Ukraine - Russia Conflict (Original Title: Things are heating up in the Donbass)

[Mosinitis]

You're disappointed that ww3 didn't start??

Huh?
Ok......


The black sea isn't Russias personal pond any more than the South China sea is to china or the gulf of Mexico is to Mexico.

All countries spy on each other all the time. Russia spies on the US and UK from international airspace all the time. Should we hope their planes are shot down too?

Russia just flew 2 nuclear bombers off the Alaska air identification zone like 2 days ago.



But, you do have a fair point about giving drones to the IRA. That is more comparable to what we are doing. Maybe the Russians should arm the Mexican cartels too.

There is no British territory or colonies on the Black Sea. There is no reason for British military aircraft to patrol there. Obviously he was collecting military intelligence for Ukrainian military. He is a legitimate target. WWIII will not start after downing of one airplane and the way NATO is interfering, such incident is bound to happen sooner or later. To use an old cliché; play stupid games win stupid prizes.

 

[holdover]

I keep seeing reports of a large Ukrainian build up of forces near Kershon . Russians have evacuated civilians from west side of river.
something big is shaping up near kershon. power is out in most of Ukraine right now. Its got to be a fucking nightmare for civilians there

 

[GOPerfect]

 

[GOPerfect]

I keep seeing reports of a large Ukrainian build up of forces near Kershon . Russians have evacuated civilians from west side of river.
something big is shaping up near kershon. power is out in most of Ukraine right now. Its got to be a fucking nightmare for civilians there

I believe, from some of what I have read, there is going to be some very serious bombing there in the upcoming days, if not hours.

 

[Mosinitis]

Official reason for evacuation of civilians from Kherson is the threat of Ukrainians blowing up a dam at Kahovskaya hydroelectric station and causing a massive flood. However there are lots of speculation around this move. One of which is that Russians are planning to repeat Stalingrad type of scenario with the same outcome. It was called operation Saturn. This could also be a distraction from the main offensive from Belarus territory or maybe a plan for two fronts.

 

[spat]

There is no British territory or colonies on the Black Sea. There is no reason for British military aircraft to patrol there. Obviously he was collecting military intelligence for Ukrainian military. He is a legitimate target. WWIII will not start after downing of one airplane and the way NATO is interfering, such incident is bound to happen sooner or later. To use an old cliché; play stupid games win stupid prizes.

Britain is part of NATO. NATO has lots of territory to oversee in the area.

If you think it's a good idea for Russia to shoot down a NATO plane in international airspace you're even more delusional than Putin.

 

[holdover]

Official reason for evacuation of civilians from Kherson is the threat of Ukrainians blowing up a dam at Kahovskaya hydroelectric station and causing a massive flood. However there are lots of speculation around this move. One of which is that Russians are planning to repeat Stalingrad type of scenario with the same outcome. It was called operation Saturn. This could also be a distraction from the main offensive from Belarus territory or maybe a plan for two fronts.

No doubt. the river dividing the city mimics it. I dont expect the Russians to leave Kershon voluntarily Ive also heard talk of Poland annexing parts of Ukraine to prevent the Russians from advancing further . it would make parts of Ukraine instant NATO members

I also heard there are polish troops Near Kershon under a Ukrainian flag

No way to verify any of it .

 

[GOPerfect]

Official reason for evacuation of civilians from Kherson is the threat of Ukrainians blowing up a dam at Kahovskaya hydroelectric station and causing a massive flood. However there are lots of speculation around this move. One of which is that Russians are planning to repeat Stalingrad type of scenario with the same outcome. It was called operation Saturn. This could also be a distraction from the main offensive from Belarus territory or maybe a plan for two fronts.

I have not been a fan of Nate, Canadian Prepper as of late, but he speels this out pretty well in this video:

 

[GOPerfect]

Britain is part of NATO. NATO has lots of territory to oversee in the area.

If you think it's a good idea for Russia to shoot down a NATO plane in international airspace you're even more delusional than Putin.

The UK plane was flying over and through Russian airspace. they would have had every right to shoot it down. The Brits are playing with fire.

 

[GOPerfect]

The Kherson Dam will be decimated by next week, one way or another.

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[spat]

The UK plane was flying over and through Russian airspace. they would have had every right to shoot it down. The Brits are playing with fire.

Depends on who you ask whether the plane was in international airspace or not.

In any case it was very close to the border.

The Russians also claim they fired the missile accidentally.

I'm not sure I trust them to even know exactly where the border is.

 

[holdover]

The Kherson Dam will be decimated by next week, one way or another.

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Kinda what Im thinking too. The east bank of the Dinper river in Kershon is lower than the west bank . That would prevent the Ukrainians from taking all of kershon in case things go south for the russians and put a stop to any offensive in the area.

 

[GOPerfect]

Kinda what Im thinking too. The east bank of the Dinper river in Kershon is lower than the west bank . That would prevent the Ukrainians from taking all of kershon in case things go south for the russians and put a stop to any offensive in the area.

It is amazing how much I have learned about all of the areas over there because of this little conflict. Prior to this, I could barely identify these places on a map. I am actually getting good at the pronunciation of the words there.

