Israeli war. Palestine war. Middle East war. Not sure what they will call it. Wanted to do a poll in regards to this newest and updated conflict.

[GOPerfect]

Just a simple poll. Not to take away from the engaging conversation/discussion already being had.

I am curious how all feel about this.

I will start by saying that I am not on the side of either group of people. I know what I would like to see though.

 

[kev74]

I voted Israel.

Not a huge fan, but they're not trying to chop my head off.

So, if one side is to win, Israel it is.

 

[thisIslandEarth]

Let's just hope it's not soon to be called WW III. It likely, will be the last for quite awhile. :-(

 

[ManualF150]

I voted for:

No love for either side​

Just watching it unfold.​

Why?

Because I learned from Ukraine and other proxy wars.

We need not get involved, close our fucking borders, and actually develop peaceful relations with other large countries if we want to survive. The USA has enough of it's own wars going on inside it's contiguous states.

 

[libertysnake]

I think the limit of our involvement should be that we just deter outside conflicts. The message we should send is: If the rest of the mid-east piles on, we pile on. Otherwise, we're hands off outside of military aid.

I think that's a fair approach.

 

[FrankenCub]

Had to go..
Israel
Just watching it unfold

I have no problems with Israel or Jews in general. Just people like me with a different belief system. However, I know Israel has instigated shit with their neighbors in the past, so I'd rather the US stay the fuck out of it. We have too many problems at home that need to be dealt with.
On the other hand, I've been watching every video I could find that the sub human filth have uploaded. All I feel is disgust and anger! If Israel turned the Gaza strip into a glass parking lot I'd crack open a new bouron for a toast!
Damn muzzies don't deserve to breath the same air we do. The only people I hold hatred for! Fuck um!

 

[Deplorable Me]

A lot of innocent unarmed people were murdered that had nothing to do with the government or religious pissing contest in the region. Soft targets. I have no tolerance for people or the ideology that does that. Live and let live or I will poke your eyes out. I hate extreme ignorance.

 

[TEOTWAWKI inc.]

I think the limit of our involvement should be that we just deter outside conflicts. The message we should send is: If the rest of the mid-east piles on, we pile on. Otherwise, we're hands off outside of military aid.

I think that's a fair approach.

Why should we even give them military aid?

I'm sick of paying for everybody's problems.

https://carnegieendowment.org/2021/05/12/bringing-assistance-to-israel-in-line-with-rights-and-u.s.-laws-pub-84503

$3.3B annually, over the last how many years(?), should have been more than enough to have crushed these fuckers a long time ago. But then the "aid" would stop, so it makes more sense to keep everybody wound up tight.

If it came down to it, I would obviously support Israel over (currently) any other country on earth, but only because the potential threat to the U.S. is great enough that we don't have any other choice.

You can't buy peace. Just destroy these fucking people already. If not, I want my money back.

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

Can these two finally kick the shit out of one or the other and be done with it already.

 

[Mosinitis]

I voted for Israel, although I am very critical of Israel's politics.

 

[PutnamCharlie]

Don't have a dog in this fight but My vote was Israel because of people like this. Yes in NY city not that far from home. Facebook took the video down when I tried to repost it. This is what he was saying.

In New York City, a Muslim man made a threat to all non-believers.
"We're done being tortured and hurt and judged. This is the correct religion. This is the religion that all of humanity needs to be — Islam."
"We will not stop until it enters every home. So I want you to repeat after me. I want to hear it in every single district. It should tremble Brooklyn should hear it. The Bronx should hear it. Queens should hear it. Say it — There is no God worthy of worship except Allah. The God of Jesus, the God of Moses, the God of Abraham, and the God of the last and final prophet, Muhammed..."

 

[Bozo]

No love for either of them, with one very big caveat - the deliberate slaughter of civilians should be met with overwhelming force. Hamas should be wiped from the planet.

The scum have killed and kidnapped American citizens. It's time to take the gloves off.

