Eminent domain happening right now in Kenmore, NY

[Saltwater60]

The government is forcing a thriving business out of its business space to expand a police station in Kenmore, NY. Now mind you Kenmore is a small village inside of the town of tonawanda and shouldn’t even have their own police to begin with. What’s funny is the offer is $365,000 and many local homes alone are likely selling for more than that. This imminent domain bullshit really gets me and is wrong. Why not expand up? They are borrowing millions to steal another guys property?? I just don’t get it.

Businesses object as Kenmore moves to use eminent domain for police expansion

"This is certainly not something we do as a first option," Clerk-Treasurer Kathleen Johnson said of pursuing eminent domain.

buffalonews.com

 

[Jmac00]

The government is forcing a thriving business out of its business space to expand a police station in Kenmore, NY. Now mind you Kenmore is a small village inside of the town of tonawanda and shouldn’t even have their own police to begin with. What’s funny is the offer is $365,000 and many local homes alone are likely selling for more than that. This imminent domain bullshit really gets me and is wrong. Why not expand up? They are borrowing millions to steal another guys property?? I just don’t get it.

Businesses object as Kenmore moves to use eminent domain for police expansion

"This is certainly not something we do as a first option," Clerk-Treasurer Kathleen Johnson said of pursuing eminent domain.

buffalonews.com

it just YOUR taxpayer money they are wasting why you so upset ¿¿ <---- ( symbol for sarcasm ) is the .gov going to pay for them to move too?

Oddly, when the .gov does these sorts of things, its to put up something that will increase the tax base, like condo's but expanding the police station make no sense. But I totally agree with you. This Emanate Domine thing is bullshit

 

[SomeSoldier]

Who'd did this business piss off? Did they not lock down? Did they not wear masks? Did they openly go against the vax?

 

[spat]

it just YOUR taxpayer money they are wasting why you so upset ¿¿ <---- ( symbol for sarcasm ) is the .gov going to pay for them to move too?

Oddly, when the .gov does these sorts of things, its to put up something that will increase the tax base, like condo's but expanding the police station make no sense. But I totally agree with you. This Emanate Domine thing is bullshit

If it's even necessary at all, it shouldn't be "full market value", it should be 10x market value.

If you are stealing someone's property (i.e. taking it without their consent) and you claim it's for the greater good, then it damn well better be a lot of greater good. Much more than the "fair market value" of the property at least.

 

[SomeSoldier]

If it's even necessary at all, it shouldn't be "full market value", it should be 10x market value.

If you are stealing someone's property livelihood (i.e. taking it without their consent) and you claim it's for the greater good, then it damn well better be a lot of greater good. Much more than the "fair market value" of the property at least.

Fixed it for you.

 

[Saltwater60]

Who'd did this business piss off? Did they not lock down? Did they not wear masks? Did they openly go against the vax?

It just happens to be the business next to the police station so they want to expand into that building next door. Of course it’s not practical to go up because the police need to be able to park in the property and not on the streets anymore.

 

[SomeSoldier]

It just happens to be the business next to the police station so they want to expand into that building next door. Of course it’s not practical to go up because the police need to be able to park in the property and not on the streets anymore.

How's does the song go? Paved over a successful business put up a parking lot.

 

[Saltwater60]

If it's even necessary at all, it shouldn't be "full market value", it should be 10x market value.

If you are stealing someone's property (i.e. taking it without their consent) and you claim it's for the greater good, then it damn well better be a lot of greater good. Much more than the "fair market value" of the property at least.

It’s not necessary at all. It’s about doing what the cheapest thing for the city and making the business put out more expenses. If $365,000 is the market price these days man real estate has really dropped. Also it’s not central and a police station should be central. Here is a map of Kenmore and the second one shows the business location they wish to steal. The business is 5,900 square feet and that’s roughly $62/square foot. Watch what they say my house is worth when they reassess. It’s also ina thriving business location on a street with good traffic flow. Then I found this that the average price/square foot is about $67 so maybe it’s not that far off, but still not right to force his hand. Still a loss of $35,000 for him.

