts are a thing.

If we can offer them to the Brits for their nuclear missiles, I am sure we can do it for Ukraine and some fighters.

Within a week they may not need a stealth coating anymore though. The SEAD and air supremacy would be established by then.

They would be running in "beast mode" as bomb trucks by then anyway. Stealth is not available in "beast mode".

In your scenario where American "volunteer" pilots are flying American built fighter jets, from NATO bases killing Russian troops, is Russia justified to launch missile strikes on those NATO bases?

 

[spat]

In your scenario where American "volunteer" pilots are flying American built fighter jets, from NATO bases killing Russian troops, is Russia justified to launch missile strikes on those NATO bases?

Does Russia care what's justified ?

They're as justified as Saddam Hussein would have been attacking the US bases in Saudia Arabia during Desert Storm.

It would probably go as well for Putin as it would have for Hussein too.


If it weren't for Russian nukes this would be nearly the same scenario as the invasion of Kuwait was.


Also, I'm sure the F35s wouldn't fly armed from Nato bases. They would surely have to stop in a Ukranian base to arm up before vaporizing Russian assets.