 

[ManualF150]

No love for either of them, with one very big caveat - the deliberate slaughter of civilians should be met with overwhelming force. Hamas should be wiped from the planet.

The scum have killed and kidnapped American citizens. It's time to take the gloves off.

How about all of the innocent American children that have died because of gun laws?

I'd say it's time to take the gloves off here in America.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I voted Israel for reasons you and I spoke about earlier today. Like I said earlier, when people say to me, "Why do you love guns so much" I reply to them it isn't that I love guns it's that I love the freedom to defend myself and family the way I see fit and a gun is one of the things I choose to use. It isn't a love for Israel, it is for understanding they have the right to exist and just want to be left alone yet there are those that want their destruction for just being who they are. Sound familiar folks?

 

[GOPerfect]

I voted Israel for reasons you and I spoke about earlier today. Like I said earlier, when people say to me, "Why do you love guns so much" I reply to them it isn't that I love guns it's that I love the freedom to defend myself and family the way I see fit and a gun is one of the things I choose to use. It isn't a love for Israel, it is for understanding they have the right to exist and just want to be left alone yet there are those that want their destruction for just being who they are. Sound familiar folks?

Quoted for more to see.

 

[Michael]

I vote Israel. I have a multitude of reasons being both political and faith based. I also cannot condone the wholesale slaughter of innocents.

Don't have a dog in this fight but My vote was Israel because of people like this. Yes in NY city not that far from home. Facebook took the video down when I tried to repost it. This is what he was saying.

In New York City, a Muslim man made a threat to all non-believers.
"We're done being tortured and hurt and judged. This is the correct religion. This is the religion that all of humanity needs to be — Islam."
"We will not stop until it enters every home. So I want you to repeat after me. I want to hear it in every single district. It should tremble Brooklyn should hear it. The Bronx should hear it. Queens should hear it. Say it — There is no God worthy of worship except Allah. The God of Jesus, the God of Moses, the God of Abraham, and the God of the last and final prophet, Muhammed..."

The irony in his little speech is absolutely breathtaking.

The scum have killed and kidnapped American citizens. It's time to take the gloves off.

This right there. The response by the US whenever American lives are taken has been piss poor at best.

 

[FrankenCub]

I am rooting for Iran and Palestine to erase Israel and wack the pi$$ out of the USA so we stop supporting Zionism.

Have a nice day

So you voted for Obama and Biden. You'll be popular here

 

[Dr. Evil]

I am rooting for Iran and Palestine to erase Israel and wack the pi$$ out of the USA so we stop supporting Zionism.

Have a nice day

Diesel, is that you?

 

[FrankenCub]

Why would you assume that? Obama and Biden work for AIPAC through the Democrat party just like DeSantis and Trump do for the Republicans.

If you are against the American Deep State then you would be foolish to support Israel. Besides, the beef with Iran is that we, the USA, backed the Shah who was a brutal dictator because of the Cold War. Once the USSR fell, it was just that they overthrew the bastard, just like we revolted from England.

I guess if you can only think in very simple immediate terms based on propaganda fed to you then I understand your POV but if you can turn off the television and consider the side's opinion in an honest way you would probably reach the same conclusion.

When you support people who act worse than animals, just as Obama and Biden do, that tells me all I need to know. I don't watch the news so don't use that excuse. I see straight from the scum of the earth how they treat people. No group is so disgusting as Muslims when it's in regards to human life.
Your support of Hamas is support of raping and killing civilians, hacking them to pieces showing joy doing it. Shows support of throwing gays from roof tops or burning them in cages.
Don't say it's all propaganda, I've seen it from the dirty Muslims themselves.
Funny thing, the internet, if you know where to go you get news from the source.

Would you be ok with Americans behaving like that?

 

[Dr. Evil]

 

[Uninformed and Compliant]

@GOPerfect you missed the correct option.