 

[spat]

It’s not necessary at all. It’s about doing what the cheapest thing for the city and making the business put out more expenses. If $365,000 is the market price these days man real estate has really dropped. Also it’s not central and a police station should be central. Here is a map of Kenmore and the second one shows the business location they wish to steal. The business is 5,900 square feet and that’s roughly $62/square foot. Watch what they say my house is worth when they reassess. It’s also ina thriving business location on a street with good traffic flow. Then I found this that the average price/square foot is about $67 so maybe it’s not that far off, but still not right to force his hand. Still a loss of $35,000 for him.

They should have to buy the business, not the property.

I am sure the business is worth far more.

That's like buying someone's house but only paying for the land because you're going to bulldoze the house anyway.

 

[Jmac00]

It just happens to be the business next to the police station so they want to expand into that building next door. Of course it’s not practical to go up because the police need to be able to park in the property and not on the streets anymore.

if it was a doughnut shop, they wouldn't touch it

 

[Depick]

Sounds like somebody on the kenmore board or in their family is starting a printing shop.

 

[prambo]

Another example of the depth and breadth to which corruption has penetrated in the fUSA.

Someone is making a bundle of $$$ on this bullshit, you can be sure of that. And it won't be deposited in the local S&L...Caymans or Channel Islands.

When the "elites" have stolen everything, starved everyone, pissed everyone off, vaxxed people to death, started more unnecessary wars, etc, which may lead to nuclear holocaust...what will they survive on?

They really haven't thought through their bizarre beliefs to the obvious result.

Any society in which an obvious socio/psychopath like Klaus Schwab even exists, signals that the bottom of the abyss is near.

 

[Deplorable Me]

The appraised value of the real estate is one thing. The valuation of relocating the business is another. Then there's the long term affect of relocating that business and establishing itself at a new suitable location.

Fucking land pirates.

 

[spat]

The appraised value of the real estate is one thing. The valuation of relocating the business is another. Then there's the long term affect of relocating that business and establishing itself at a new suitable location.

Fucking land pirates.

Nope, they should have to buy the whole business. Lock stock and barrel. If he chooses to use that seed money to open a new one, that's his business. But it should be enough for him to just retire on if he chooses that route too.

If they don't want to spend that much money, then I guess they didn't need that property all that bad.

 

[TEOTWAWKI inc.]

I would have my spouse, anonymously through an attorney, make an insane fucking offer to buy my business. Like 10x GDP.

Fuck your fair market value.

 

[Truebeliever]

Fair market value is the standard. The question is , what is the actual fair market value and cost. A business property next to a police station might be worth more than a general property in the area. Just small things can raise a value more than the average in the area.
This is no different than a house of business located where the government might want to build a road.
The legal argument is the amount rather than can they do it and the business owner can get money for more than the actual value of the land or just the building. Some things can’t be moved without destroying them, they can get money . They can sue or negotiate for the cost of the business being “ down” for the move.
It’s often not cut and dry as it might seem.

 

[Saltwater60]

I would have my spouse, anonymously through an attorney, make an insane fucking offer to buy my business. Like 10x GDP.

Fuck your fair market value.

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I don’t think that would impact anything since it’s not for sale and the process has already started. I’m sure there is a clause that he can’t sell it to anyone else. I’m not far from this guy and I’m thinking of going there with a sign saying don’t steal his property.

 

[Saltwater60]

Fair market value is the standard. The question is , what is the actual fair market value and cost. A business property next to a police station might be worth more than a general property in the area. Just small things can raise a value more than the average in the area.
This is no different than a house of business located where the government might want to build a road.
The legal argument is the amount rather than can they do it and the business owner can get money for more than the actual value of the land or just the building. Some things can’t be moved without destroying them, they can get money . They can sue or negotiate for the cost of the business being “ down” for the move.
It’s often not cut and dry as it might seem.

It is also next to a dry cleaners and they work together to share parking and driveways. This will also impact the dry cleaner. They work together and their businesses make sense to be next door to each other. I know you’re not from this area but Elmwood is like 5th avenue in NYC and is kind of a famous street in north Buffalo. His shop is a bit north of that famous area, but it’s still a heavily trafficked very desirable location for a business.

There is also an insty-print location in Buffalo so just south of his location and there is a place like this on Grand Island just north of his location. A lot of his business is likely from local offices, businesses, and local residents. If he moves much in any direction he may not be able to even have a business.

