Ammo background checks to begin mid-September?

[Bigfoot]

10.5 years late ... ... and was passed using the "Message of Necessity" (NY UNSAFE Act)

"The message of necessity procedure exists to allow our state government to respond quickly when extraordinary circumstances exist such that it is warranted to waive the required public airing of legislation before final passage. This is a mechanism to be used rarely and only in those urgent situations that require them."

It was so urgent that it took 10.5 years to implement... Doh!
And after all that time it will still most likely be a cluster fuck of epic proportions.

 

[Bigfoot]

It's for the cheeeeeelrin!

The gun grabbing politicians don't use that one much anymore, do they?
That was their main battle cry back in 2013 though... (NY UNSAFE Act)

Those fucking anti-freedom Constitution shredding assholes...

 

[Bigfoot]

FUKH

 

[Cooolone]

At the first exit in PA of the NYS Thruway / I-90 for the town of North East, PA, there are a number of abandoned buildings that were used for years as bullshit Tour Operators trying to sell tours and hotels to unsuspecting tourists heading to N. Falls, and to get their money before they actually got up there.

Any one of those buildings would be perfect to set up a shop selling ammo. For those in WNY, you could easily make it a day trip, - stop off and load up on ammo; maybe go by the Erie, PA Sheriff's office downtown and pick up your PA CCW quickly for $20.00 cash if you need one; and maybe go to Presque Isle State Park with the family to enjoy a day at the beach.

FUKH and your fellow ilk. I would bet that she would order the purple tie squad to spy on customers with NY tags. Easy enough to set up an inside drive through to prevent prying eyes, and to rebox any ammo before leaving and driving back to New Yorkistan.

Yes, it wouldn't work because like with Fireworks, PA will now to the commies and offer cooperation with NYSP and other acronym agencies for Surveillance of NY plates stopping at shops ... And although no such law exists, or could, they would make an issue somehow out of traveling for the purpose of purchasing ammunition outside state boundaries!

First off, I have enough ammo on hand to survive a zombie apocalypse, at least for a while, lmao. But more certainly enough to last until I leave this damned State for the last time...

So, FUCK New York and all it's hysterical liberal bullshit!

And for all those who want to, just make a nice Sunday afternoon lunch journey a few hours past the convenient border of our state in almost any direction (except NJ) and fill your trunk with all you want and return home happy knowing you've said FU to those it matters to ... And resisted giving the State what they want, control and taxes, lol.

Here's an idea, unfortunately though the state would benefit from. All shooters in the state should send their spent shell casings to the Governor!!! Lmao! Unfortunately they'd use the brass to try and pay down the State's Deficit!

 

[dwa12479]

Its no different than the provisions passed in unSAFE. The FBI told NY they can't use NICS for background checks for ammo. The state needed to create its own system. It hasn't. It won't. Ignore and carry on.

 

[Zerex]

Now, some Pa gunshops will not sell ammo to NYS residents.

Some.

Many private sellers will, ftf at gunshows.

Until NYS makes it a felony to bring ammo into the state without a bgc......................

I have noticed that if you get ammo shipped to an NYS FFL from an ammo dealer, he did not sell it....so no record kept or tax collected...
That may continue............or not.

It may be Limburger cheese that he received for you.

 

[Beerman]

Its no different than the provisions passed in unSAFE. The FBI told NY they can't use NICS for background checks for ammo. The state needed to create its own system. It hasn't. It won't. Ignore and carry on.

Yeah, if that’s how NYSP set it up. They’ve contracted with a private company to do the ammo background checks, not the NICS system. This is going to happen.

 

[Cavalry]

Here's an idea, unfortunately though the state would benefit from. All shooters in the state should send their spent shell casings to the Governor!!! Lmao! Unfortunately they'd use the brass to try and pay down the State's Deficit!

Come on now. You really believe this state cares about paying down a deficit or even would have enough common sense to scrap a valuable metal? Brass by nature has lead in it and will have traces of lead from the projectile on it. Someones brother in law would get a very healthy contract to dispose of the hazardous materials.

 

[Zerex]

If the NYSP have no access to the Fed NICS data, then only the NYS DCJS data base will be used by the contractor.....ez-- if you have a CCP, you must be legal....let the State criminal records be used.
When a cop makes a record check, he access some sort of state data base, not Fed.

I suspect that a data base of CCP and AWB owners will be used too, and with only 43,000 aw's in this state,,registered and only 1 millioon CCP's, the check will be fast.

Warrants are kept on file by the State's Data Base.

