Semi auto permit/amendment

[seezur]

Went down to the Livingston county clerks a few weeks back to add a pistol. They informed me I would need a new picture and card for my pistol permit as they are going to be putting the pistols on the actual license, and not a piece of paper anymore.

Anyways, lady asked if I wanted the semi auto rifle amendment added. Costs nothing if you’re getting a new card, and supposedly they aren’t keeping a list of rifles you buy. She told me without it I can’t even touch a semi auto rifle in NY. I asked her what if someone already owned one and she told me it would be a “grey area”…..

Anyways, are there any downside to adding it? I suppose they would know or could suspect you might have semi auto rifles if you have the amendment, whereas they don’t know otherwise. That’s the only downside I can think of.

 

[thughes]

I asked her what if someone already owned one and she told me it would be a “grey area”…..

 

[Zerex]

Cost me $35 in Oneida County. They issued a new permit card with no more pistol carry restrictions and a semi auto amendment on the same line.

That clerk who said you cannot even touch a semi is just batty...that pertains only to pistols.
Paper license? Wow those went away long ago, before the first pistol certification and certainly by now past the 2nd pistol recertification.

I know others with paper licenses who have no clue about any of it, and they still have their pistols.......some of the 68,000 in my county that have not recertified their permits...the dead, moved and unaware, still have permits listed.

 

[kev74]

Mine cost an extra $5 when I got my last amendment.

The person at the window at your pistol permit office is ignorant of the law.

 

[togmaster]

No gray area at all. Tell her to actually read the law instead of spewing bullshit her boss tells her to do.

 

[Saltwater60]

I asked her what if someone already owned one and she told me it would be a “grey area”…..

She has no grey matter in her brain. She’s wrong. You can’t get a new semi auto rifle to you that’s all.
when they ban them they will come to your house first to confiscate them. I’m avoiding it.

 

[camper4lyfe]

Went down to the Livingston county clerks a few weeks back to add a pistol. They informed me I would need a new picture and card for my pistol permit as they are going to be putting the pistols on the actual license, and not a piece of paper anymore.

Anyways, lady asked if I wanted the semi auto rifle amendment added. Costs nothing if you’re getting a new card, and supposedly they aren’t keeping a list of rifles you buy. She told me without it I can’t even touch a semi auto rifle in NY. I asked her what if someone already owned one and she told me it would be a “grey area”…..

Anyways, are there any downside to adding it? I suppose they would know or could suspect you might have semi auto rifles if you have the amendment, whereas they don’t know otherwise. That’s the only downside I can think of.

The Livingston County clerk is pretty decent. I've emailed her with questions a few times, and every time, I've gotten a response within about 15 minutes.

As far as needing the smi-auto permit to own a rifle, that's wrong. There's no grey area involved. The permit is ONYL to take possession, NOT to own.

I'd absolutely add the SA to your permit. I'm jealous you have that ability.

 

[seezur]

Hmm yeah I’m not worried about the “grey area”, everything I’ve read suggests permit only pertains to new semis, of which I have no interest or need. Maybe I’ll hold off until I see something I want. There are only a dozen semi rifles tops, some of which you can’t even find anymore (that are NY legal anyways without bastardizing them). Idk, maybe it’s just paranoia, but I hate to tell NY anything I don’t expressly have to.

 

[Saltwater60]

Hmm yeah I’m not worried about the “grey area”, everything I’ve read suggests permit only pertains to new semis, of which I have no interest or need. Maybe I’ll hold off until I see something I want. There are only a dozen semi rifles tops, some of which you can’t even find anymore (that are NY legal anyways without bastardizing them). Idk, maybe it’s just paranoia, but I hate to tell NY anything I don’t expressly have to.

I’m of the same mindset and I’m not doing mine either. I don’t trust them and I think soon they will make you start listing them and as we’ve seen TRO’s do not get granted so your list will need to be done and then the SC will overturn it but too late as they will have it.
My only concern is at some point I think they will make you have the 16+2 training to obtain it. My county is making you have the training for a premise permit as well.

 

[Acer-m14]

when are you going back ..

please .. ask her how much is a voting permit is or a free speech permit is .. and what training is needed for them ..

 

[Willyone]

I’m of the same mindset and I’m not doing mine either. I don’t trust them and I think soon they will make you start listing them and as we’ve seen TRO’s do not get granted so your list will need to be done and then the SC will overturn it but too late as they will have it.
My only concern is at some point I think they will make you have the 16+2 training to obtain it. My county is making you have the training for a premise permit as well.

Same here. NYS doesn't trust me, so why would or should I trust NYS. No reason to tell them anything that isn't absolutely required.

 

[Saltwater60]

Same here. NYS doesn't trust me, so why would or should I trust NYS. No reason to tell them anything that isn't absolutely required.

If you have that endorsement you’re the first houses they will come to when they ban them and make no mistake they are working really hard right now to ban them.
The only semi auto rifle that I have bought is one .22 rifles and it’s my sons anyway.

