Restraining Order Granted for Houses of Worship

[Bigfoot]

FWIW. I would rather read an article than watch a video.

Like a newspaper vs news on TV. I prefer the newspaper.



Pull my finger, I dare you

 

[livingston]

Folks I posted above a link to the radio station WYSL. Palloma was on that pod cast .https://wysl.podbean.com/page/2/

Second Amendment Show 10-17-22​

I have attended meetings several times over the years where she was the speaker . She discussed our gun rights and the state doing its best to trample over them.
Now this last podcast I posted above she claimed that the rebuttal that the state gave was disorganized .... Paperwork thrown together in a hurry ... Also mentioned that Everytown is providing most of the leg work for this "discovery " on why churches have historically banned guns .
I find these tidbits interesting . ... Perhaps someone else will also.
Now folks she has also mentioned that they are looking for donations . There is a half dozen lawsuits against the state and it cost in some cases hundreds of thousands to bring them to court. ... One case involves gun shop owners to I believe to be heard in a few weeks.

 

[Acer-m14]

Now this last podcast I posted above she claimed that the rebuttal that the state gave was disorganized .... Paperwork thrown together in a hurry ... Also mentioned that Everytown is providing most of the leg work for this "discovery " on why churches have historically banned guns .

yeah back in like 1870's i think it was .. if you were a certain religion you could have guns .. but if you were that other religion you are banned ..

the 4 box diner had a video on this ..

im waiting for them to say look we had gun control laws when martin luther king was denied gun permit

 

[Jsmegs77]

On the video vs. text topic, I am partial to text as I can read much faster than it takes someone to speak. The content to a 5 minute video can be processed in seconds in text form.

Why on earth is a random uninvolved party (Everytown) “providing discovery”?! Are they now paid legal clerks in addition to being anti-constitutional activist shills?

 

[livingston]

On the video vs. text topic, I am partial to text as I can read much faster than it takes someone to speak. The content to a 5 minute video can be processed in seconds in text form.

Why on earth is a random uninvolved party (Everytown) “providing discovery”?! Are they now paid legal clerks in addition to being anti-constitutional activist shills?

As palloma said Everytown gets tens of millions of dollars every year to strip us of our gun rights. They are on the same page as the government anti gunners,.. Disarmament is the goal. So they throw 30-40 lawyers on this case to find something ... anything .... They need the government to strip us of our guns. This is not limited to this case. Almost every case that comes up they have a hand in if the truth were known.

 

[subsonic]

This wasn't stayed either. So this is a statewide order restraining the houses of worship restriction in effect for the past 4 days. As with the other case it may only restrain the named defendants so technically may not restrain other local law enforcement outside the case but it should basically lay out a defense for others in the state as well. Go ahead and carry in church!

 

[TJ12010]

Looks like it's permanent, unless the 2nd circuit decides to overturn.

 

[Phazer]

Looks like it's permanent, unless the 2nd circuit decides to overturn.

Only areas "in and around Buffalo?"

 

[TJ12010]

Only areas "in and around Buffalo?"

I don't know how it could be enforceable elsewhere in light of this ruling.

 

[Saltwater60]

Fantastic. More to come hopefully. Will the second circuit overturn in tomorrow?

 

[That_FNG]

HA! Suck on that you unelected tyrannically whore!

 

[Acer-m14]

Only areas "in and around Buffalo?"

so only buffalo churches and not all the others .. buffalo has special places

wont stand it covers all ..

 

[subsonic]

Looks like it's permanent, unless the 2nd circuit decides to overturn.

Link to news or a court document rather than some smug mug’s YouTube video?

 

[Jchrisls]

Judge Sinatra, doing what needs to be done regardless of the political climate he lives in.

He did it..

 

[Saltwater60]

Judge Sinatra, doing what needs to be done regardless of the political climate he lives in.

He did it..

He has balls. If you can read what he said in the first ruling it’s pretty funny and he blasts the state.

 

[TJ12010]

Link to news or a court document rather than some smug mug’s YouTube video?

Here we go again. You want more proof then go do the research.

 

[DoOver]

 

[Glock_USA]

I don't know how it could be enforceable elsewhere in light of this ruling.

Because it's just a district court ruling, not a circuit court or a Supreme Court. It only covers the district area. I'm not a lawyer but have been reading up a bunch on this stuff lately and that is my understanding.

 

[Glock_USA]

Link to news or a court document rather than some smug mug’s YouTube video?

Court document:
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nywd.142913/gov.uscourts.nywd.142913.52.0.pdf

 

[Acer-m14]

Link to news or a court document rather than some smug mug’s YouTube video?

maybe search who he is .. and see what all he writes before you call him some smug on UTube ..

 

[livingston]

Ground Breaking Supreme Court Decision Voids N.Y. Concealed Carry Restriction!!!​

In this video I discuss a major win coming out of New York where a federal court just found the states sensitive location ban unconstitutional using NYSRPA v. Bruen!

 

[pjzwtl]

IDK I was under the impression a circuit ruling is state wide unless it is specific to a region and mentioned in the ruling. But to be honest I don’t recall where I picked that up

 

[livingston]

IDK I was under the impression a circuit ruling is state wide unless it is specific to a region and mentioned in the ruling. But to be honest I don’t recall where I picked that up

For the folks that like to read
WHICH COURT IS BINDING?1

https://www.law.georgetown.edu/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Which-Court-is-Binding-HandoutFinal.pdf

 

[pjzwtl]

For the folks that like to read
WHICH COURT IS BINDING?1

https://www.law.georgetown.edu/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Which-Court-is-Binding-HandoutFinal.pdf

Interesting read so it would appear it has no actual binding authority rather just “Persuasive Authority”. What a cluster fuck

 

[subsonic]

Here we go again. You want more proof then go do the research.

Nope, I just didn't want to watch your stupid YouTube video. Thanks @Glock_USA for the link: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nywd.142913/gov.uscourts.nywd.142913.52.0.pdf

Also, this is a preliminary injunction, not a final order. Yes, it signals that the district court thinks the plaintiff will win, but it's still "preliminary" not to mention subject to appeal. Something I could confirm in 10 seconds of scanning the document versus watching your 10 minute self-promoting YouTuber's video. So your statement that this is "permanent" is factually incorrect. We already knew the district court had enjoined enforcement and that the state will appeal.

 

[TJ12010]

Nope, I just didn't want to watch your stupid YouTube video. Thanks @Glock_USA for the link: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nywd.142913/gov.uscourts.nywd.142913.52.0.pdf

Also, this is a preliminary injunction, not a final order. Yes, it signals that the district court thinks the plaintiff will win, but it's still "preliminary" not to mention subject to appeal. Something I could confirm in 10 seconds of scanning the document versus watching your 10 minute self-promoting YouTuber's video. So your statement that this is "permanent" is factually incorrect. We already knew the district court had enjoined enforcement and that the state will appeal.

If you don't want to watch my stupid YouTube video, simply don't click on it. I'm not here to spoon-feed you information. You sound like an entitled brat.