New way to track suspect credit card sales of guns and ammo approved by international organization

[Steal2B]

 

[Acer-m14]

wonders who is behind this ..

ummmm in the video below ..

 

[Deplorable Me]

They promise privacy until I get the next notice of a data breach and another 5 years of free data credit monitoring. I've lost track of all the data breach notices I've received over the years. What's sad is they've never bagged any of these government contractors doing the hacking.

Modern electronic warfare.

 

[Saltwater60]

Well this is interesting in a few ways. I guess the NRA woke up and finally decided to comment on something.
Also in the article it states that only sales at gun stores will be tracked and not those of other general merchandise stores. For instance it seems if you buy a gun at say Walmart or cabelas it won’t get flagged as a gun sale but if you buy one at your local mom and pop gun store it will. Is this because they can control the big retailers and want us to buy our guns from them?
Here is the paragraph I’m referring to. So if they don’t know what we bought how can they tell if it’s illegal or a suspicious activity as they claim the need is for this??
The new code will apply to all purchases at gun and ammunition stores, though gun sales at other types of retailers won't be captured separately, Bloomberg reported.

NRA slams credit card company code to track purchases at US gun shops, claiming it's 'creating a national registry of gun owners'

The decision by Visa, MasterCard and American Express follows pressure from gun-control activists to more easily identify firearm sales.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[Tisto]

They will force retailers that sell other categories of items such as Cabelas to have a seperate checkout for guns and ammunition. This will fix the coding issue by seperating the sales.

The data generated by this belongs to private companies, and as such, they will do with it as they please. They will share every bit of the data with law enforcement. There will probably be an entirely new division of the ATF set up to scrutinize all the data.

This is another avenue of the whole "cashless society" agenda. Having EVERY transaction run through some form of electronic payment system allows for the complete tracking of everyone. Where you were at what time, and what you purchased will be recorded. That will be matched with your phone's gps system. There will be noplace you can hide. It also means that by hitting a few buttons on a keyboard, you can be completely cut off. It will also cause a black market of sorts, where people will barter for items and services.

Because I don't know the answer, when you use your bank debit card, is that transaction processed through one of the credit card companies and therefore coded as well, or is that processed by the bank itself ?

 

[TEOTWAWKI inc.]

This is TSUSA’s response to my question of alternate forms of payment. They say they don’t “itemize purchases”.


Thank you for your inquiry,


While we value your concern, we currently only accept major credit cards (Visa, American Express, Discover and Master Card) for purchases. Your purchases are not reported itemized to your credit card companies by Target Sports USA.

Thank you, Meghan Erkson Prime Service Manager
Target Sports USA
30 Fieldstone Court
Cheshire, CT 06410
P: 860-426-9886 x.116
E: prime@targetsportsusa.com F: 888-908-0831
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From: Sales Department - Target Sports USA <sales@targetsportsusa.com>
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 8:42 AM
To: Ivana Gabela <IvanaD@targetsportsusa.com>; Prime <prime@targetsportsusa.com>
Subject: Fw: Payment Methods

Thank you, Miodrag M. Delmic President/CEO
Target Sports USA
30 Fieldstone Court
Cheshire, CT 06410
P: 860-426-9886
E: sales@targetsportsusa.com F: 888-908-0831
www.targetsportsusa.com
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From:Mothman
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2022 9:25 PM
To: Sales Department - Target Sports USA <sales@targetsportsusa.com>
Subject: Payment Methods





In light of the new policy of credit card companies that will involve
tracking and flagging of firearm or ammunition purchases will you be
accepting alternate forms of payment such as personal checks or crypto
currencies? I do not see these as options under payment information This
new policy will, in my opinion put me at risk of being flagged for the
regular purchases I make with you. If not I will need to make different
arrangement in order to purchase ammunition.

Thank You

Prime Member Mothman

2 things:

You violated their confidentiality statement.
The lady in the thread is 'Ivana D'

 

[livingston]

What Credit Card Companies Tracking Your Gun Purchases Really Means to You Now...and Later​

Washington Gun Law President, William Kirk, discusses the recent adoption by the International Organization of Standardization of a new banking code that financial institutions will use to track credit card purchases from lawful and responsible gun owners. This, for the first time, allows financial institutions and credit card companies to monitor and track purchases related to one's Second Amendment Rights. But the data that is being collected under the guise of saving lives will be worthless and misleading to law enforcement. What does this mean to you today and in the future?

 

[Jchrisls]

They will force retailers that sell other categories of items such as Cabelas to have a seperate checkout for guns and ammunition. This will fix the coding issue by seperating the sales.

The data generated by this belongs to private companies, and as such, they will do with it as they please. They will share every bit of the data with law enforcement. There will probably be an entirely new division of the ATF set up to scrutinize all the data.

This is another avenue of the whole "cashless society" agenda. Having EVERY transaction run through some form of electronic payment system allows for the complete tracking of everyone. Where you were at what time, and what you purchased will be recorded. That will be matched with your phone's gps system. There will be noplace you can hide. It also means that by hitting a few buttons on a keyboard, you can be completely cut off. It will also cause a black market of sorts, where people will barter for items and services.

Because I don't know the answer, when you use your bank debit card, is that transaction processed through one of the credit card companies and therefore coded as well, or is that processed by the bank itself ?

Don't quote me, but since it's endorsed usually by a major CC company on the front I believe it's processed throughout that CC company. Made sense back in the day that having a million different bank systems processing transactions would be difficult and extremely costly to each bank, and that the existing infrastructure was in place for CC processing through the existing networks to tag onto that infrastructure made more sense.

 

[fresch]

So if I purchase the aforementioned bag o' dicks at an FFL I would be flagged the same as buying a gun?

Soo, are you contemplating a purchase?
Cuz you kinda outed yer self before the CC company; way to get out in front of it!

 

[Catskillkid]

Soo, are you contemplating a purchase?
Cuz you kinda outed yer self before the CC company; way to get out in front of it!

It's 2022. I can self-identify as whatever I want.

 

[knuts]

So, I bought an upper from aero the other day. Took a look at my cc statement, there was a “on hold” fee of $1. I never saw that before. I checked again an hour later and the $1 fee was returned and the statement was gone from my account.
It has got to be this thing now since ive bought a bunch from aero before and never saw that.
I’m doing all cash thru my ffl from now on.

 

[Acer-m14]

EPIC! CC companies have until March to drop gun codes.. Or they are blocked from this State forever!​

Florida for the Win .. no Credit Cards allowed in Florida .. jump to 3 min mark .. or deal with the promos .. wish he would put that at the end
of the vids ..

 

[Steal2B]

 

[Dr. Evil]

Never liked AMEX. Never had the card and never accepted it in my office.

 

[Acer-m14]

AMEX .. i think that is American Express ..

they better change there name to China Express or NK-Express

 

[HIghlander]

Screw them, I buy a Walmart Visa Debit card ($4.95 to activate) and I do not register it with the card company , NO tracing.

 

[Acer-m14]

Screw them, I buy a Walmart Visa Debit card ($4.95 to activate) and I do not register it with the card company , NO tracing.

Some places only take cash to buy them type of cards too LOL ..

 

[Jmac00]

if CCP Xiden enacts his cripto/digital banking, all this will be a moot point.

 

[HIghlander]

Some places only take cash to buy them type of cards too LOL ..

That's the point, no CC transaction.