 

[Depick]

If you have that endorsement you’re the first houses they will come to when they ban them and make no mistake they are working really hard right now to ban them.
The only semi auto rifle that I have bought is one .22 rifles and it’s my sons anyway.

Endorsement or not they know.

 

[Willyone]

If you have that endorsement you’re the first houses they will come to when they ban them and make no mistake they are working really hard right now to ban them.
The only semi auto rifle that I have bought is one .22 rifles and it’s my sons anyway.

My only semi auto rifle is a Model 64b Lakefield .22 that I bought pre-loved, I believe in the early '80s. It's my only "Assault Rifle"

 

[Beerman]

I got the semi-auto endorsement when I got my pistol license in Oct. Clerk just put it on there for me before I even got to ask about it. She said she knew I wanted it. She was right. I’d also like an FFL if she’s still feeling generous.

 

[CaliberPlus]

You need an endorsement to buy a semi-auto rifle. Want a 10-22, better have a handgun permit with an endorsement. If you own any, you are grandfathered as per the law. Yes, crap law but it is there, for now. When they really get going it will be a seperate license.

Actually, the way the counties are doing an endorsement is kind of a middle finger to the state. I think the ptb thought semi sales would go away until the new license was available.

When these crap laws passed I posted the laws by numbers. If you need a cardiovascular workout without moving, read the laws.

I have sent people to Jefferson County to get a handgun listed and if they went with a paper license they came back wth it. I can think of three in particular, one had her license issued early 70's and it was not updated when she went last time. I have two older guys that have added handguns, same permit, green papaer with an old photo and lots of ink. Actually about ready to fall apart.

 

[Acer-m14]

2 black guys just did a smash n grab a few days ago here at the LGS .. took 2 pistols .. no NYS PP and never did a 4473 ..

one of the guy tried loading a 9mm pistol with a 380 round he found .. and found out it didn't work as a round from a working

gun went off and wizzed by him and hit a car ..

so tell me what gun laws actually work ???

if you can't then there all null n void ..

 

[kev74]

My only semi auto rifle is a Model 64b Lakefield .22 that I bought pre-loved, I believe in the early '80s. It's my only "Assault Rifle"

And now our purple tie overlords know about it.

 

[Uninformed and Compliant]

Went down to the Livingston county clerks a few weeks back to add a pistol. They informed me I would need a new picture and card for my pistol permit as they are going to be putting the pistols on the actual license, and not a piece of paper anymore.

Anyways, lady asked if I wanted the semi auto rifle amendment added. Costs nothing if you’re getting a new card, and supposedly they aren’t keeping a list of rifles you buy. She told me without it I can’t even touch a semi auto rifle in NY. I asked her what if someone already owned one and she told me it would be a “grey area”…..

Anyways, are there any downside to adding it? I suppose they would know or could suspect you might have semi auto rifles if you have the amendment, whereas they don’t know otherwise. That’s the only downside I can think of.

Who buys rifles anymore?

 

[Darth]

I got it when I got my 2nd to last pistol added.

$0 fee.

 

[Saltwater60]

Endorsement or not they know.

I agree but it’s harder and more work. They will come for you first with your endorsement.

 

[Depick]

I agree but it’s harder and more work. They will come for you first with your endorsement.

Probably.

 

[PA Guns & Ammo]

I agree but it’s harder and more work. They will come for you first with your endorsement.

Really? All of you handguns are registered with the government. What difference does it make if you have the semi-auto endorsement? Under the Safe Act, when they revoke your pistol permit, you lose all of your long guns too. Point being they already know you have guns and they will take everything while they are at your home. So if you are worried about them knowing what you have, you should have never have gotten a pistol permit.

 

[Saltwater60]

Really? All of you handguns are registered with the government. What difference does it make if you have the semi-auto endorsement? Under the Safe Act, when they revoke your pistol permit, you lose all of your long guns too. Point being they already know you have guns and they will take everything while they are at your home. So if you are worried about them knowing what you have, you should have never have gotten a pistol permit.

They aren’t talking about banning handguns right now but they certainly are about semi auto rifles. I have what I need and have no more planned so I don’t see the need to get it anyway. It may get overturned at some point so I will sit and wait.

 

[Apeman]

I agree but it’s harder and more work. They will come for you first with your endorsement.

No. The first houses hit will be anyone that registered an "assault weapon"

 

[kev74]

Maybe they'll come for extremists who post on the interwebs first.

 

[Acer-m14]

They want to ban weapons of war .. the AR15 .. when was it in a war ?? LMAO

 

[Saltwater60]

No. The first houses hit will be anyone that registered an "assault weapon"

I don’t have that either. Anyone that registered one is a moron and all should have been modified to be come legal or whatever else they wanted to do ie sell them out of state, move them out of state ect.

 

[Saltwater60]

They want to ban weapons of war .. the AR15 .. when was it in a war ?? LMAO

It’s a lie for stupid people to believe that these guns are used in wars. It seems to be working so they are winning at least in numbers.

 

[2WheelGnnr]

It’s a lie for stupid people to believe that these guns are used in wars. It seems to be working so they are winning at least in numbers.