Ammo purchase records will be used, however, by 80%, to see who is stockpiling ammo and you get a red flag.

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[Saltwater60]

I have not and will not purchase any ammo that requires a background check until I’m in dire need and other surrounding states do the same. I guess my timeline for purchasing my second sig 365xl has been moved up to very soon. I want to avoid all this BS and when my son applies for his permit that’s the pistol he wants. I guess I’d better buy it for him now rather than a bit later. He will be 20 soon and can start the process for his permit soon as well. All my pistols will go on his permit so it’s time.

 

[Bigfoot]

I have always gotten the sense that FUKH has the need to prove something. I don't know if it's that she has little man woman syndrome. Or that she has a need to prove to the elite Democrats that she can be more Democrat tyrannical than Cuomo. Or something else.

Some years ago many of us here (and on the previous forum "NYG" at the time) said that we could actually get worse than Cuomo. Unfortunately, we were correct.

I could be wrong about this but I have noted in years past that I don't think that Cuomo gives a shit about the 2A one way or another. The 2A and some other things were 100% political to him nothing more nothing less. Cuomo was a political animal through and through.

It seems that Hochul has become a true believer, with something to prove. That crazy woman wanted to establish what essentially were "covid camps" with no due process involved until a judge ruled that it is unconstitutional. But I wonder what really stopped her from implementing the covid camps. As she has already shown that she will disregard a court's decision if it doesn't fit in with her agenda as she is a lawless Governor.

The ammo background check will do nothing to stop or even slow down violent crime.
That would take revoking cashless bail/bail reform and getting serious about sending a message to the criminals that New York is now a law and order state.
But you all already know that. I'm just saying.

 

[Bigfoot]

I can remember as a boy in the mid-1970s my brothers and I riding our bicycles to the hardware store to buy ammo, no questions asked. And there was no crime spree by little kids, a lot of paper and empty cans got holes put in them though. Some game animals too.

This is no longer the great country that I grew up in.

 

[Bigfoot]

I moved here to New York from South Carolina...

Just call me "Wrong Way Ronnie"

 

[ManualF150]

I moved here to New York from South Carolina...

Just call me "Wrong Way Ronnie"

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[thisIslandEarth]

I can remember as a boy in the mid-1970s my brothers and I riding our bicycles to the hardware store to buy ammo, no questions asked. And there was no crime spree by little kids, a lot of paper and empty cans got holes put in them though. Some game animals too.

This is no longer the great country that I grew up in.

Hell - during hunting season guys would put their shotguns and rifle on the attached gun rack in the back of their trucks and drive to High School with them. No one ran into the school and started a shooting spree. And no one thought it was any concern.
When I worked at Kodak, they used to have a rifle range in the employee recreation building. Guys would bring firearms to work so that they could shoot a few rounds at lunchtime.
Yeah, it's NOT the same country.

 

[Keyzard]

Oh look sportsman’s warehouse is but a short drive from wny. Hmm how interesting.

And there is a Sportsman's Outlet in Bradford.

 

[PA Guns & Ammo]

Hochul has been great for my business. All she did is drive more people to me. That dummy.

 

[ManualF150]

Hell - during hunting season guys would put their shotguns and rifle on the attached gun rack in the back of their trucks and drive to High School with them. No one ran into the school and started a shooting spree. And no one thought it was any concern.
When I worked at Kodak, they used to have a rifle range in the employee recreation building. Guys would bring firearms to work so that they could shoot a few rounds at lunchtime.
Yeah, it's NOT the same country.

There is a metal business I know of that has an indoor shooting range for their employees...

 

[thughes]

First rule of Reload Club: Don't talk about Reload Club.

 

[Rocpo]

First rule of Reload Club: Don't talk about Reload Club.

HA! This place will give up whatever workarounds to Herr Hockul's Henchmen.
See: Targetsportsusa thread.

 

[Acer-m14]

It's for the cheeeeeelrin!

BS .. no its not .. NYS is Open for Abortions ..

they can not play the kiddy card anymore ..

 

[Acer-m14]

i'm done with hunting .. let the deer have full run on NYS roads ..

i just wish the deer could breed like wild pigs / rabbits

 

[Bigfoot]

i'm done with hunting .. let the deer have full run on NYS roads ..

i just wish the deer could breed like wild pigs / rabbits

Dude here in western Genesee County the deer move in big herds at certain times of the year.
When I first moved here in 1989 that was not the case.

Fuck, I kill a shit ton of deer both in the bow season and gun season. It's not that I am a great skillful hunter or anything, there are just so many deer around here that if one spends enough time in the stand one can't help but to have a successful deer season.

