the problem with my jam'n 45-70, If you remember my post from last year?

[Jmac00]

So I took my 45-70, that seemed to jam up a lot, to Van Tassel's gunsmith shop last Tuesday. I dropped it off and asked the gunsmith (Dennis) if he could fix it.

He immediately told me, "if it needs parts, you're basically SOL, there aren't any parts to be had"

So I said, "when you get around to it, do what you can, I love the gun but, IDK what to do if you can't fix it"

So Dennis called today and said "it's all fixed, the problem with your gun IS YOU!!!! I was like "what?"

He said "stop babying this thing, get angry at it, and rack it like you mean it. I suspect you're racking the lever like you want to catch the shells. stop doing that and pump the lever like you mean it" I ran 3 rounds through with no problem, and you owe me $15"

I said , ok then. I went there and Dennis wasn't there but Mary was, and a very nice young lady at the counter. I asked if they knew dsdmmat, ( I used his real name) and of course, Mary knew who I was talking about. And she asked how I knew him. I said "he's a moderator of NYgun forum, I have been posting for years, but only, physically met a few people from the forum." She smiled and said he should be coming back for Memorial Day"

So big guy, DSDMMAT, the Van Tassel's are looking forward to seeing you. and I told Mary and the nice lady behind the counter that "Im now going to go back to the cabin, put on my big boy panties and make this gun work" they both seem to get a chuckle out of that.

and guess what, Dennis was right. slam that lever hard, and the gun works just fine. Lesson learned. stop being pussy and hammer the thing

 

[PA Guns & Ammo]

So I took my 45-70, that seemed to jam up a lot, to Van Tassel's gunsmith shop last Tuesday. I dropped it off and asked the gunsmith (Dennis) if he could fix it.

He immediately told me, "if it needs parts, you're basically SOL, there aren't any parts to be had"

So I said, "when you get around to it, do what you can, I love the gun but, IDK what to do if you can't fix it"

So Dennis called today and said "it's all fixed, the problem with your gun IS YOU!!!! I was like "what?"

He said "stop babying this thing, get angry at it, and rack it like you mean it. I suspect you're racking the lever like you want to catch the shells. stop doing that and pump the lever like you mean it" I ran 3 rounds through with no problem, and you owe me $15"

I said , ok then. I went there and Dennis wasn't there but Mary was, and a very nice young lady at the counter. I asked if they knew dsdmmat, ( I used his real name) and of course, Mary knew who I was talking about. And she asked how I knew him. I said "he's a moderator of NYgun forum, I have been posting for years, but only, physically met a few people from the forum." She smiled and said he should be coming back for Memorial Day"

So big guy, DSDMMAT, the Van Tassel's are looking forward to seeing you. and I told Mary and the nice lady behind the counter that "Im now going to go back to the cabin, put on my big boy panties and make this gun work" they both seem to get a chuckle out of that.

and guess what, Dennis was right. slam that lever hard, and the gun works just fine. Lesson learned. stop being pussy and hammer the thing

You should not have to "get angry with it" to make it work properly. I have fixed quite of few of these Marlin's with your issue. The ones I fixed were Remlin's, not the older JM stamped ones. Was yours made by Remington?

 

[Bustedknees]

I haven't shot the one I bought myself for Xmas yet. But the problem I'm already seeing is I can not find ammo under $50 a f#$kin dollars a box.

 

[dsdmmat]

When I was having feed issues with my Henry 357 it was because I was short stroking it. Sometimes it takes just getting use to how to cycle the rifle properly to get them to sing.

 

[turbobike]

When I was having feed issues with my Henry 357 it was because I was short stroking it. Sometimes it takes just getting use to how to cycle the rifle properly to get them to sing.

Henry has an updated Lifter-arm assy for the 357, call them and give them your serial # and they'll send it out..drops right in and made my Henry smoother and no need to jam-the-lever-like-you-hate-it.

 

[Jmac00]

You should not have to "get angry with it" to make it work properly. I have fixed quite of few of these Marlin's with your issue. The ones I fixed were Remlin's, not the older JM stamped ones. Was yours made by Remington?

yes, this is a Remlin. Im probably going to take it apart and start "sanding/filing" the rough parts on the lever and elevator ( or whatever the thing is called that feeds the next round into battery and see if I can't smooth it out a little

I have a 336 *JM* stamped 30-30, It is literally my all time favorite firearm, and it is buttery smooth.

 

[Mk44]

I remember when you brought that 1895 Remlin (dark series. you put a m-lok style handguard on it?). I recall you had issues with chambering a round right out of the box.
imo, you shouldn't have to "get angry with it" to make it work. Poor Remlin build quality is the problem.
Many say Remlin's were a hit or miss. Some got a good one and others got a piece of junk.

I had an 1895 Remlin. I didn't need to muscle the lever to chamber a round. nor did I have any cycling / jamming issues.
(imo, my Jm's are a better build quality. The new Ruger Marlins are very good too.)

 

[PA Guns & Ammo]

yes, this is a Remlin. Im probably going to take it apart and start "sanding/filing" the rough parts on the lever and elevator ( or whatever the thing is called that feeds the next round into battery and see if I can't smooth it out a little

I have a 336 *JM* stamped 30-30, It is literally my all time favorite firearm, and it is buttery smooth.

Where the mag tube goes into the receiver, polish the bore of that and take a small dremel and make a small bevel where the round comes out of the receiver and into the lifter. They have sharp edges and catch the soft brass and cause the issue you are having. That is why you have to "get angry with it" for it to work.