I almost feel like a near expert these days.

So many still do not understand the most basic of the goings on.

 

[Defilade]

The timing is perfect. Let's start off WW3 with a False Flag from the Biden administration prior to the midterms. If they dont...well the funding or better known as Money Laundering will go bye bye and serious investigations of this illegitimate POS administration' will happen.

 

[Mosinitis]

Britain is part of NATO. NATO has lots of territory to oversee in the area.

If you think it's a good idea for Russia to shoot down a NATO plane in international airspace you're even more delusional than Putin.

NATO membership doesn't give protection to individual member involved in a terrorist activity. Russian investigation showed British involvement in a terrorist attack on Crimean bridge.

 

[Mosinitis]

It is amazing how much I have learned about all of the areas over there because of this little conflict. Prior to this, I could barely identify these places on a map. I am actually getting good at the pronunciation of the words there.

I almost feel like a near expert these days.

So many still do not understand the most basic of the goings on.

I was in Kherson when I was 5-6 year old. It was a family one day cruise on one of these speed boats Odessa-Kherson. The only thing I remember is getting sea sick. There wasn't much to see there, it was mainly a sea cruise. Sevastopol was really a nice place to visit, lots of history there.

 

[spat]

NATO membership doesn't give protection to individual member involved in a terrorist activity. Russian investigation showed British involvement in a terrorist attack on Crimean bridge.

Even if that were true, what does that have to do with this plane ?

You claimed that the UK had no right to fly that plane there (apparently completely ignoring the concept of international airspace). I merely pointed out that they *do* have legitimate business there as a member of NATO.

Not that you *need* to justify your use of international airspace to anyone anyway.

It was a reconnaissance aircraft. Britain wanted to see how things were going in Ukraine. They have every right.

Hell, with Zelensky's permission the US could fly a squadron of F35s and some B2s right up to the Russian border if they wanted. Putin would throw a fit, but all he could do about it would be stomp his feet and throw a tantrum.

 

[Mosinitis]

Even if that were true, what does that have to do with this plane ?

You claimed that the UK had no right to fly that plane there (apparently completely ignoring the concept of international airspace). I merely pointed out that they *do* have legitimate business there as a member of NATO.

Not that you *need* to justify your use of international airspace to anyone anyway.

It was a reconnaissance aircraft. Britain wanted to see how things were going in Ukraine. They have every right.

Hell, with Zelensky's permission the US could fly a squadron of F35s and some B2s right up to the Russian border if they wanted. Putin would throw a fit, but all he could do about it would be stomp his feet and throw a tantrum.

Someone was monitoring the truck and detonated at the right time next to that fuel train.

 

[spat]

Someone was monitoring the truck and detonated at the right time next to that fuel train.

I'm sure they were.

Unless Russia claims some guy was smoking in the engine room again LOL.

But even if they had caught a squad of SAS with the detonator in hand, that has nothing to do with this plane.

 

[GOPerfect]

I was in Kherson when I was 5-6 year old. It was a family one day cruise on one of these speed boats Odessa-Kherson. The only thing I remember is getting sea sick. There wasn't much to see there, it was mainly a sea cruise. Sevastopol was really a nice place to visit, lots of history there.


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I have done more tracing and researching in my family tree. I have found that I have some Ukrainians in that tree.

Found out that Vseslav of Polotsk is my 29th G Grandfather. Used to be the Grand Prince of Keiv.

 

[Mosinitis]

I'm sure they were.

Unless Russia claims some guy was smoking in the engine room again LOL.

But even if they had caught a squad of SAS with the detonator in hand, that has nothing to do with this plane.

They had to monitor the truck with explosives AND activity on the bridge. This can only be done from above.

 

[holdover]

The way the bridge was dropped in two 2or3 different spots , and the ""lucky"" video of a truck going over the bridge, Im inclined to believe it was spec ops mission. In my opinion, there is no way possible that a truck bomb can do what were seeing. the bridge was cut mid-span in 3 places several hundred feet apart. We observe that the burned area of the lower bridge is where the ""truck bomb"" went off, however several hundred feet to the East and West the bridges were cut again, mid span .Another observation is that while the bridge was cut several hundred feet to the n and w. the span right next to the blast area received little or no damage while the 2nd bridge sustained a lot more secondary damage skipping over the 2nd span of the bombed bridge. The bomb would have had to go off in a straight line instead of all directions . the lower right corner of the picture 2 and the upper right corner of picture 3 show the third cut to the bridge several hundred feet from the blast just past its strongest point near the pier.

In my opinion, charges were placed correctly under the bridges center span in several spots , but only a few of the charges detonated . the truck video , was a cover story to explain what happened . it looks like the work of some frogmen of unknown country.








A vital transport link for Putin's army, the Kerch Bridge connected Crimea and Russia, leading to the Kremlin pointing the finger of blame at Ukraine.

The Kremlin said that a truck full of explosives blew up the passageway, however experts have disputed these claims.

