Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)
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JunkBoxFull
.308 Win
We are involved in the worlds longest running tennis match. They are the racket, we are the ball. Get use to it, it ain`t going away very soon.
arp228
.38 Special
GOA's response to NYS opposition on the Supreme Court lifting the 2nd Circuit's stay. They took out the sledgehammer. Beautiful.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/Docket...0105103816229_SCOTUS reply complete FINAL.pdf
https://www.supremecourt.gov/Docket...0105103816229_SCOTUS reply complete FINAL.pdf
If the SC makes a clear and concise ruling explicitly stating X,Y and Z are protected then I am going to exercise those rights despite anything NY decides to do. At some point we need to say no more. We are like the abuse victims that won't leave their abuser.
ManualF150
.308 Win
Some can't leave their abuser, unfortunately, so they are put into something like this...
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Making our records public puts us in harms way and provides criminals a list of houses to hit to get guns so this case is vastly different. Yes it’s good she ruled in our favor in the past but I don’t remember that ruling being appealed as this one will be if we win. We will lose it on appeal at the second circuit court I would think.
CaliberPlus
.45 acp
That picture is haunting. I do not believe in eternal tourment but something like that almost makes me wish for it. Just a young girl.
The evil abounding right now is similar.
The evil abounding right now is similar.
camper4lyfe
.308 Win
It blows my mind how quickly these attorneys can put together a response. I mean, I'm sure they have the framework set up ahead of time knowing they'll have to respond, but to read and digest the 40+ page state response and come back with a 20+ page response to that in ~24 hours is impressive.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
They have a team of attorneys and legal assistants. They take it piece by piece and tackle it.
camper4lyfe
.308 Win
It would be interesting (though probably somewhat boring) to see the behind the scenes on how all this stuff works. Kind of a fly on the wall scenario watching how it's all orchestrated.
But if you think about it, it's quite an accomplishment to put together a writeup that is so seamless. I remember how much of a headache it was in college compiling papers for a group project and keeping it sounding like it came from one source.
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
Supreme Court & the NY Gun Carry Law
Judge Napolitano -
maverick52
.223 Rem
GOA
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Moreover, it is worth noting that “percolation” of Second Amendment jurisprudence both prior to Heller (with most courts concluding the Second Amendment did not protect an individual right) and after Heller (with most courts applying prohibited judicial interest-balancing) did not advance jurisprudence in this area, but instead created mountains of unprincipled and atextual precedents that this Court was required to cast aside.
Nor are Applicants asking the Court to decide the merits of their challenge to the CCIA, but merely to vacate a reflexive, unexplained, and improvidently granted stay of a well-reasoned district court injunction. Should the Court grant the relief Applicants seek, this in no way would short-circuit or otherwise preclude the inevitable “percolation” in the lower courts, including resolution of this case by the Second Circuit.”
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Moreover, it is worth noting that “percolation” of Second Amendment jurisprudence both prior to Heller (with most courts concluding the Second Amendment did not protect an individual right) and after Heller (with most courts applying prohibited judicial interest-balancing) did not advance jurisprudence in this area, but instead created mountains of unprincipled and atextual precedents that this Court was required to cast aside.
Nor are Applicants asking the Court to decide the merits of their challenge to the CCIA, but merely to vacate a reflexive, unexplained, and improvidently granted stay of a well-reasoned district court injunction. Should the Court grant the relief Applicants seek, this in no way would short-circuit or otherwise preclude the inevitable “percolation” in the lower courts, including resolution of this case by the Second Circuit.”
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
just a legal explanation on whats going on now ...
Constitutional Attorney Reviews New York's legal brief submitted to the U.S. Supreme Court on the emergency application in the Antonyuk v. Nigrelli case. In a Second Amendment challenge to New York's Concealed Carry Improvement Act, the US Supreme Court is being asked to decide whether to vacate an administrative stay put into place by the Second Circuit Court of Appeals based in New York City. The State of New York was required to submit a legal brief explaining their conduct in the lower courts and with their law which they have now done. The Four Boxer‘s Diner has reviewed their brief and has the following observations to make about what New York has to say in justifying their gun control laws enacted after NYSRPA v. Bruen.