A lot of illegal deer are harvested around here and that is probably a good thing. There are so many of them on (crossing) the roads it's crazy. An owner of a collision shop told me that will not change until the auto insurance companies start crying bloody murder to Albany to ease up on the deer hunting regulations.

There is a deer run or should I say a 'Thruway - Expressway - interstate 390" going between Attica and Darien. And both of my hunting grounds are right in the middle of that.
Woo Hoo! I do good enough every season that every year I make it a point to give one of my kills butchered and packaged to a poorish family down the road from me.

Obviously, that brings a high coyote population with that. That works for me too as there isn't anything much better than shooting and killing those fucking fucks. I just don't hunt coyotes, I consider it a war, I fucking massacre them with no remorse ever since one got a hold of one of my outdoor cats 19 years ago... It's been game on ever since then.

And I'm way off topic again, dang...

 

[dsdmmat]

At the first exit in PA of the NYS Thruway / I-90 for the town of North East, PA, there are a number of abandoned buildings that were used for years as bullshit Tour Operators trying to sell tours and hotels to unsuspecting tourists heading to N. Falls, and to get their money before they actually got up there.

Any one of those buildings would be perfect to set up a shop selling ammo. For those in WNY, you could easily make it a day trip, - stop off and load up on ammo; maybe go by the Erie, PA Sheriff's office downtown and pick up your PA CCW quickly for $20.00 cash if you need one; and maybe go to Presque Isle State Park with the family to enjoy a day at the beach.

FUKH and your fellow ilk. I would bet that she would order the purple tie squad to spy on customers with NY tags. Easy enough to set up an inside drive through to prevent prying eyes, and to rebox any ammo before leaving and driving back to New Yorkistan.

Then all is needed is a PA state law that makes surveillance of this facilities and their patrons by NY Law Enforcement agents or their contractors (snitches) a felony with a minimum sentence of 20 years.

 

[Jmac00]

Ammunition Registration

gunsafety.ny.gov

​

Is there any background check now required for purchasers of ammunition?​

Not yet. The law provides that background check requirements imposed on all retail sellers of ammunition are scheduled to take effect on September 13, 2023.

It’s supposed to happen, and there have been positions created, hired and staffed by the NYSP for this purpose. Looks like it’s gonna happen this time. I have an email out to our Senator for clarification. I’ll post back his (staffer’s) canned response as soon as I get it. Not too hopeful.

BWHAHAHAHAHAHA SUX TO BE A NEW YORKER

 

[Grimscale]

Hochul has been great for my business. All she did is drive more people to me. That dummy.

Three hours away, but if you'll sell to NY'ers it'll be worth the trip.

And there is a Sportsman's Outlet in Bradford.

2.5 hours away.

I do like driving down to PA. The scenery is so pretty.


too bad the gun store in Harrisburg didn't have any ammo when I was there.

 

[Jmac00]

to bad Dillon Precision isn't publicly traded. I would buy as much of that stock as I could afford, LOL

 

[Deplorable Me]

Now, some Pa gunshops will not sell ammo to NYS residents.

Some.

Many private sellers will, ftf at gunshows.

Until NYS makes it a felony to bring ammo into the state without a bgc......................

I have noticed that if you get ammo shipped to an NYS FFL from an ammo dealer, he did not sell it....so no record kept or tax collected...
That may continue............or not.

It may be Limburger cheese that he received for you.

I've never been denied in PA or out of state. PA, OH, MI, NC, WV, KY. Gray hair and speaking intelligible English is my ID for age in those states. Once upon a time that was the standard in NY. If you have ammo shipped in from out of state, thanks to NY laws, most out of state ammo shippers collect NY sales tax and hopefully don't send them a penny.

 

[Jmac00]

I've never been denied in PA or out of state. PA, OH, MI, NC, WV, KY. Gray hair and speaking intelligible English is my ID for age in those states. Once upon a time that was the standard in NY. If you have ammo shipped in from out of state, thanks to NY laws, most out of state ammo shippers collect NY sales tax and hopefully don't send them a penny.

you ( as a NY'r ) can't buy ammo in Connecticut, I tried to buy some 410 ammo, and my BIL had to buy it for me, LOL

 

[VietnamEraVet]

I still say the Senecas need to start selling it at their location in downtown Buffalo. After all, some of their potentially best customers have never left the east side in their lives, and stealing a Kia or Hyundai to drive to PA is too risky to drive that far when you are not even old enough to have ever had a drivers license…Just kidding, LOL!!!