After assessing the incident, the Molfar experts produced a report which was said to have demonstrated a lack of damage to the surface of the road, which would be indicative of a potential truck bomb.

Instead, researchers spotted something on a recording of the blast, which appears to show the explosion occurring underneath the bridge, reports the Daily Mail.

Kerch Bridge blast 'could have been caused by a water drone supplied by the US'

Independent military researches have surveyed footage of the explosion and have reported that the Kremlin's claims suggesting Ukraine had supplied a truck-based bomb are likely incorrect

www.mirror.co.uk

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

The timing is perfect. Let's start off WW3 with a False Flag from the Biden administration prior to the midterms. If they dont...well the funding or better known as Money Laundering will go bye bye and serious investigations of this illegitimate POS administration' will happen.

I have been watching almost every video this guy puts out. Many of them are great.

This one is very interesting. I'm not sure what it means exactly but there are many possibilities all of them bad.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

The way the bridge was dropped in two 2or3 different spots , and the ""lucky"" video of a truck going over the bridge, Im inclined to believe it was spec ops mission. In my opinion, there is no way possible that a truck bomb can do what were seeing. the bridge was cut mid-span in 3 places several hundred feet apart. We observe that the burned area of the lower bridge is where the ""truck bomb"" went off, however several hundred feet to the East and West the bridges were cut again, mid span .Another observation is that while the bridge was cut several hundred feet to the n and w. the span right next to the blast area received little or no damage while the 2nd bridge sustained a lot more secondary damage skipping over the 2nd span of the bombed bridge. The bomb would have had to go off in a straight line instead of all directions . the lower right corner of the picture 2 and the upper right corner of picture 3 show the third cut to the bridge several hundred feet from the blast just past its strongest point near the pier.

In my opinion, charges were placed correctly under the bridges center span in several spots , but only a few of the charges detonated . the truck video , was a cover story to explain what happened . it looks like the work of some frogmen of unknown country.

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A vital transport link for Putin's army, the Kerch Bridge connected Crimea and Russia, leading to the Kremlin pointing the finger of blame at Ukraine.

The Kremlin said that a truck full of explosives blew up the passageway, however experts have disputed these claims.

After assessing the incident, the Molfar experts produced a report which was said to have demonstrated a lack of damage to the surface of the road, which would be indicative of a potential truck bomb.

Instead, researchers spotted something on a recording of the blast, which appears to show the explosion occurring underneath the bridge, reports the Daily Mail.

Kerch Bridge blast 'could have been caused by a water drone supplied by the US'

Independent military researches have surveyed footage of the explosion and have reported that the Kremlin's claims suggesting Ukraine had supplied a truck-based bomb are likely incorrect

www.mirror.co.uk

Very little has been talked about this incident.

This looks like a Ukrainian spec ops/seal clandestine insertion type vessel and it mysteriously washed ashore a week or 2 before the bridge explosion.

Hasn't been mentioned or discussed since.

Russia on alert as ‘suspected’ Ukrainian military drone washed up

According to reports, an unidentified USV (uncrewed surface vessel) was found on a beach near Russia's major naval base at Sevastopol today.

www.express.co.uk

 

[Phazer]

Very little has been talked about this incident.

This looks like a Ukrainian spec ops/seal clandestine insertion type vessel and it mysteriously washed ashore a week or 2 before the bridge explosion.

Hasn't been mentioned or discussed since.

Russia on alert as ‘suspected’ Ukrainian military drone washed up

According to reports, an unidentified USV (uncrewed surface vessel) was found on a beach near Russia's major naval base at Sevastopol today.

www.express.co.uk

According to local reports, the device was towed out to sea and destroyed. Local media reported “The explosion in Sevastopol is the destruction of a floating drone.”

Ummm, no. That's not how you handle newfound enemy technology.

 

[spat]

They had to monitor the truck with explosives AND activity on the bridge. This can only be done from above.

So, they shot at a plane on Sep 29th because they were involved in blowing up a bridge on Oct 8th ?

 

[Defilade]

Here we go!

NEXT NWO BITCH EXPOSED. War is inevitable...

ADM. MICHEL GILDAY, U.S CHIEF NAVAL OPERATIONS






@ExposeThePEDOSendOfTheCABAL
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Next DS PLAYER & TRAITOR exposed...

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[livingston]

We are not prepared for war folks ... Too much tech is produced oversea's Within a few weeks I feel N. Korea , Iran, China and Russia will be our war fronts ... Shipping will come to a crawl. .. If not stop.
We have had an open border policy .. Thanks to the liberals. How many sleeper cells ... Thousands ? are sitting in the United States. ... How many SAMS did we leave behind in our last war folks ? How many are here on our soil ? .. Just waiting
Will anyone flying be safe ? We have tens of thousands of trucks just sitting due to the lack of parts in this country. .. Look to have a prolonged war of years folks.

 

[Mosinitis]

So, they shot at a plane on Sep 29th because they were involved in blowing up a bridge on Oct 8th ?

This conflict is over?

 

[spat]

This conflict is over?

Just asking how you thought the bridge explosion possibly justified this, since it didn't happen until over a week later.