----------------- TIMESTAMPS -----------------
0:00 IMPORTANT NEWS
0:58 Differences vs Bruen
3:52 Case Details
9:02 Two Main Arguments
12:42 Arguments on the Merits
15:13 Sensitive Places
17:43 New York is Scared
20:00 Thank You!
Constitutional Attorney Reviews New York's legal brief submitted to the U.S. Supreme Court on the emergency application in the Antonyuk v. Nigrelli case. In a Second Amendment challenge to New York's Concealed Carry Improvement Act, the US Supreme Court is being asked to decide whether to vacate an administrative stay put into place by the Second Circuit Court of Appeals based in New York City. The State of New York was required to submit a legal brief explaining their conduct in the lower courts and with their law which they have now done. The Four Boxer‘s Diner has reviewed their brief and has the following observations to make about what New York has to say in justifying their gun control laws enacted after NYSRPA v. Bruen.
----------------- TIMESTAMPS -----------------
0:00 IMPORTANT NEWS
0:58 Differences vs Bruen
3:52 Case Details
9:02 Two Main Arguments
12:42 Arguments on the Merits
15:13 Sensitive Places
17:43 New York is Scared
20:00 Thank You!
JunkBoxFull
.308 Win
maverick52
.223 Rem
Why is this video labeled private?
JunkBoxFull
.308 Win
I`m not sure what happened there. I see it now says private. It didn`t when i posted it. Could try to see if it will play over on youtube. (?)
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
just takes you to your normal you tube page .. not your vid
like going to youtube . com ..
JunkBoxFull
.308 Win
I just went to Jared`s (GNG) youtube channel, it looks like they pulled it down. I`ll holler to him and see what happened. Maybe youtube doesn`t want this kind of news getting out. Anti-Unamericans do alot of that lately.
JunkBoxFull
.308 Win
Yup, i tried it. Youtube pulled the video.
Uninformed and Compliant
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Did it have anything of merit to say in 10 seconds or less? Or was it 9 minutes of drawn out conjecture and "could be" and "HUGE BOMBSHELL TOMORROW".
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
I’m sure it says how good things are coming….
JunkBoxFull
.308 Win
Jared said the bumpie stuck ban was ruled unconstitutional today. They hope it doesn`t get appealed. If it does, it will go straight to the SCOTUS to be ruled the same, unconstitutional. Its anybody`s guess what will happen now. If it DOES end up at the SCOTUS, and agreed that it was unconstitutional, my bet is, they will also rule on any gun related parts, like the mag bans, the pistol braces, etc etc etc. And that`s NOT what the USAG wants to happen. Of course, this is all just my own opinion what could or might happen.
JunkBoxFull
.308 Win
Yeah, sure seems that way. This could spell very bad news for the anti groups as a whole.
JunkBoxFull
.308 Win
I`m not a fan of this guy, but it says similar things to Jared`s (GNG) video.
JunkBoxFull
.308 Win
Not sure if this will post or not, but i`ll try it anyway. Its 61 pages on the ruling that Jared (GNG) posted in his video description.
I tried the link, it took me to the video Jared (GNG) posted. Apparently it was a live stream.
www.youtube.com
I tried the link, it took me to the video Jared (GNG) posted. Apparently it was a live stream.
YouTube
www.youtube.com
ManualF150
.308 Win
Not sure if this will post or not, but i`ll try it anyway. Its 61 pages on the ruling that Jared (GNG) posted in his video description.
YouTube
JunkBoxFull
.308 Win
JunkBoxFull
.308 Win
Thanks manualF150. I tried to get the link in here, but it kept going directly to the video on my end.
Nope. SCOTUS can not make rulings on items not before them. If this is appealed and SCOTUS takes the case, they can rule on bump stocks, and nothing else. Forced reset triggers, magazine capacity, Hello Kitty pictures on the receiver, none of that could be ruled on. Those are seperate cases.
JunkBoxFull
.308 Win
I`m no expert here. It would set a precedence, yes/no?