Traveler From Texas to Maine Had Unregistered Handguns in Kent

[Trauma47645]

so an individual has to right to transport or sell their lawfully owned firearms to a lawfully licensed FFL..

you want to have an honest conversation.. Your the one that went down this path by stating "Not even close to similar!"

lets see where she is not covered by FOPA in your OPINION..

 

[Eddie Gunks]

But, none of this would have happened if the gun store did not suck balls!

^^^^^^^
Yeah yeah yeah!

 

[GOPerfect]

Under FOPA, notwithstanding any state or local law, a person is entitled to transport a firearm from any place where he or she may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he or she may lawfully possess and carry it.

She is not lawfully allowed to carry in NY State.


In most states, firearms may be transported legally if they are unloaded, cased, and locked in the automobile trunk or otherwise inaccessible to the driver or any passenger.

If she had access to them, she was not in compliance.


Once you reach your destination, state and local law will govern the ownership, possession, and transportation of your firearms.

Again, she is not, by NY State law, allowed to have a pistol in NY.

It goes on and on.


Seriously, does anyone actually read these laws and rules?

 

[Eddie Gunks]

Seriously, does anyone actually read these laws and rules?

Ha ha ha.

Fuck no! That would not make any sense at all!

Again, if she came in the my shop I would've suggested that she locked them in the trunk and continued on her way.

I would've explained to her that she was in New YorkiStan and she should be very careful or she could lose her freedoms.

I am sure friendly advice would've gone a long way.

 

[Trauma47645]

So you are denying her right to sell a lawfully owned pistol to a lawfully licensed FFL..

and you must have been the JBT that arrested her, since you are affirming that she was "carrying" the pistols.. because as far as the rest of us know they were in a locked case in her trunk..

Which would have been in compliance..

She was attempting to legally transfer the firearm to a legal FFL.. There is no law stating this is illegal because if it was then common carriers and contract carriers would be in violation of NY's unconstitutional edicts every time they accept a package containing a firearm without undergoing a NICS check..

 

[Trauma47645]

Ha ha ha.

Fuck no! That would not make any sense at all!

Again, if she came in the my shop I would've suggested that she locked them in the trunk and continued on her way.

I would've explained to her that she was in New YorkiStan and she should be very careful or she could lose her freedoms.

I am sure friendly advice would've gone a long way.

This is the big difference between a true 2A friendly shop, and one that licks the boot of the state..

 

[Eddie Gunks]

There is no law stating this is illegal because if it was then common carriers and contract carriers would be in violation of NY's unconstitutional edicts every time they accept a package containing a firearm without undergoing a NICS check..

The carriers are not transferring a firearm by the definition. That's why they don't need a NICS check. They are just transporting it. They have not assumed ownership.

 

[GOPerfect]

I am done with this conversation. Too many ignorant fools today.

Learn the fucking laws. Apparently she did not. As per NY, she was not LEGALLY transferring firearms. The key to this amazing puzzle, NY Laws trump yours and mine common sense approach.

The JBT thing is really old and foolish. Grow up.

 

[Celt]

...

 

[GOYABEAN]

Come on what better excuse to have @Gunner57 bring out the ring girls

 

[GOPerfect]

C'mon, what you typed was good. How come you erased?

...

 

[Eddie Gunks]

C'mon, what you typed was good. How come you erased?

Damn! I missed it

Ps. WTF? I thought you were done......

 

[Trauma47645]

I am done with this conversation. Too many ignorant fools today.

Learn the fucking laws. Apparently she did not. As per NY, she was not LEGALLY transferring firearms. The key to this amazing puzzle, NY Laws trump yours and mine common sense approach.

The JBT thing is really old and foolish. Grow up.

what part of the transfer was not legal..
you know since apparently you are a lawyer that specializes in firearm law?

 

[GOPerfect]

what part of the transfer was not legal..
you know since apparently you are a lawyer that specializes in firearm law?

In order to transfer a pistol, face to face, in NY, one would need a pistol permit in order to possess said handgun. She does not have a PP in NY so therefore she is not LEGALLY allowed to possess said gun.

If she cannot legally possess it, she can not do a face to face transfer of gun!