 

[Truebeliever]

It is also next to a dry cleaners and they work together to share parking and driveways. This will also impact the dry cleaner. They work together and their businesses make sense to be next door to each other. I know you’re not from this area but Elmwood is like 5th avenue in NYC and is kind of a famous street in north Buffalo. His shop is a bit north of that famous area, but it’s still a heavily trafficked very desirable location for a business.

There is also an insty-print location in Buffalo so just south of his location and there is a place like this on Grand Island just north of his location. A lot of his business is likely from local offices, businesses, and local residents. If he moves much in any direction he may not be able to even have a business.

This is why he needs a lawyer who specializes in this area of law. The village undervalued the property and probably did do in its cost analysis. If his lawyer can drive the fair market value price enough, the village might be forced to go to a plan B

 

[togmaster]

Eminent dipshit, EMINENT.

 

[TEOTWAWKI inc.]

A guy has been offering me more than double what I paid for my house. Guess what - That is now the fair market value.

The business in the OP should move to Braddock, PA. Looks like a well managed town.

 

[GOPerfect]

As @Saltwater60 stated in his OP, The Village Of Kenmore is very small. No police department is even needed. The Village of Kenmore is part of the Town of Tonawanda. The Town has a very good Police department. Fully staffed, good lock up areas and everything that the Village department is looking for. The Town police headquarters is located only a few miles down the road from the Village building.

This is insane, and not at all needed. More wasted monies and yet another reason to get the fuck out of this area.

 

[GOPerfect]

As @Saltwater60 stated in his OP, The Village Of Kenmore is very small. No police department is even needed. The Village of Kenmore is part of the Town of Tonawanda. The Town has a very good Police department. Fully staffed, good lock up areas and everything that the Village department is looking for. The Town police headquarters is located only a few miles down the road from the Village building.

This is insane, and not at all needed. More wasted monies and yet another reason to get the fuck out of this area.

 

[Saltwater60]

As @Saltwater60 stated in his OP, The Village Of Kenmore is very small. No police department is even needed. The Village of Kenmore is part of the Town of Tonawanda. The Town has a very good Police department. Fully staffed, good lock up areas and everything that the Village department is looking for. The Town police headquarters is located only a few miles down the road from the Village building.

This is insane, and not at all needed. More wasted monies and yet another reason to get the fuck out of this area.

Good point. They could just use the TOT police station. The TOT envelops the entirety of kenmore so there is that as well. I find this absurd as you mentioned as well.

 

[Grimscale]

Follow the money.

Who is going to get the contract to expand the police station?

who do these particular police officers protect?

 

[Cavalry]

The day before I was evicted I would fill the building full of used tires especially big ones like for tractors and loaders. I would then go around to all the local factories and ask about any chemicals or waste product that is expensive to dispose of and take it all, maybe some water contaminated waste oil as well. That looks like a big building, I bet you could put a couple hundred IBC totes of unlabeled chemicals in there. Finally, I would walk around the exterior of the building with a chain saw and cut every stud so its so structurally unsound that they would have to take it apart piece by piece from the outside as not to risk rupturing a tote.
Go ahead bill me for the cleanup.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

:angry welding noises, hear squeaky treads moving:

 

[TEOTWAWKI inc.]

The more they push, the more ways we need to find to push back.

 

[TEOTWAWKI inc.]

The day before I was evicted I would fill the building full of used tires especially big ones like for tractors and loaders. I would then go around to all the local factories and ask about any chemicals or waste product that is expensive to dispose of and take it all, maybe some water contaminated waste oil as well. That looks like a big building, I bet you could put a couple hundred IBC totes of unlabeled chemicals in there. Finally, I would walk around the exterior of the building with a chain saw and cut every stud so its so structurally unsound that they would have to take it apart piece by piece from the outside as not to risk rupturing a tote.
Go ahead bill me for the cleanup.

'Fluorescent Bulb Collection Site' too, but I would store them in the totes prior to filling with unlabeled chemicals.

Is asbestos still available somewhere?

Moving some endangered flora and fauna on to the site would be a nice touch as well.

 

[repete]

Is asbestos still available somewhere?

I might have some if you want it.