Ukraine - Russia Conflict (Original Title: Things are heating up in the Donbass)

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Drinkthekoolaid said:
Haven't seen it discussed here yet...

But apparently Liz Truss's phone was hacked. That's fairly public information and perhaps this is one of the reasons she abruptly resigned.

Of great importance is she is alleged to have texted Anthony blinken "it's done" within 1 minute of the pressure dropping on the Nord stream pipeline before any public acknowledgement.

www.tasnimnews.com

Moscow Wants Answers over Truss' Message to Blinken Moments after Nord Stream Blasts - Other Media news - Tasnim News Agency

TEHRAN (Tasnim) – Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova demanded answers regarding the mysterious “It’s done” iPhone message allegedly sent by UK’s then-prime minister Liz Truss to the US secretary of state moments after the sabotage attacks against the Nord Stream network.
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This story is picking up volume outside of western media. It's being totally ignored on western media. Take from that what you want
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Germany should be pissed off as well. To open the pipeline or not was their decision and they could use it as a bargaining chip. This was taken away from them by allies acting behind their back. This should be a WTF moment for Germany.
 
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Mosinitis said:
Germany should be pissed off as well. To open the pipeline or not was their decision and they could use it as a bargaining chip. This was taken away from them by allies acting behind their back. This should be a WTF moment for Germany.
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Absolutely. I've said earlier in this thread I think his will lead to the weakening and fracturing of NATO as some countries realize they don't have the same interests
 
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Ukrainian Armed Forces hit cluster of invaders in Radensk, Kherson Oblast General Staff report

Ukraine's Armed Forces struck a cluster of occupation forces in the village of Radensk in Kherson Oblast. Source: report of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine as of 18:00 Quote: "As a re...
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So I like to read stories and look at the pictures.

I know not all pictures are actually authentic to the story. Sometimes there is stock footage etc...

This has me very confused. I like details. Interesting that besides the rolled up Ukrainian flag is an IR American flag patch in between the stuffed bunny rabbit
 
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This war is good for the arms sales business and not just for the US:

swp.thedrive.com

An Iranian Ballistic Missile Storm Is On Ukraine’s Horizon

Ukraine has little defense against Russia's Iranian ballistic missiles, which could pummel the country's energy infrastructure as winter hits.
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www.forbes.com

South Korea Has Quietly Become One Of The World’s Biggest Weapons Suppliers

With Russia’s invasion of Ukraine coming on top of rising tensions over China's territorial claims in the South China Sea and Mideast dysfunction, it's a gold rush time for weapons makers. South Korea is cashing in after a decades-long drive to join the top ranks of global arms suppliers.
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Looks like too many nations have a vested interest in keeping this war going. Too bad for the ukrainians and russians that are dying as a result.
 
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No confirmation But Al jezeer is stateing the Russians have announced a withdraw from the western bank Of the Dniper river.

If the Russians push through ,The Ukraines could wipe out an entire army group if they blow the dam. If the Ukrainians attack the city of kershon and the Russians blow the dam , same deal . Stale mate.

 
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tirwin1 said:

Not looking good for Ivan.
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The thing is I have no idea who's version of events is more factual.

I think both sides are lying constantly.

They're both winning. They're both saying the other is going to use nukes or destroy the Dam or zaparitsia power plant etc.

Is this a strategic withdrawal to reposition to bait Ukraine in? Is it force protection so it's not cut off from a flood? Is Russia going to use a tactical nuke?

Is Ukraine really pushing the advance? Is Ukraine really genuinely winning? Is Russia really incompetent, under trained and running out of weapons and gear? Is Ukraine that good?



Frankly I have no idea and there's so much mis information I don't know what is really happening and more importantly why it's happening.



Seriously how do we know that Russia isn't baiting Ukraine in closer to form a bulge then this winter in a month or 2 when the ground is frozen and their logistics are caught up and prepared that Russia doesn't launch a massive armored counter offensive forming pincer movements to encircle the bulk of the Ukrainian army.



Who knows. Way smarter people than me can't figure this out.
 
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tirwin1 said:

Not looking good for Ivan.
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This is my kindergarten level photo editing from my phone.

This is essentially what I would do if I was a Russian commander. Withdraw from the left bank. Entice the Ukrainians to move the bulk of their forces in while I hold the right bank.

Then have all my supply lines staged and prepared for a winter offensive. Launch a large scale armor offensive down from kremenchuk or dnipo and swoop down to Odessa encircling and cutting off the Ukrainian forces in Kherson

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Thats so sweet. You can tell he feels strongly about Ukraine. Not enough to pick up a rifle and fight, but the gesture must make the Ukrainians feel real good Not as good as food or heat, but still Its a really nice thought for an attention whore

Hopefully other movie stars may follow his lead and send them their Oscars as support.
 
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holdover said:
Thats so sweet. You can tell he feels strongly about Ukraine. Not enough to pick up a rifle and fight, but the gesture must make the Ukrainians feel real good Not as good as food or heat, but still Its a really nice thought for an attention whore

Hopefully other movie stars may follow his lead and send them their Oscars as support.
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Yep! .Gov uses Hollywood and sports stars to brainwash the masses to support the agenda. Hey look! My favorite sports figure is supporting China!! OMG. I need to support the current thing too!
 
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holdover said:
Thats so sweet. You can tell he feels strongly about Ukraine. Not enough to pick up a rifle and fight, but the gesture must make the Ukrainians feel real good Not as good as food or heat, but still Its a really nice thought for an attention whore

Hopefully other movie stars may follow his lead and send them their Oscars as support.
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"Putin's done now, have you seen Zelensky's place, he's got so many Oscar's and Academy awards he's tripping over them. How can Putin possibly compete with that. He even has a couple Grammys"
 
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Drinkthekoolaid said:
The thing is I have no idea who's version of events is more factual.

I think both sides are lying constantly.

They're both winning. They're both saying the other is going to use nukes or destroy the Dam or zaparitsia power plant etc.

Is this a strategic withdrawal to reposition to bait Ukraine in? Is it force protection so it's not cut off from a flood? Is Russia going to use a tactical nuke?

Is Ukraine really pushing the advance? Is Ukraine really genuinely winning? Is Russia really incompetent, under trained and running out of weapons and gear? Is Ukraine that good?



Frankly I have no idea and there's so much mis information I don't know what is really happening and more importantly why it's happening.



Seriously how do we know that Russia isn't baiting Ukraine in closer to form a bulge then this winter in a month or 2 when the ground is frozen and their logistics are caught up and prepared that Russia doesn't launch a massive armored counter offensive forming pincer movements to encircle the bulk of the Ukrainian army.



Who knows. Way smarter people than me can't figure this out.
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If Russia was as militarily incompetent as they say, NATO would have gone in to defend Ukraine.

If you are a student of military history and battles, Russia's actions make perfect sense and have a well recorded history of success for many armies. Just look at a map of the battle space and it should become clear. Especially for those that have even some basic idea of infantry tactics and planning.

Bulge
natural terrain features
Tactical withdrawal (falling back after contact. Battle of the bulge for context in ww2)
targeting key area while falling back

Other recent events there include the removal of historic Russian statues. Remember that area is basically the birth place of Russia.

I don't see Ukraine rushing in to take control of the area but they will exploit the event as a victory

This is by no means over and it isn't looking good for Ukraine. 200k plus of Russian troops with almost another 200k in reserves.

Ukraine is begging for foreign fighters and I'm sure back channel discussion taking place.

Italy wants nothing to do with entry to war and France top general said as much about committing French troops.
 
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