SCOTUS - Christian Web Designer CANNOT BE FORCED to design Gay Wedding Web Site
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Happiest Independence Day in a very, very long time.
I don’t mean to burst anyone’s bubble but some very worrisome information just came out about this case. It seems that there was in fact, no gay couple that requested a website designed for their wedding. Instead it was a straight man who doesn’t even live in CO, and had no idea his information was being used. He’s since gone public.
Regardless of your opinion on the outcome, I find it very troubling that this wasn’t caught sooner. Surely the Supreme Court should be doing the bare minimum of research?
Article below for any who care to read it;
newrepublic.com
Regardless of your opinion on the outcome, I find it very troubling that this wasn’t caught sooner. Surely the Supreme Court should be doing the bare minimum of research?
Article below for any who care to read it;
The Mysterious Case of the Fake Gay Marriage Website, the Real Straight Man, and the Supreme Court
In filings in the 303 Creative v. Elenis case is a supposed request for a gay wedding website—but the man named in the request says he never filed it.
newrepublic.com
GreggWNY
.177 BB
I agree that all business should be free to decide who and who they won't do business with. The only aspect I would like to know more is does this give the right to business to refuse service to Blacks, Catholics, Native Americans, Jews, etc? I would not be comfortable with that personally. I do think any business that turns down business is probably foolish. Everyone's money is green. I accept anyone's money including liberals although I don't see many of those in my archery shop where there is a sign posted on the door that concealed weapons are very welcome in my shop. lol
exactly this! couldn’t agree with you more.
I haven't read this case so my opinion may be way out of line but it's from a exercise religious freedom angle. It's not targeting any group, race, ethnicity but it's allowing that one person to follow their religion as they see fit. Man and woman= marriage.
It's not to punish homosexuals but it's to not coerce the website developer into doing something that's against their religious beliefs.l
The case would have been way spicier if it was a devout Muslim not wanting to make gay websites.
GreggWNY
.177 BB
That sounds reasonable. What about emergency room care in a life and death situation? Can a Dr. refuse to treat a man married to a man if he or she has religious beliefs that disagree? Or a bank for a home loan? Many questions to be answered.
gunpoliticsny
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FRANKIE
.308 Win
THE HAT TRICK!!!!
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
there is a big difference between lifesaving* care, and designing a website. its not even apples and oranges, more like grapes and watermelons. Banks already have very strict rules for loaning money, or even banking in general.
It doesn't matter who or why the law suite was brought. The only thing that matters is, does the business owner get to choose whom they do business with. THATS the bottom line.
Hell, I wouldn't do business in the city of Rochester because of safety concerns. I don't give a shit what color you are, what religion, who you sleep with or whether your a drug addict or dealer. I refuse to go into the city for my own safety. Now, don't get me wrong. When I first started out, all I did was inner city work. And I was NEVER, EVER concerned with the people I was working for. It's always the little scumbags running around the neighborhood that were the problem.
Businesses should do business with whomever they want. Not by demand from the government.
* the new Hypocritic oath, which states = DO NO HARM ~~~to my wallet
dwa12479
.338 Win Mag
Doctors take an oath as part of their employment. They've voluntarily waived that aspect for employment. A Jewish ER doc can't refuse care to a patient having a heart attack because there's a swastika tattooed to his forearm anymore than a Christian doc refuse care to a guy man. Same with the banks.
If you want a better parallel to this case...imagine someone walking into a halal deli and DEMANDING to be served a ham sandwich with a side of bacon. Or entering an Indian restaurant and DEMANDING to be served a cheeseburger. Those customers would rightly be refused service. Sorry folks, find someone else.
Uninformed and Compliant
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Urgent care facilities reject such patients every stinking day, for the simple reason of it being an "emergency".
repete
.338 Win Mag
A court, even SCOTUS doesn't investigate, they are provided information that is supposed to be facts and base a ruling on that.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
the Doc or Surgeon, Trauma Team .. are not a business .. there employees of the ER room / Hospital ..
or they can go start there own medical practice and be selective ..
spat
.950 JDJ
I think forcing anyone to do business against their will is slavery.
The sorts of discrimination you raised are stupid, and the free market will punish them sufficiently to discourage it from happening.
And if the free market *doesn't* for some form, then maybe it wasn't stupid...
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
The damn Chrysler dealer here should do warranty service on my Chevy Sonic
i'll have to check and see if they will even do a tune up on it .. LOL ..
i'll have to check and see if they will even do a tune up on it .. LOL ..
MikeM
.44 mag
The original case of the baker wasn't that he refused to do business. He stated anyone is welcome to buy my products. What he objected to was custom designing a cake for a wedding that went against his beliefs. Try going to a kosher bakery and ask for a cake swastikas shaped. Or a Muslim bakery and ask for a cake designed of Jewish stars. Its wasn't selling products he objected too but doing custom, creative work. Same with the web designer in this case.