 

[Jmac00]

Where the mag tube goes into the receiver, polish the bore of that and take a small dremel and make a small bevel where the round comes out of the receiver and into the lifter. They have sharp edges and catch the soft brass and cause the issue you are having. That is why you have to "get angry with it" for it to work.

well, that will give me something to do tomorrow, Thanx for the tip. If I got a problem or a question, I'll give you a shout, Thanx again

 

[FP1201]

So I took my 45-70, that seemed to jam up a lot, to Van Tassel's gunsmith shop last Tuesday. I dropped it off and asked the gunsmith (Dennis) if he could fix it.

He immediately told me, "if it needs parts, you're basically SOL, there aren't any parts to be had"

So I said, "when you get around to it, do what you can, I love the gun but, IDK what to do if you can't fix it"

So Dennis called today and said "it's all fixed, the problem with your gun IS YOU!!!! I was like "what?"

He said "stop babying this thing, get angry at it, and rack it like you mean it. I suspect you're racking the lever like you want to catch the shells. stop doing that and pump the lever like you mean it" I ran 3 rounds through with no problem, and you owe me $15"

I said , ok then. I went there and Dennis wasn't there but Mary was, and a very nice young lady at the counter. I asked if they knew dsdmmat, ( I used his real name) and of course, Mary knew who I was talking about. And she asked how I knew him. I said "he's a moderator of NYgun forum, I have been posting for years, but only, physically met a few people from the forum." She smiled and said he should be coming back for Memorial Day"

So big guy, DSDMMAT, the Van Tassel's are looking forward to seeing you. and I told Mary and the nice lady behind the counter that "Im now going to go back to the cabin, put on my big boy panties and make this gun work" they both seem to get a chuckle out of that.

and guess what, Dennis was right. slam that lever hard, and the gun works just fine. Lesson learned. stop being pussy and hammer the thing

I've known Dennis & Mary for ~35 years and in all that time I've never know Dennis not to be direct to the point, or wrong about something gun related.
Jen works the Counter, and she's got her shit wired tight.
I've been doing Gun Shows with Mary for about 20 years now.
They have a very successful business and know more customers than most would ever believe.
As for the Marlin 1895: Yea, I've got one too, and when you're firm and positive with the action operation it works like a perfectly designed machine.
Anything made under the Freedom Group umbrella (Remington, Marlin, H&R/NEA, etc.) is supported any longer by current iterations of those companies. If it wasn't made by "Rem Arms" they won't sell parts or service anything made by Remington.
Marlin is owned by Ruger and AFAIK they too have disavowed anything previously made under the Marlin name.

 

[FP1201]

I haven't shot the one I bought myself for Xmas yet. But the problem I'm already seeing is I can not find ammo under $50 a f#$kin dollars a box.

Reloading is the only way to go, even that has gotten quite pricey... I stocked pretty heavy several years ago.

 

[Jmac00]

I've known Dennis & Mary for ~35 years and in all that time I've never know Dennis not to be direct to the point, or wrong about something gun related.
Jen works the Counter, and she's got her shit wired tight.
I've been doing Gun Shows with Mary for about 20 years now.
They have a very successful business and know more customers than most would ever believe.
As for the Marlin 1895: Yea, I've got one too, and when you're firm and positive with the action operation it works like a perfectly designed machine.
Anything made under the Freedom Group umbrella (Remington, Marlin, H&R/NEA, etc.) is supported any longer by current iterations of those companies. If it wasn't made by "Rem Arms" they won't sell parts or service anything made by Remington.
Marlin is owned by Ruger and AFAIK they too have disavowed anything previously made under the Marlin name.

I love Jen, she is straight forward, and tells it like it is.

 

[SomeSoldier]

Lesson learned. stop being pussy and hammer the thing

That's what she said.

 

[northny]

Where the mag tube goes into the receiver, polish the bore of that and take a small dremel and make a small bevel where the round comes out of the receiver and into the lifter. They have sharp edges and catch the soft brass and cause the issue you are having. That is why you have to "get angry with it" for it to work.

I have a JP marked 1895 in 45-70 that I bought new in 2004. The action was a bear to work, and it wanted to hang up loading a shell from magazine.

Three major things needed to get it functioning well.

#1. The rifle came with a factory supplied hammer extension designed to be used with a scope. Even though I had mounted a Williams peep sight on it I mounted the hammer extension as it made manipulation of the hammer easier with gloves on. If you look at the bottom of the bolt there is a bump that rides over the hammer when you work the action. This bump was also riding over the hammer extension causing additional resistance as the hammer extension was serrated even underneath the bolt. I removed the serrations underneath the bolt and then removed more material from the extension so the bolt did not ride on hammer extension ( the bolt now only rode on the hammer as it was intended)

2. I don’t know who to credit with this, but I was either told or read that you can smooth out the action by cycling it a few hundred times BUT IT ONLY WORKS if you are cycling cartridges from the magazine. I went 500 cycles and it made a great improvement.

3. As PA guns and ammo posted above, this is the third area. In cycling first purple snap caps then brass dummy rounds through the action it was immediately clear the rounds were being “shaved” along the way. The plastic snap caps had stripes shaved along their length where color was gone. Not as obvious on brass cases but it was there, not that I had noticed it before.

good luck

 

[Criticalt]

I tend to do this with my Henry rifles.
They dont have any issues with pussy pumping but people do make fun of me.