Look, none of us like these laws, that does not change the FACT that they are indeed the laws of the State. Obey them or face the wrath that the State has put forth.

 

[Trauma47645]

In order to transfer a pistol, face to face, in NY, one would need a pistol permit in order to possess said handgun. She does not have a PP in NY so therefore she is not LEGALLY allowed to possess said gun.

If she cannot legally possess it, she can not do a face to face transfer of gun!

Look, none of us like these laws, that does not change the FACT that they are indeed the laws of the State. Obey them or face the wrath that the State has put forth.

She is not doing a face to face transfer.. she is selling a pistol to an legal FFL..

State law does not state that you need a pistol permit to sell a pistol to an FFL..

try again sparky

 

[GOPerfect]

And BTW, I am not a lawyer, I just know how to read and look shit up on Google. Should try it someday, pretty easy to do.




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[Trauma47645]

And BTW, I am not a lawyer, I just know how to read and look shit up on Google. Should try it someday, pretty easy to do.




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   Go to the Google homepage and type your search. Formatting your search in different ways will affect the results that you receive. Try to keep your search terms simple to get the best results. Search using the important words, and leave out the question. The “I'm Feeling Lucky” button will take you directly to the first search result.
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Nothing that you just posted has any relevance to the subject at hand..

great attempt at moving off topic though... I give you credit for that..

 

[GOPerfect]

She is not doing a face to face transfer.. she is selling a pistol to an legal FFL..

State law does not state that you need a pistol permit to sell a pistol to an FFL..

try again sparky

What? She is in fact doing a Face to Face. She walked into an FFL with gun in hand and basically said "Hey, how about we trade, I got this gun and I need cash". What type of transfer would you call that?

State law says a PP is needed to possess a pistol in NY. If she cannot legally possess it, how can she take it into a freaken store to do a transfer?

You are really Short bus Special!

 

[GOPerfect]

I have no reason to move off topic, next to nothing you have typed is correct. It read like the Babbling of a small child. I was attempting to teach you how to do a Google search so you could actually learn something prior to spewing this garbage that you insist on doing.

 

[Trauma47645]

Selling a firearm to an FFL is not considered a face to face transfer.

wow NY really has indoctrinated you..

 

[Trauma47645]

just because you spout some bullshit off and wave your badge around does not mean it is true..

 

[GOPerfect]

Well, I would love to continue this dribble but I must put on my Jack Boots and go to work.

 

[Trauma47645]

atleast you admit it..

that is the first step to recovery..

 

[GOPerfect]

just because you spout some bullshit off and wave your badge around does not mean it is true..

First, the only time I wave my badge is to get out of tickets and purchase my AR's, never here. Everything that I have posted, you could have also posted. Granted, if that were to have happened, it would have been a first for you'; posting actual, factual information.

 

[Trauma47645]

First, the only time I wave my badge is to get out of tickets and purchase my AR's, never here. Everything that I have posted, you could have also posted. Granted, if that were to have happened, it would have been a first for you'; posting actual, factual information.

yup there is the superiority complex coming out..

 

[spat]

Is this the cops fault or the fault of the gun store who took it upon himself to rat her out? You really think once summoned via a LOGGED and RECORDED 911 call that the cop has any room to do what the gun store should have done?

All he had to do was hand her an extra gun lock and plasric box and send her on her way. Instead he called the cops.

Both.

The only way the gun shops action was reasonable is if they thought it was stolen (and i have seen no suggestion that that was the case).

Once called, the cop had to "look" for her, I will give you that. But they are under no obligation to actually find her.

 

[GOPerfect]

Wow, the envy is strong in this little one. You wan a little banner under your name as well?

 

[GOPerfect]

Both.

The only way the gun shops action was reasonable is if they thought it was stolen (and i have seen no suggestion that that was the case).

Once called, the cop had to "look" for her, I will give you that. But they are under no obligation to actually find her.

And if they do find her, they could artuculate the errors that the douche bag employee made and have her go on her way.

 

[GOPerfect]

Spat and I are in agreement? Wow, been a while!

 

[Eddie Gunks]

Wow, the envy is strong in this little one. You wan a little banner under your name as well?

I want a banner under my name!
I want mine to say "asshole"