 

[Phazer]

LOL Israel stole the goat fucker's land.
Israelis murder, rape and kidnap multiple times more goat fuckers than verso.
Israelis won't negotiate with the legit Palestinian government.
I've been spit upon by Israelis (I'm a White Christian American) but never by any goat fuckers.
A large percentage of those goat fuckers are Christians, like Jesus, closest thing possible.
Israel has killed Americans and done a false flag with the USS Liberty.
Israel has multiple spies working against us.
I'll leave it to the conspiracy theorists whether Israel funded ISIS, Hamas, PLO and did 9-11 as a false flag but the evidence is clearly there.
Israel sponsors mass migration of those Arab fighting age males to Europe and America.
Israeli pharmaceuticals make the tranny drugs.
And frankly dropping a few pedo's off rooftops is a big plus to me.

And I like how they treat their women. Keep them off the road and off Only Fans (owned by you know which tribe).

I may be a new guy but it doesn't seem like a New York gun forum so much as it's a suburban NYC forum for dual citizens LOL.

A lot of you are probably sending your 10/22s to the IDF to kneecap children.

You didn't have enough allowance money left to afford your psych meds this month?

 

[HEX]

Diesel, is that you?

Ha.. It wasn't, but it was someone who has been banned here under even more alternate usernames than he. I knew it on approval, but I let him through intentionally to.. lets just say gather more data.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Ha.. It wasn't, but it was someone who has been banned here under even more alternate usernames than he. I knew it on approval, but I let him through intentionally to.. lets just say gather more data. My own personal curiosity. Gone again though.

I take it this upstanding White Christian is no longer with us?

 

[HEX]

I take it this upstanding White Christian is no longer with us?

Yeah, I had no intention of letting him stay around. I don't want to discuss bans, because it's kind of unspoken policy not to, but.. well, in some of his past incarnations he's done some things that made me very curious, and I let him though just to see what he would do first. An experiment you might say. I know exactly who he is and what he does, but I have questions of what else he might be. Eh, lets just leave it at that.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Yeah, I had no intention of letting him stay around. I don't want to discuss bans, because it's kind of unspoken policy not to, but.. well, in some of his past incarnations he's done some things that made me very curious, and I let him though just to see what he would do first. An experiment you might say. I know exactly who he is and what he does, but I have questions of what else he might be. Eh, lets just leave it at that.

No need to get into the specifics. Doesn't take away from the warm fuzzy feeling that I had if you don't.

 

[Uninformed and Compliant]

I take it this upstanding White Christian is no longer with us?

Wait, you mean his persona wasn't real? I'm stunned. Stunned!

 

[Uninformed and Compliant]

No need to get into the specifics. Doesn't take away from the warm fuzzy feeling that I had if you don't.

I'm very disappointed that I didn't get to say that I find his opinions fascinating and I'd like to subscribe to his newsletter, lol.

I bet 10 internetz that half of his drivel came from a customized instance of GPT-4.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I'm very disappointed that I didn't get to say that I find his opinions fascinating and I'd like to subscribe to his newsletter, lol.

I bet 10 internetz that half of his drivel came from a customized instance of GPT-4.

More like GTA-4.

 

[GOPerfect]

At this point just watching it unfold, but I do look at this from a few aspects, so also Israel.

In terms of sheer humanity of the situation, the savagery that has been committed against civilians, Israel.

Under a more traditional paradigm, Israel.

But since I realize that I live in a world in which a bunch of wealthy Nazi elites want to strip me of all rights and possessions and force me to eat bugs, I can't discount the possibility that both Israel and Palestine are willing pawns in a global chess game. I find it harder to believe that much of what we see is organic and wholly unscripted.

Once upon a time I thought Kuwait was an innocent country, victim to the savage bully Iraq and the US was the savior.
Then I learned Kuwait was a thief, Iraq was the victim and the US was the instigator.

So I reserve final judgement at the moment.

Always so well thought out. Thank you.